Elenin=Planet X, Nebiru (Mathematical proof)

Originally posted by caf1550
reply to post by Unity_99

 

Computer simulations by Quintana, Adamas, Lissauer and Chambers (The Astrophysical Journal, Vol. 660, p. 807, 2007) show that planets can form within 2 AU from the primary when the minimum separation of two stars is 10 AU. That's not enough to form a Jupiter that will herd water-carrying bodies to the inner planets, but at least most planets in this case will have nearly circular orbits. Planets farther out will have too eccentric orbits or their orbits will be perturbed by the other star and will probably be expelled. Out of 200 extrasolar planets or so discovered so far 33 are known to orbit components of binaries or triple stars, but the separations of the stars are larger than 100 AU. At those distances, a solar type star will have no influence on the temperature of a planet closer to the primary. Three planets have been discovered in binaries with separations less than 20 AU. This does not mean that closer binaries have no planets, but discovering them with available techniques is difficult. By the way, a recent investigation by Eggenberger, Udry, Mazeh, Segal and Mayor (Astronomy and Astrophyics, Vol. 466, p. 1179, 2007) failed to confirm the existence of a Jupiter-like planet around HD 188753 A.

if there is a binary star system and the primary star is more massive then the secondary star all planets that would form would form around the primary star if they formed around the secondary star they would be expelled from the solar system because there orbits are so eccentric

If one of the stars is far enough or have much less mass than the other, planets will form around the more massive star, called the primary star, and will have nearly circular orbits. This is important to prevent the planet from becoming too hot or too cold at different times of the year

www.madsci.org...

i don't get it whenever a comet is about to pass us people say it "wormwood" or "nibiru" why can't it just be a comet why does the passing of a comet always spell disaster to some people

whne both halleys comet and hale-bopp passed again people were saying that it is the supposed "wormwood" or the supposed "nibiru"

"wormwood" is from the bible....the bible defenitley one of the most believeable books out there

"nibiru" thank you Nancy Leiber for telling us to kill our pets way to go sweetheart oh and also when she was proved wrong she just simply chnaged her date to guess what 2012

its a comet people....not the end of the world....deal with this fact

Because some people were crazed or deluded and announced imminent doom falsely, that does not mean nothing bad will ever happen.

reply to post by Ghost375


Wow where to begin explaining this to you?? Ok first you are not dealing with just 1 earthquake there were after shocks most in the 6 range. Second massive force is not required to to alter the earths axis. The planet is spinning when Japan moved which it did this causes the earth to have to re balance its spin. Now the earths rotational axis all ready varies by about 20 ft its called Chandler wobble. He was the one able to prove Sir Isac Newtons theory called free nutation. Now what happened here is the quake was big enough to move Japan but not the world. But in order for the spin to correct for mass change the axis spun into a new position.

So the force required to move the axis is no where near what it would take to move the planet!!! If you want to learn about rotation get two basketballs spin them. Then take 1 basketball and stick chewing gum to the ball and spin again youll see its rotation change as it tries to correct for the mass of the gum. Hope that explains things for you.

PS If we were a binary star system and it enters the inner planets orbits we wouldn't not be here we would have been slung into space millions of years ago.

Originally posted by stereologist
reply to post by Ghost375

 

and assuming Nibiru is in Elenin's position,

That would put this hoax planet inside of the orbit of Jupiter. Why can't we see it? BECAUSE IT IS A HOAX.

Because a Brown Dwarf Star is dark and will not reflect very much light at all, Its made of mostly rust AKA Iron Oxide. Check the position with an infra-red lens and you will spot it, no comet.

Soon people will be spotting it with regular night vision optics.

Do some fact checking before you spout off at the yapper please because correcting you is really getting old.

Originally posted by Sky watcher

Originally posted by stereologist
reply to post by Ghost375

 

and assuming Nibiru is in Elenin's position,

That would put this hoax planet inside of the orbit of Jupiter. Why can't we see it? BECAUSE IT IS A HOAX.

Because a Brown Dwarf Star is dark and will not reflect very much light at all, Its made of mostly rust AKA Iron Oxide. Check the position with an infra-red lens and you will spot it, no comet.

Soon people will be spotting it with regular night vision optics.

Do some fact checking before you spout off at the yapper please because correcting you is really getting old.

The Red Dragon is coming then, eh?

Originally posted by Sky watcher

Originally posted by stereologist
reply to post by Ghost375

 

and assuming Nibiru is in Elenin's position,

That would put this hoax planet inside of the orbit of Jupiter. Why can't we see it? BECAUSE IT IS A HOAX.

Because a Brown Dwarf Star is dark and will not reflect very much light at all, Its made of mostly rust AKA Iron Oxide. Check the position with an infra-red lens and you will spot it, no comet.

Soon people will be spotting it with regular night vision optics.

Do some fact checking before you spout off at the yapper please because correcting you is really getting old.

Bull and #.

Brown dwarfs have the same composition as Jupiter. Therefore, even if it had a non-existent albedo, it would still be around a magnitude of 2, which is clearly visible to the naked eye,

Oh, and this would have happened. In the 90s.

www.youtube.com...

Where's all the reports of planets being torn from their orbits, hm?

But hey, I'm a guy who respects common sense.

Elenin is also around magnitude 14, and completely invisible to the naked eye. So, no, no dinky camera would spot it.

Originally posted by NyxOne

Originally posted by Sky watcher

Originally posted by stereologist
reply to post by Ghost375

 

and assuming Nibiru is in Elenin's position,

That would put this hoax planet inside of the orbit of Jupiter. Why can't we see it? BECAUSE IT IS A HOAX.

Because a Brown Dwarf Star is dark and will not reflect very much light at all, Its made of mostly rust AKA Iron Oxide. Check the position with an infra-red lens and you will spot it, no comet.

Soon people will be spotting it with regular night vision optics.

Do some fact checking before you spout off at the yapper please because correcting you is really getting old.

Bull and #.

Brown dwarfs have the same composition as Jupiter. Therefore, even if it had a non-existent albedo, it would still be around a magnitude of 2, which is clearly visible to the naked eye,

Oh, and this would have happened. In the 90s.

www.youtube.com...

Where's all the reports of planets being torn from their orbits, hm?

But hey, I'm a guy who respects common sense.

Elenin is also around magnitude 14, and completely invisible to the naked eye. So, no, no dinky camera would spot it.

edit on 6-4-2011 by NyxOne because: (no reason given)

How do we know the reports and sightings are not being suppressed? As in, "Shut up and we'll give you a spot in an underground bunker"?

Originally posted by Khazaq

Originally posted by NyxOne

Originally posted by Sky watcher

Originally posted by stereologist
reply to post by Ghost375

 

and assuming Nibiru is in Elenin's position,

That would put this hoax planet inside of the orbit of Jupiter. Why can't we see it? BECAUSE IT IS A HOAX.

Because a Brown Dwarf Star is dark and will not reflect very much light at all, Its made of mostly rust AKA Iron Oxide. Check the position with an infra-red lens and you will spot it, no comet.

Soon people will be spotting it with regular night vision optics.

Do some fact checking before you spout off at the yapper please because correcting you is really getting old.

Bull and #.

Brown dwarfs have the same composition as Jupiter. Therefore, even if it had a non-existent albedo, it would still be around a magnitude of 2, which is clearly visible to the naked eye,

Oh, and this would have happened. In the 90s.

www.youtube.com...

Where's all the reports of planets being torn from their orbits, hm?

But hey, I'm a guy who respects common sense.

Elenin is also around magnitude 14, and completely invisible to the naked eye. So, no, no dinky camera would spot it.

edit on 6-4-2011 by NyxOne because: (no reason given)

How do we know the reports and sightings are not being suppressed? As in, "Shut up and we'll give you a spot in an underground bunker"?

Something that would have the exact same luminosity as Jupiter, if it existed, is being 'suppressed'?

Something that would be tearing planets out of orbits, if it existed, is being 'suppressed'?

Okay. Keep living in that strange little world of yours.

reply to post by Khazaq


I think its pretty obvious no planets have been flung from orbit. I don't need NASA to tell me where Mars, Jupiter, Saturn .... is in the sky.

reply to post by Sky watcher

Because a Brown Dwarf Star is dark and will not reflect very much light at all, Its made of mostly rust AKA Iron Oxide. Check the position with an infra-red lens and you will spot it, no comet.

A brown dwarf is not made out of rust. Like just about everything else in the universe, it's mostly hydrogen! Because they are not massive enough for fusion to occur at their core, they retain higher proportions of lighter elements like lithium, and trace amounts of other elements from their birth cloud. You may be misunderstanding the phrase: "iron rain."

The atmospheres contain primarily gases, including gaseous iron and silicate. At hotter temperatures-3,140 degrees Fahrenheit (2,000 degrees Kelvin)-typical of younger brown dwarfs, the iron remains in its gaseous phase. Over time as the glowing body cools, the iron condenses to form iron-rich clouds and droplets of liquid-iron rain.

Space.com

Soon people will be spotting it with regular night vision optics.

Spotting what? Comet C/2010 X-1 or Nibiru? The former will probably require binoculars, the later has been spotted by people with night vision cameras, telescopes, mobile phone cameras and the naked eye since at least 2007. Just check out YouTube. Of course, these sightings always turn out to be bogus.

Do some fact checking before you spout off at the yapper please because correcting you is really getting old.

No additional comment.

Originally posted by NyxOne

Something that would have the exact same luminosity as Jupiter, if it existed, is being 'suppressed'?

Something that would be tearing planets out of orbits, if it existed, is being 'suppressed'?

Okay. Keep living in that strange little world of yours.

Wouldn't have the same luminosity as Jupiter. A brown dwarf does not reflect as much light as a gas giant. And it's perfectly possible for a brown dwarf to be roughly the size of Jupiter while still having a lot more mass.

How do we know there are not other unknown bodies in our system exerting gravitational influence on the planets. Scientists have been theorizing about Nemesis and/or Tyche for awhile now. Perhaps there is something near or around our system which offsets the gravitational influence of the approaching brown dwarf star so that it only drastically effects planets when it is directly aligned with the individual planet and the sun?

How do we know that planets would be ripped out of their orbits? I think you're being over-dramatic. The gravitational pull of a small brown dwarf is obviously much weaker than that of our sun.

reply to post by Khazaq


yes it would be weaken then the gravitational field of our sun but if a brown dwarf was moving through the solar system it would still disrupt the orbits of the outer planets and the astroid belt and then it would effect the orbits of the inner planets

the speculation about planet x/ tyche was abollished after the voyager 2 space craft went by neptune in 1989 and measured it, they actually found that it was neptune that effect uranus and nto a supposed planet that was located in the kupier belt or even the ort cloud

Originally posted by Khazaq

Originally posted by NyxOne

Something that would have the exact same luminosity as Jupiter, if it existed, is being 'suppressed'?

Something that would be tearing planets out of orbits, if it existed, is being 'suppressed'?

Okay. Keep living in that strange little world of yours.

Wouldn't have the same luminosity as Jupiter. A brown dwarf does not reflect as much light as a gas giant. And it's perfectly possible for a brown dwarf to be roughly the size of Jupiter while still having a lot more mass.

How do we know there are not other unknown bodies in our system exerting gravitational influence on the planets. Scientists have been theorizing about Nemesis and/or Tyche for awhile now. Perhaps there is something near or around our system which offsets the gravitational influence of the approaching brown dwarf star so that it only drastically effects planets when it is directly aligned with the individual planet and the sun?

How do we know that planets would be ripped out of their orbits? I think you're being over-dramatic. The gravitational pull of a small brown dwarf is obviously much weaker than that of our sun.

edit on 7-4-2011 by Khazaq because: (no reason given)

www.youtube.com...

Well, uh, here is a gravity simulation of the effects of a slightly below minimum mass brown dwarf in our solar system.

And even if a brown dwarf had a black albedo, it would still be around 2 in magnitude, easily visible to the naked eye.

All you naysayers can lie to us or lie to yourselves or remain in denial for as long as you like. But the children of God know the truth. We know what's coming.

Originally posted by Khazaq
All you naysayers can lie to us or lie to yourselves or remain in denial for as long as you like. But the children of God know the truth. We know what's coming.

It'd be nice to provide something other than religious rambling.

Just throwing out a helpful hint.

Learn to argue. It's so painfully easy to tell when you're cornered.

I'm not trying to argue. I suppose the words deception and cover-up are not in your vocabulary.

I have eyes to see and ears to hear. My brothers and sisters who hear the message will take heed and prepare themselves, physically, mentally, and spiritually. Those are who aren't, won't. Good day.

reply to post by Khazaq


The claims of deception and cover up are simply words meaning that it is time to toss in the towel, because the position of those making the claims is shown to be false in all ways. Another sure sign of a failed position is to claim that they are in on the knowledge of a hidden agenda due to insider information which has been passed to them through some arcane means.

Originally posted by Khazaq
All you naysayers can lie to us or lie to yourselves or remain in denial for as long as you like. But the children of God know the truth. We know what's coming.

how do you know the truth, if you indeed do, please
pass it around to those who seek it...

I am a child of god as is every human.. yet i am only guessing....

Originally posted by guessing

Originally posted by Khazaq
All you naysayers can lie to us or lie to yourselves or remain in denial for as long as you like. But the children of God know the truth. We know what's coming.

how do you know the truth, if you indeed do, please
pass it around to those who seek it...

I am a child of god as is every human.. yet i am only guessing....

VENUS AT :56, NIBIRU AT 1:10!!! SPOTTED TODAY ON HAWAII OBSERVATORY CAM DISINFO THAT THIS IS "SOLVED", THIS IS SMOKING GUN! MUST READ!
www.godlikeproductions.com...

Listen to George Noory interview Lucus about this information. It's pretty interesting. - www.usmessageboard.com...

www.youtube.com...

In the 70's a couple of documentaries were saying the Mayan Calendar ended on December 24th, 2011

www.youtube.com... - narrated by Leonard Nimoy and Rod Sterling

And this website claims that the Mayan Calendar actually ends on October 28, 2011

www.calleman.com...

Sort of corresponds rather neatly with the time Elenin will be at close proximity to Earth.

www.youtube.com...

Have we been lied to about 2012? Do the elite actually expect the Pole-shift to occur this year, in 2011?

I don't think 9nania is to be trusted implicitly, but she did make a somewhat convincing argument about information being encoded in the film 2012. Check it out and see what you think.

Timeline 4/11-2/12 Encoded in '2012' Movie
www.youtube.com...

www.youtube.com...
9nania uploaded that warning on March 8, 2011. The reason I first learned of this was because Alex Jones played a clip from this video on his radio show.

Sept. 4, 2010 - Christchurch, New Zealand - 7.1 earthquake
Elenin-earth-sun alignment

Feb. 7, 2010 - Chile - 8.8 earthquake
Elenin-earth-sun alignment

Mar. 11, 2011 - Japan - 9.0 earthquake
Elenin-earth-sun alignment

Once is an accident. Twice is coincidence. Three times is a pattern.

1 Peter 4:17 For the time is come that judgment must begin at the house of God...

Sept 4, 2010 - Christchurch, New Zealand

Kind of interesting, eh?

"And therefore as a stranger give it welcome.
There are more things in heaven and earth, Horatio,
Than are dreamt of in your philosophy." - Hamlet, Act 1, Scene 5

So, now we await the next Elenin-Earth-Sun alignment in September, when we will see whether the theories regarding a coming pole shift turn out to be true or false. If we have food, water, survival gear, bug-out bags ready, and a plan in place, we've lost nothing if the pole shift does not occur. But if it does occur and we haven't prepared, then we are screwed.

If the pole shift doesn't happen and we've prepared, that means we will still be prepared for whatever other disasters may occur in the near future. After all, the economic collapse of the United States and World War III are still very real possibilities with or without a pole shift. And we've been warned repeatedly that Yellowstone can erupt at any time. Anyone living within the kill zone of that super volcano is either ignorant or crazy. Also, we've just witnessed the devastation visited on Japan. We know what earthquakes can do. Anyone who believes that a 9.0 or greater can't destroy Los Angeles is living in a fantasy world. And then there's the NLE in the New Madrid fault zone coming up in May - www.fema.gov...

Here's the Sixth Seal. Next alignment of Elenin-Earth-Sun is around mid-September. What do you think's going to happen?

Revelation 6
[12] And I beheld when he had opened the sixth seal, and, lo, there was a great earthquake; and the sun became black as sackcloth of hair, and the moon became as blood;
[13] And the stars of heaven fell unto the earth, even as a fig tree casteth her untimely figs, when she is shaken of a mighty wind.
[14] And the heaven departed as a scroll when it is rolled together; and every mountain and island were moved out of their places.
[15] And the kings of the earth, and the great men, and the rich men, and the chief captains, and the mighty men, and every bondman, and every free man, hid themselves in the dens and in the rocks of the mountains;
[16] And said to the mountains and rocks, Fall on us, and hide us from the face of him that sitteth on the throne, and from the wrath of the Lamb:
[17] For the great day of his wrath is come; and who shall be able to stand?

Isaiah 24
[1] Behold, the LORD maketh the earth empty, and maketh it waste, and turneth it upside down, and scattereth abroad the inhabitants thereof.
[2] And it shall be, as with the people, so with the priest; as with the servant, so with his master; as with the maid, so with her mistress; as with the buyer, so with the seller; as with the lender, so with the borrower; as with the taker of usury, so with the giver of usury to him.
[3] The land shall be utterly emptied, and utterly spoiled: for the LORD hath spoken this word.
[4] The earth mourneth and fadeth away, the world languisheth and fadeth away, the haughty people of the earth do languish.
[5] The earth also is defiled under the inhabitants thereof; because they have transgressed the laws, changed the ordinance, broken the everlasting covenant.
[6] Therefore hath the curse devoured the earth, and they that dwell therein are desolate: therefore the inhabitants of the earth are burned, and few men left.
[7] The new wine mourneth, the vine languisheth, all the merryhearted do sigh.
[8] The mirth of tabrets ceaseth, the noise of them that rejoice endeth, the joy of the harp ceaseth.
[9] They shall not drink wine with a song; strong drink shall be bitter to them that drink it.
[10] The city of confusion is broken down: every house is shut up, that no man may come in.
[11] There is a crying for wine in the streets; all joy is darkened, the mirth of the land is gone.
[12] In the city is left desolation, and the gate is smitten with destruction.
[13] When thus it shall be in the midst of the land among the people, there shall be as the shaking of an olive tree, and as the gleaning grapes when the vintage is done.
[14] They shall lift up their voice, they shall sing for the majesty of the LORD, they shall cry aloud from the sea.
[15] Wherefore glorify ye the LORD in the fires, even the name of the LORD God of Israel in the isles of the sea.
[16] From the uttermost part of the earth have we heard songs, even glory to the righteous. But I said, My leanness, my leanness, woe unto me! the treacherous dealers have dealt treacherously; yea, the treacherous dealers have dealt very treacherously.
[17] Fear, and the pit, and the snare, are upon thee, O inhabitant of the earth.
[18] And it shall come to pass, that he who fleeth from the noise of the fear shall fall into the pit; and he that cometh up out of the midst of the pit shall be taken in the snare: for the windows from on high are open, and the foundations of the earth do shake.
[19] The earth is utterly broken down, the earth is clean dissolved, the earth is moved exceedingly.
[20] The earth shall reel to and fro like a drunkard, and shall be removed like a cottage; and the transgression thereof shall be heavy upon it; and it shall fall, and not rise again.
[21] And it shall come to pass in that day, that the LORD shall punish the host of the high ones that are on high, and the kings of the earth upon the earth.
[22] And they shall be gathered together, as prisoners are gathered in the pit, and shall be shut up in the prison, and after many days shall they be visited.
[23] Then the moon shall be confounded, and the sun ashamed, when the LORD of hosts shall reign in mount Zion, and in Jerusalem, and before his ancients gloriously.

Sounds like the effects of a pole shift to me.

My interpretation of the first five Seals (which have already been opened).

Revelation Chapter 6
[1] And I saw when the Lamb opened one of the seals, and I heard, as it were the noise of thunder, one of the four beasts saying, Come and see.
[2] And I saw, and behold a white horse: and he that sat on him had a bow; and a crown was given unto him: and he went forth conquering, and to conquer.

White horse, white race. The European conquest and colonization of the earth, culminating in the British Empire and World War I.

[3] And when he had opened the second seal, I heard the second beast say, Come and see.
[4] And there went out another horse that was red: and power was given to him that sat thereon to take peace from the earth, and that they should kill one another: and there was given unto him a great sword.

Red horse, red menace. Atheist Communist Revolutions in Russia and China, eventually leading to the Cold War. Mujahideen were created by the CIA to lure the Russians into Afghanistan, which later led to the War on Terror.

[5] And when he had opened the third seal, I heard the third beast say, Come and see. And I beheld, and lo a black horse; and he that sat on him had a pair of balances in his hand.
[6] And I heard a voice in the midst of the four beasts say, A measure of wheat for a penny, and three measures of barley for a penny; and see thou hurt not the oil and the wine.

Black horse, Black Tuesday. The Great Depression. (The October 1929 crash occurred on a Tuesday, hence the name. Note that Tuesday is also the day of the Celtic/Norse god of war.)

7] And when he had opened the fourth seal, I heard the voice of the fourth beast say, Come and see.
[8] And I looked, and behold a pale horse: and his name that sat on him was Death, and Hell followed with him. And power was given unto them over the fourth part of the earth, to kill with sword, and with hunger, and with death, and with the beasts of the earth.

World War II leading into the Cold War leading into the War on Terror. And, soon enough, we will have World War III.

[9] And when he had opened the fifth seal, I saw under the altar the souls of them that were slain for the word of God, and for the testimony which they held:
[10] And they cried with a loud voice, saying, How long, O Lord, holy and true, dost thou not judge and avenge our blood on them that dwell on the earth?
[11] And white robes were given unto every one of them; and it was said unto them, that they should rest yet for a little season, until their fellowservants also and their brethren, that should be killed as they were, should be fulfilled.

More Christians were put to death in the Twentieth Century than all previous centuries combined. Millions died in the Russian gulags alone.

So, the first five seals have already been opened, and the horsemen continue to ride. Note that the text does not say any of them cease to ride throughout the period of the Seals.

See www.abovetopsecret.com... - Fourth Horse of the Apocalypse spotted at Egypt protests with VIDEO. Illusion or Omen?

I started posting in on that thread on page 27, but mostly just the info I already shared here.