'Nuclear Ninja' suicide mission to save Japan

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posted on Mar, 19 2011 @ 09:41 AM
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Originally posted by muzzleflash

You haven't been paying attention. That's ok I'll inform you about the situation.

Tons of citizens in Japan are volunteering RIGHT NOW, but are being turned away by the authorities because they are not "skilled or experienced" enough.

They want people who have "official jobs/capacity" in dealing with this.

Please research Chernobyl and you will realize I'm actually right about rotating people out.


While I agree with you that they need more manpower, in this case ,unlike chernobyl, they do need people with certain technical experience. Chernobyl threw reactor fuel and rods all over the place and it had to be moved somehow and manpower was how they did it. In Japan we have different issues, trying to get the cooling systems restored and the water pumping operation to cool the fuel. Both of those task require technical knowledge that people off the street don't have.




posted on Mar, 19 2011 @ 09:42 AM
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Originally posted by Exuberant1

Originally posted by vivalarevolution
I only wish I could give my life for a cause such as this, self sacrifice for something so much greater than just myself. If I'd the resources, I'd go in a heartbeat, but unfortunately stuck, serving myself, for no cause at all but to have a little food in my belly and a roof over my head.


You have the means to make it to Japan and do your suicide mission, you just don't have what it takes.


You can hardly fault him for not being a nuclear engineer and fluent, or at least somewhat versed, in Japanese.



posted on Mar, 19 2011 @ 09:46 AM
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In Chernobyl they sent about 600 000 people to abolish consequences. Though no one really knew the risks. In Soviet Union - you dis what you were told to do, and you know what government allowed you to know - which is close to nothing. They evacuated Pripyat - town of 50 000 people which is located 3 km from Power station 36 hours after the crash and no one really knew that they are being exposed to very high amount of radiation until evacuation.



posted on Mar, 19 2011 @ 09:55 AM
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I like what you say, only because you say what I would've said only a year or two ago, but honestly, I'm far enough in the hole atm, and jobless, so that I couldn't even get a card/loan to do anything with, my credit is shot, due to mistakes made thinking in the "the world is your apple/playground/(insert whatever makes you happy here)" mindset, living for the moment, thinking, "oh, you can always work your way out of it, yada yada. " True, I could burglarize and steal my way to the money, get a passport, and try to escape the country before being smacked down by that oh so long arm of the law, but, really.. I'm an overgrown child, not so capable of the string pulling it'd take to get out, and over there, I've experienced the life I chose for myself, won it and lost it all. Been through the ringer, tried to get out of the perpetual madness that so many other fellow humans that fell for the same tricks are/have going/gone through, you wanna buy me a passport and ticket? I'll go today, but all I can do right now, is take this $12 or so I've in my pants, go to #ty walmart, and get a couple days worth of crummy food, so that I'm not a skeleton by the end of next week, for nothing. Hoping somehow I will come across a few more dollars within the next few days so that I can repeat. And frankly, I'd appreciate it much if you didn't attempt using your under-informed mind to speak for me, I do just fine at doing a shotty job of it thank you. But yes, I could go and sell a few grand worth of my grandmother's possessions while she's out working sixty hours a week lucky to have a job, but, well, no thank you, I'd rather not leave my family thinking god knows what about me, like some petty lowlife thief. Although, as they say, "all things are true in some sense, false in some sense, and bleh bleet on and on". Nothing but love for you. Also don't worry, we'll get our chance to play hero soon enough, trust me. Watch the television, the "top dawgs", you could say, the way they dance around their words, lie through their teeth, have no fear, false flag disasters, coming soon to a city/country near you. And you'll be hard pressed to find anyone who won't be affected when the time comes, they've their bunkers dug, their pre/during/post apocalyptic plans made, and the gears have been set in motion for a while now. Sit back, relax, and enjoi the show. And for all our sakes, I hope to god I'm dead wrong.

Edit to: apologize for run ons and ineloquence, and the occasional making a word or two up.
edit on 19-3-2011 by vivalarevolution because: clarification of grammatical errors.



posted on Mar, 19 2011 @ 10:37 AM
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the workers in the plants are not to blame.
they tell the people at the top.
"we have a very big problem!"
and the people at the top say.
"Fix it, and keep quiet. every thing is ok!"

I can not belive they dont build them better?
they should have a Big water tower.
steaming off all the water happens a lot.
and why are the walls not thick?
they should not blow up that easly.
they spend milllions!!!



posted on Mar, 19 2011 @ 10:40 AM
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Been Discussing These issues here:

Selfless Acts & "Suicide-Missions": Create A Program For Human Volunteers?


GENESIS OF THE IDEA
I came to a realization while reading about the Fukushima 50.

THE IDEA
To have a national or international organization create a system for training and registration of volunteers which are to be called-up in situations of dire need for a person(s) to undertake "suicide-missions" or highly hazardous situations, or missions. This would not replace Military, Police, or Fire Fighters, EMS, etc who may face danger in their work, although these people may volunteer as well.

Take a moment to imagine situations where this system could be of great benefit to human life.



posted on Mar, 19 2011 @ 11:01 AM
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Originally posted by AllSeeingI
Been Discussing These issues here:

Selfless Acts & "Suicide-Missions": Create A Program For Human Volunteers?


GENESIS OF THE IDEA
I came to a realization while reading about the Fukushima 50.

THE IDEA
To have a national or international organization create a system for training and registration of volunteers which are to be called-up in situations of dire need for a person(s) to undertake "suicide-missions" or highly hazardous situations, or missions. This would not replace Military, Police, or Fire Fighters, EMS, etc who may face danger in their work, although these people may volunteer as well.

Take a moment to imagine situations where this system could be of great benefit to human life.


Certainly an idea. Particularly if we are to experience more and more catastophes.

Would you be up for this?



posted on Mar, 19 2011 @ 11:06 AM
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I would just like to add this :

"Remarkably, the Chernobyl disaster could have been far worse, and tremendous efforts were made to "bury" the reactor by dropping thousands of tonnes of sand, lead, boric acid and other materials onto it from helicopters. Counter-productively, the effect of these materials was like lining the walls of a furnace with firebrick and increased the temperature of the molten fuel which was already melting its way through the reactor floor. Water that had been pumped into the building in a vain effort to extinguish the fire from the burning graphite moderator began to collect beneath the reactor and without the self sacrifice of two men ("liquidators") sent in wearing only divers' "wet suits" to release the valve and vent the radioactive water from the building, a thermal explosion would have ensued when the molten fuel contacted it, rendering an area of land around the plant occupying hundreds of thousands of square kilometers uninhabitable for hundreds of years. There are various estimated figures, but undoubtedly many lives were saved by these two men, who gave their own in so doing."

These 2 chaps saved countless lives.........and never returned


Personally i blame all those responsible for suppressing free energy because I think we really do have the means
but there is no profit in it.
When we change they might! - Stop buying worthless crap that we really dont need and they will have no funds to manipulate us with !!

Next time your out at the shops take a second - take a second to look at whats on the shelf's how much worthless crap is there thats been made with man hours to be sold to man for profit....
Stop feeding the animals and they WILL die.

Rant over - My heart goes out to the PEOPLE Japan.



posted on Mar, 19 2011 @ 11:11 AM
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These people on the scene and doing the work CREATED this problem?

Pull your head out of it, and then wipe it.

The suits in the offices who give the news conferences and wont go near that area now are the ones who CREATED this problem, not these brave people willing to die so others are safe to solve it.



posted on Mar, 19 2011 @ 11:19 AM
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What a BS ... These people dont created earhtquakes,tsunami ....these people are not responsible for Nuclear crisis.... these people are giving their lives and you from mom's basement pretending smart ass talking rubbish



posted on Mar, 19 2011 @ 11:23 AM
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Damned right xavi! Starred!

These are the poor bastards trying to save the day at their own live's expense, not the lousy lieing suits sitting comfy in their offices.

Seldom have I heard anything more retarded than some idiot blaming the real heroes!

EDIT: OP, s & f.
edit on 19-3-2011 by mydarkpassenger because: (no reason given)



posted on Mar, 19 2011 @ 12:27 PM
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Originally posted by Mianeye
But these same people, who are now getting hero status, are the same people who created this disaster.


No. An 8+ magnitude earthquake AND a tsunami caused it.

They've dealt with earthquakes before.


I simply can't give them that hero status, cause right now they have to fix this problem, created by them self.
Every one of those technician, and expert knew the risk, and totaly ignored it.


According to you. I think perhaps if you worked with nuclear power (my son was a nuclear power engineer on a US sub) and had any contact with the plants that you might come to a very different answer. You don't seem to be very aware of what life is like for these people or the safety drills and preparedness exercises all they go through.

Any US nuke tech can give you a full picture. I hope you'll take time to talk to one someday.


To the rest of the crew, i can only say....Fix the mess you have created...

They are.

You may not think they're heroes, but the ones staying seem to be the high level techs who are older (and saving the younger ones fro radiation risk.) I think they're heroes, and very skilled and brave people.

Another news story on the Fifty



posted on Mar, 19 2011 @ 12:40 PM
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You act like there was some wide spread global movement that they were unsafe..

Question: Had you even HEARD of this power plant before this happened?



posted on Mar, 19 2011 @ 01:05 PM
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To most of the reply's...

Japan have had countless warnings from surrounding country' and other's, that it's not very smart to build a nuclear plant, in a fault zone.
That they ignored.

They build the plant at sea level, placing every emergency equipment right next to the reactors, at sea level.
Well knowing that,very big earthquake's and tsunami's hit this coast.(Short look at history)
They place thousen of spend fuelrod's in the reactor's, not in a safe place, and still at sea level.
They use more powerfull fuel, which sadly also is more toxic.

Then disaster, ican't blame the guy's for that one, so those of you who thought so


Big nasty earthquake, with a following tsunami, every emergency equipment get's knock out in one blow, and no backup plan.

The next part should never have happened.

The disaster is complete, what do they do.

They say no to any help, from outside country's.
They watch as the reactor's, one by one is breaking apart.
They throw 4 buckets of water, and place an oversized waterhose to turn down temperature in the reactor's.
They take a longer cable with electric power to run the emergency generator's, which they can get to cause the radiation is now to high.( I am aware of, that some generator's are running as we speak)

One week has now past.

They realized that this is bad, very bad.
They send a guy on television, crying and saying sorry.( I got emotion, so i have no doubt about this guy showing real feelings)
They go back to look at the damage(I am aware of, that they are working very hard to solve this mess)
They come up with the idea to entomb the reactor's.(This should have been started preparing, when the top of the reactor's blew up)

Every one working on this plant, was aware of all of the above,...EVERYONE!!!

I don't wish any of them to get hurt, but you can not make them hero's, thats against common sense.

This situation seems to have run wild, i hate it, i have no way i can help, but to donate money, and goodluck thoughts.
Me and i, hope they fix it....



posted on Mar, 19 2011 @ 03:32 PM
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Where are these guys when you need them?

I thought the Japanese were the best at robotics? Why aren't they using them?

I guess they have better things to do these days.

My hat goes off to the brave men and women of Japan. Courage and Honor are no stranger to these people.



posted on Mar, 19 2011 @ 03:56 PM
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Only if they had Radiation-Hardened computer chips. It would be nice if they could help.



posted on Mar, 19 2011 @ 04:37 PM
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Originally posted by CastleMadeOfSand




These are little people in robot suits.





posted on Mar, 19 2011 @ 05:52 PM
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Originally posted by muzzleflash

Originally posted by Creedo
Yes, because exposing tens of thousands or even a million people directly to high levels of lethal radiation is a GOOD IDEA!!


I'm going to pretend this is sarcasm or even outright trolling in hopes that you don't actually believe this is even remotely a logical attempt at a remedy for this nightmare. I'm going to give you that.


You don't know anything about radiation exposure than I suppose.
By rotating out people, you can make sure that each person never exceeds their limits for radiation exposure, keeping any adverse side effects minimized.

Do you know anything about Chernobyl? They rotated tons of people out on that one, and it potentially SAVED tons of lives.

Back to real life....now, since potentially over 100 million people have already BEEN exposed to this pollution, perhaps we should take this matter more serious and accept the fact that it's ultra-bad and we need a unified international effort with every able body we can get. And start entombing this bad boy asap!!





Yeah, they were called Bio-robots and just because they rotated, to quote you, "tons" of people, these people now in their 50's are all dead or about to die from their exposure. You make it sound that by rotating more people that they will be saved. They won't, so do you think it is smarter to kill several hundred or again to quote your numerical, "Millions"?

It looks as though you keep saying we need to go in there to help, but I don't see you rushing to the door after several invitations here?

I don't think they care how much experience you have just as long as you know how to work.



posted on Mar, 19 2011 @ 09:56 PM
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You bring up a good point if humanity is going to still choose to gamble with Nuclear power then we might do well to design robots and remote machienery to deal with any future potential nuclear disasters.



posted on Mar, 20 2011 @ 12:11 AM
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exactly. with nuclear power now 50 years old give or take, how the #%$@ has nobody invented a 'lead suit' of some kind for emergencies like this? there are 3 cores currently melting, 3 other active ones on site, plus another 5 or 6 cores worth of highly radioactive spent fuel, half of which was blown to smitherines. and absolutely no way to even approach containing any of it.

GAME OVER





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