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Elenin=Planet X, Nebiru (Mathematical proof)

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posted on Mar, 22 2011 @ 07:33 PM
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Hi One:


Originally posted by NyxOneYou do realise Terral has been proven wrong and has subsequently fled in shame because nothing happened on either the 4th or the 15th, yes?

Perhaps that one-liner shameful excuse for Planet X content would be received better from a guy that can actually spell realize. The Event Timeline says earth change events would increase starting March 4, 2011 and the earth change events increased starting March 4, 2011. The March 15, 2011 Sun/Earth/ELEnin prediction was off by 4 days. WoW! That is shameful. At least someone had enough data to make a prediction. Earth axis did shift 4 inches on March 11, 2011 exactly like Earth axis shifted last year on Feb. 27, 2010 with that Sun/Earth/ELEnin alignment. Unfortunately this is more evidence that my ELEnin Comet = brown dwarf star thesis is correct, even though I present this information in hope that someone here can prove everything wrong. Go ahead and make my day.

www.youtube.com...

Everyone should be subscribed to the Dutchsinse Youtube channel for his shameful updates. He is showing increased seismic activity for the whole world, even if only 20 percent of the USGS quakes are shown. This object is 180 million miles away and getting closer by 2+ million miles every day. If and when all the volcanoes on earth start going off, then you will know the reason why ...

PXGuy

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posted on Mar, 22 2011 @ 07:51 PM
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Hi Stereo:


Originally posted by stereologistElenin is a comet. It has a small mass. It won't come close to the Earth.

If Leonid ELEnin (code) discovered this supposed comet on December 10, 2010 using a remote 18-inch telescope at more than 4 AU (program), then please explain why amateur astronomers (astrolpatriot) cannot see the thing today at just 2 AU, or 180 million miles away, using larger telescopes that can see Pluto?

www.youtube.com...

Then please explain the evidence for three major earthquakes taking place at Sun/Earth/Elenin alignments!

www.youtube.com...

I realize these two videos were presented on the previous page, but please explain the earth change events that are escalating with the approach of this ELEnin object? I would love to see any kind of explanation other than an approaching brown dwarf star that is racing towards an orbit around our Sun. Does anybody here have a counter-proposal argument or explanation for what is going on here? I am all ears ...

PXGuy



posted on Mar, 22 2011 @ 08:18 PM
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Hi.

Being with how things are explained, as I just read---

Can this angle, or approach, maybe I mean ascension/descension be achieved in this orbit, and during a time, it (big scary thing in the sky) comes between the Sun and the Earth in turn, blocking the sun from our view for like the three days the Mayan's said something about?

Then a new cycle of life begins? This just peels my face off.

I'm afraid to click any of your links.
But I wish you all all the best.



posted on Mar, 22 2011 @ 09:27 PM
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Hi Love:


Originally posted by loveguyCan this angle, or approach, maybe I mean ascension/descension be achieved in this orbit, and during a time, it (big scary thing in the sky) comes between the Sun and the Earth in turn, blocking the sun from our view for like the three days the Mayan's said something about?

The Mayan's do not know how long, because the magnetic north pole is repelled to tip Earth backwards, while the dwarf star passes by; like a spinning top knocked out of kilter. The Earth will bow away from the star and continue spinning, but the southern hemisphere is drawn near the Sun and the dwarf star to suffer the worst of the solar storms; while the northern hemisphere experiences one long night under the magneto dome created by the magnetosphere bent backwards like spaghetti. The geological pole shift starting around the second conjunction on Sept. 26 is the reaction of the dwarf star assuming polarity control of our planet in a process that has already started and has been ongoing since 2004. The birth pangs are becoming more pronounced from heating up of the Earth magma causing caverns from deep inside the earth to sing song on the surface.

Solar flares/storms will continue to become worse from gravitational interaction between the Sun and the dwarf star coming in for a single pass at Mercury orbit to begin the cycle all over again. Unfortunately for Earth and the people, the summer perigee orbit means our planet is on the wrong side of the Sun and the dwarf star passes 21 million miles away exiting the inner solar system and the benefit of any trailing debris. If this dwarf star came six months earlier or later, Earth would be 1.396 AU at our nearest point and the pole shift is eliminated from the equation. The Elites and their liars have known this thing was coming for a long time, which is why dwarf star perigee is 9/11/2011 exactly 10 years after the 9/11 Inside Job. The House of Rothschild and Rockefeller and their banster cartel pals murdered JFK and third conjunction is November 22, 2011, so these guys can rub our noses in it. I have five emails from Leonid ELEnin that look to be written by some kid. His comment was that he might do a real live reporter interview some day...

The dwarf star does not block the Sun and is not orbiting on the ecliptic plane to be directly between Sun and Earth, but the Sun and dwarf star are very large in mass compared to Earth as the small magnet in space getting pushed around by two giants. But hopefully my ELEnin = dwarf star hypothesis is wrong. I am hoping someone here has a better answer.


Originally posted by loveguyThen a new cycle of life begins? This just peels my face off. I'm afraid to click any of your links. But I wish you all all the best.


I laughed so hard the travel trailer shook. ;0) BTW, I have written at CF.com and BibleDebateForum.com for years. Most people with an opinion think we are heading for the end of the age, when in reality the Day of the Lord is about to begin. Link. Start at the third paragraph and I explain to Dr. Bill Deagle about what is about to happen. This Earth is still far from the end of the age. Elijah comes to restore all things (Matt. 17:10-11) as the prophet of Acts 3:22-23 including the Tabernacle of David/Adam (Acts 15:16-18) and the kingdom to Israel. The kingdom lasts for a very long time and then Satan's people begin to incarnate and the Messiah (David/Adam) is cut off (62nd week) and then the antichrist shows up to set up his abomination of desolation. That is how the Day of the Lord 'ends,' but the Day of the Lord must start before it can end the age still far in the future.

PXGuy
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posted on Mar, 22 2011 @ 09:56 PM
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What, more links!


I mean thanks!



posted on Mar, 22 2011 @ 10:01 PM
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Originally posted by CUin2013?
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I am thinking this had more to do with the sun than actually affecting Earth and our moon. We had 15 M class CME's and 2 X class CME's in the time frame mentioned - about 3 days prior to the Japan EQ. The corresponding magnetic storm likely was the cause of the Japan EQ, discounting anything from HAARP.


If it was the sun causing it, then we should have had a magnitude 8.9 or better earthquake on September 2nd, 1859:
en.wikipedia.org...

There was an earthquake in 1859, but it was 3 months after the CME and wasn't an 8.9
en.wikipedia.org...

We should have had them in late May of 2007, also as well as many other times: helios.gsfc.nasa.gov...



Elenin/whatever it is would have been much closer to the sun than Earth at this time.

It would have had to be between us and the sun, and if it was big enough to pull off a CME then it would have been big enough to pull our planet and the moon out of orbit.



posted on Mar, 22 2011 @ 11:24 PM
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Elenin/whatever it is would have been much closer to the sun than Earth at this time.
It would have had to be between us and the sun, and if it was big enough to pull off a CME then it would have been big enough to pull our planet and the moon out of orbit.


This big thing comes by every so often to steal planets from us, only this time maybe it's us? I don't like that thing, there is no light at the end of that tunnel. Look at (Mars and Venus)

Tell NASA I want data collected about the poles on both Mars and Venus! Are their needles dancing too, volcanoes and what-not? Maybe evidence can be collected from another ball on the billiard table, eh?



posted on Mar, 23 2011 @ 12:15 AM
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Originally posted by PlanetXGuy
Hi One:


Originally posted by NyxOneYou do realise Terral has been proven wrong and has subsequently fled in shame because nothing happened on either the 4th or the 15th, yes?

Perhaps that one-liner shameful excuse for Planet X content would be received better from a guy that can actually spell realize. The Event Timeline says earth change events would increase starting March 4, 2011 and the earth change events increased starting March 4, 2011. The March 15, 2011 Sun/Earth/ELEnin prediction was off by 4 days. WoW! That is shameful. At least someone had enough data to make a prediction. Earth axis did shift 4 inches on March 11, 2011 exactly like Earth axis shifted last year on Feb. 27, 2010 with that Sun/Earth/ELEnin alignment. Unfortunately this is more evidence that my ELEnin Comet = brown dwarf star thesis is correct, even though I present this information in hope that someone here can prove everything wrong. Go ahead and make my day.

www.youtube.com...

Everyone should be subscribed to the Dutchsinse Youtube channel for his shameful updates. He is showing increased seismic activity for the whole world, even if only 20 percent of the USGS quakes are shown. This object is 180 million miles away and getting closer by 2+ million miles every day. If and when all the volcanoes on earth start going off, then you will know the reason why ...

PXGuy

edit on 22-3-2011 by PlanetXGuy because: fix typo


Some dimwit doesn't know about British spelling conventions.



posted on Mar, 23 2011 @ 04:29 AM
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When you look at the original animation of the sighting of Elenin there are 3 objects observed moving 2 are larger & the third one is smaller & appears to be a "satellite" of the larger.
Now please correct me if I'm wrong but all I've heard is the discovery of ONE body & of course the usual debris trail & tail.
While I've never given great credence to conspiracy theories there are aspects of this with Elenin just doesn't add up & I believe this puts a whole new aspect as to, are official sources being upfront & honest in regard to one of these objects actually being Comet Elenin while deliberately ignoring the other objects & not mentioning them at all OR are these other objects seen on another obit further out but still visible within the same shots.
Anyone can see that there are 3 distinct objects & while the third is smaller they all must be of reasonable size to be seen with an 18" telescope back in December, size seems to be a 'pick a number' game, I've seen so many varying guesstimates, it does make one wonder what these objects actually are.
If we are in any danger I think most people would prefer to know however there may be no threat whatsoever which would be great but the way the Authorities have reacted to this by closing down official chat channels & either changing info or respinning it can only enforce any Conspiracy Theory that is out there.
Anyway, we'll find out eventually, in the meantime my very best to you all.



posted on Mar, 23 2011 @ 07:38 AM
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Originally posted by stereologist

The facts speak for themselves. The person in question was a fraud and complete liar. Just because you are unaware of the circumstances is meaningless.


I'm fully aware of the circs, being proved wrong does not make someone a total fraud and a complete liar, it just makes them wrong in this instance, words have meanings as you obviously know stereologist.



posted on Mar, 23 2011 @ 11:10 AM
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Hi Grasim:


Originally posted by GrasimWhen you look at the original animation of the sighting of Elenin there are 3 objects observed moving 2 are larger & the third one is smaller & appears to be a "satellite" of the larger.
Now please correct me if I'm wrong but all I've heard is the discovery of ONE body & of course the usual debris trail & tail.

You are talking about this pic here. The two trailing satellites show multiple images because of time-lapse photography, so why is the main object not also showing four images? Note that the direction is from our left to our right. Now open the NASA orbit diagram program (link) and back the time up to December 10, 2010. Note the Earth is above the Sun in the winter orbit and that the ELEnin objects are coming in from our left. Either these comet(s) images have been flipped, or this entire series of pictures is a complete hoax. Either way, there is no way these ELEnin photos are images of any singular comet and you can see that with your own eyes! Even if you back the NASA ELEnin program up to June 18, 2010, these objects are heading directly at our planet and would not give us the required angle to see these objects moving to the right from our earthbound perspective. The bottom line either way is that the Govt and Google and NASA and all the world govts are lying and this is what they are hiding.


Originally posted by GrasimWhile I've never given great credence to conspiracy theories there are aspects of this with Elenin just doesn't add up & I believe this puts a whole new aspect as to, are official sources being upfront & honest in regard to one of these objects actually being Comet Elenin while deliberately ignoring the other objects & not mentioning them at all OR are these other objects seen on another obit further out but still visible within the same shots.

The contradictions in the Official ELEnin Story are looking you right in the face, but people are blinded by Normalcy Bias and will wake up only when it is too late. Link. The simple truth is that NASA's ELEnin Comet is a psyop cover for an inbound dwarf star carrying multiple satellites towards the center of our solar system. Someone please use the evidence and debunk my hypothesis.


Originally posted by GrasimAnyone can see that there are 3 distinct objects & while the third is smaller they all must be of reasonable size to be seen with an 18" telescope back in December, size seems to be a 'pick a number' game, I've seen so many varying guesstimates, it does make one wonder what these objects actually are.

Everyone here with half a brain should realize that multiple objects with varying mass on an inbound course to orbit our Sun is no mere comet!

PXGuy



posted on Mar, 23 2011 @ 11:17 AM
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Hi Ny:


Originally posted by NyxOneSome dimwit doesn't know about British spelling conventions.

Actually I lived in London for some time in the early 1990's and know about car parks and dust bins and hovering and many variations between the languages. Thanks again for your wonderful insight into this topic. BTW, those BEFORE YOU REPLY notifications above have nothing to do with you. Just keep filling this topic up with your one-liner nonsense. ;0)

www.youtube.com...

This guy seems to be on the right track to identifying what is really coming to the center of our solar system and it ain't no comet ...

PXGuy



posted on Mar, 23 2011 @ 11:51 AM
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You are talking about this pic here. The two trailing satellites show multiple images because of time-lapse photography, so why is the main object not also showing four images?


It is not time lapse photography, it is a "stacked" image; four exposures are "sandwiched" together to bring out more detail. The "trailing satellites" are in fact stars. The comet is moving relative to them, that is why they have trails. The images were "stacked" with the comet in the center, that is why it does not show as a trail.


Note that the direction is from our left to our right.


How do we know that?


Now open the NASA orbit diagram program (link) and back the time up to December 10, 2010. Note the Earth is above the Sun in the winter orbit and that the ELEnin objects are coming in from our left. Either these comet(s) images have been flipped, or this entire series of pictures is a complete hoax.


The apparent daily motion of the comet seen from Earth would always appear to be from east to west, so "left" and "right" would depend on which way you are facing.


Even if you back the NASA ELEnin program up to June 18, 2010, these objects are heading directly at our planet and would not give us the required angle to see these objects moving to the right from our earthbound perspective.


Again, I'm not sure what you mean. The comet is moving in the counter-clockwise direction that most naturally occurring solar system objects. It's nightly position along the ecliptic will appear retrograde as it approaches.


The contradictions in the Official ELEnin Story are looking you right in the face, but people are blinded by Normalcy Bias and will wake up only when it is too late.


Actually, it's the contradictions in the "Planet X" story that are staring people in the face. Sometimes its a brown dwarf in the Oort cloud, sometimes its a passing solar system, sometimes it has twice the mass of Earth, sometimes its sneaking up on us from the south pole... do I need to go on?


The simple truth is that NASA's ELEnin Comet is a psyop cover for an inbound dwarf star carrying multiple satellites towards the center of our solar system. Someone please use the evidence and debunk my hypothesis.


The simple truth is you're the one that needs to find some evidence to prove your hypothesis. And no, acrostics and palindromes are not evidence.



posted on Mar, 23 2011 @ 12:13 PM
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Hi DJW:


Originally posted by DJW001...The simple truth is you're the one that needs to find some evidence to prove your hypothesis. And no, acrostics and palindromes are not evidence.

This sounds funny coming from a guy that just rambles aimlessly without a single link to evidentiary support of ANYTHING. Here are some facts:

25 Symptoms Post:

Earth is experiencing mass animal deaths all over the globe and super storms and magnetic pole migration that has been going on since 2004 and increasing in frequency and intensity. Volcanoes all over the planet are waking up with increases in earthquakes, rogue tides, earth wobble, severe winter weather, sea level strangeness, moon out of place, solar flares/storms and ocean conveyor disruptions. Greenland had sunrise two days early, because a large object with large mass appears to be bringing a huge gravity well to the center of our solar system. LUCUS (link) has concluded that all of these things and much more are caused by the approaching brown dwarf star. You can spend months going through his evidence that says basically the same thing I am showing you in my posts.

This evidence does not even begin to address the obvious connection between the Feb. 27, 2010 8.8 Chile Quake that shifted Earth axis 3 inches like the March 11, 2011 9.0 Japan Quake shifted Earth axis 4 inches and both events took place at Sun/Earth/ELEnin alignments!

www.youtube.com...

Go ahead and start debunking and trying to convince these readers that I have no evidence of anything and all of this is mere coincidence.

www.youtube.com...

Dutch is pointing out the fact that we are seeing increased seismic activity around the globe and in places that have not had activity since he started monitoring these things 15 years ago. I see a pattern here and this ELEnin object has something to do with what is happening.

PXGuy
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posted on Mar, 23 2011 @ 12:39 PM
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This sounds funny coming from a guy that just rambles aimlessly without a single link to evidentiary support of ANYTHING. Here are some facts:


Which part of my post required evidence? The explanation of image stacking? Certainly diurnal motion is common knowledge. As for Comet Elenin being Nibiru, that is quite impossible, as Nibiru must have arrived back in 2003. All the evidence was pointing to it back then, too.



posted on Mar, 23 2011 @ 03:06 PM
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Originally posted by PlanetXGuy
Hi DJW:


Originally posted by DJW001...The simple truth is you're the one that needs to find some evidence to prove your hypothesis. And no, acrostics and palindromes are not evidence.

This sounds funny coming from a guy that just rambles aimlessly without a single link to evidentiary support of ANYTHING. Here are some facts:

25 Symptoms Post:

Earth is experiencing mass animal deaths all over the globe and super storms and magnetic pole migration that has been going on since 2004 and increasing in frequency and intensity. Volcanoes all over the planet are waking up with increases in earthquakes, rogue tides, earth wobble, severe winter weather, sea level strangeness, moon out of place, solar flares/storms and ocean conveyor disruptions. Greenland had sunrise two days early, because a large object with large mass appears to be bringing a huge gravity well to the center of our solar system. LUCUS (link) has concluded that all of these things and much more are caused by the approaching brown dwarf star. You can spend months going through his evidence that says basically the same thing I am showing you in my posts.

This evidence does not even begin to address the obvious connection between the Feb. 27, 2010 8.8 Chile Quake that shifted Earth axis 3 inches like the March 11, 2011 9.0 Japan Quake shifted Earth axis 4 inches and both events took place at Sun/Earth/ELEnin alignments!

www.youtube.com...

Go ahead and start debunking and trying to convince these readers that I have no evidence of anything and all of this is mere coincidence.

www.youtube.com...

Dutch is pointing out the fact that we are seeing increased seismic activity around the globe and in places that have not had activity since he started monitoring these things 15 years ago. I see a pattern here and this ELEnin object has something to do with what is happening.

PXGuy
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Of course, conveniently ignoring the fact that comets do not cause disasters, or Halley, Hale Bopp, McNaught, Lexell and countless others would have #ed up our planet beyond repair, and that Elenin wasn't even discovered or anywhere near us when the quake in Chile happened.

But I forgot, you eschew logic for fantasy.



posted on Mar, 23 2011 @ 04:03 PM
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Hi Nyx:


Originally posted by NyxOneOf course, conveniently ignoring the fact that comets do not cause disasters, or Halley, Hale Bopp, McNaught, Lexell and countless others would have #ed up our planet beyond repair ...

Please forgive if I separate your run-on statement to address your second point separately. The point is that this ELEnin object IS NO MERE COMET. The thesis says that the NASA ELEnin Comet is a Psyop cover that is hiding a dark star that is entering our inner solar system for an orbit around the Sun using this orbit/flight path (link). This thing is getting closer by about 2 million miles every day and the earth change symptoms are increasing. Check to see if the 3/11/2011, 2/27/2010 and 9/4/2010 major earthquake events take place at Sun/Earth/ELEnin alignments, because THEY DO. Then we place your thesis in the equation that says, 'comets do not cause disasters,' which I assume includes earthquakes and volcanoes and tidal waves. Then rather than using real science and Jet Propulsion Laboratory data, we are supposed to ignore that and believe these are mere coincidences.


Originally posted by NyxOne... and that Elenin wasn't even discovered or anywhere near us when the quake in Chile happened. But I forgot, you eschew logic for fantasy.

Please explain the connection between the discovery of this supposed comet on Dec. 10, 2010 and how that affects the Sun/Earth/ELEnin alignment on Feb. 27, 2010? We have the orbit data that tracks this object backwards in time! Nobody had the ability to know this ELEnin alignment had significance to this investigation at the time, but now we use science to put 2 and 2 together and that equals 4 in my book! Here is the deal in a nutshell for those of you slowly waking up to the reality of what is going on here: Many people have the Normalcy Bias illness that forces you to DENY the evidence looking you right in the face right now. However, little baby seeds are being planted and slowly the earth change patterns will become more pronounced and some of you will wake up to realize we are looking at a series of ELE events of Biblical proportions on the horizon.

The crap is hitting the fan in places all over the planet where some people are prepared and some people are not. My advice is to be prepared in time for when the crap hits the fan near you. The people coming to harm you will not be the Govt, or the Chinese, or people after your gold and silver. They will be hungry and just trying to survive another day; and if you do not prepare, that person will be you.

PXGuy



posted on Mar, 23 2011 @ 04:24 PM
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... this ELEnin object IS NO MERE COMET. The thesis says that the NASA ELEnin Comet is a Psyop cover that is hiding a dark star that is entering our inner solar system for an orbit around the Sun using this orbit/flight path (link). This thing is getting closer by about 2 million miles every day and the earth change symptoms are increasing. Check to see if the 3/11/2011, 2/27/2010 and 9/4/2010 major earthquake events take place at Sun/Earth/ELEnin alignments, because THEY DO.


What evidence have you provided that this is a "Psyop cover?" The comet was reported and registered in the usual way. Scientists have expressed little interest in it because it is so routine. Amateur astronomers are excited because it has the potential to be an extremely visible object as it passes nearby. It is clearly not a "dark star" as it would be highly visible ans massive. It is neither. What do you mean by Sun/Earth/Elenin "alignments," exactly? The three bodies are in a constantly shifting set of relationships with each other. Please be more specific.
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posted on Mar, 23 2011 @ 07:27 PM
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Yeah, look up the Ring of Fire.

And provide actual evidence that this comet is something else, other than deranged rambling.

Maybe I'll actually listen to you then.

And, well, I'll use your logic for a moment. The strongest quake ever recorded, in Cascadia in 1960, measured 9.5 on the Richter scale.

I suppose our little friend Elenin, despite having an orbit of over half a million years, paid us a visit back then?



posted on Mar, 23 2011 @ 09:36 PM
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Sorry I have missed all of this nonsense. A dark star is a what? It would still be a reflective object. Anything as large as Jupiter would be easily seen with the unaided eye.

NO earthquakes are caused by any other celestial object than possibly the Moon. Even then the correlation between a few weaker types of earthquakes and the Moon is poor. The Sun is much closer than this object, a small comet, and yet it has NO affects on earthquakes.

Again. Large gravitational effects do NOT cause or affect earthquakes. In fact, they have no known affect on volcanic eruptions.

Instead of real science there is this odd claim here than a body which can't be seen and should be seen is causing an affect which is known not to happen.

So when you make up stuff about a comet being a larger body that somehow does not affect the motions of the other planets and has managed for decades to escape detection by a number of whole sky surveys, both ground based, and space based we are supposed to believe this rant?



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