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Think about it. Libya tell truth.

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posted on Mar, 19 2011 @ 05:27 AM
Gaddafi's son, Saadi. Claims al-queda is weaponizing the uprising. I just heard that British twit on CNN say that they have reports the plane that came down today was a rebel fighter. Does al-queda have jets? Also where the hell did the rebels get all the anti air guns on the back of toyotas from?

Al-queda are claimed by some to be an illusion organization that TPTB use to incite war or political motives.

This is what I think.

Muburak got told to move along. they knew what was next. Then the next guy who has been paid off longer by the USA than Muburak. Good old gaddafi, claims his country isnt uprising and that terrorists are inciting violence and take over. this could be that the US British French and Israelis sticking to their secret road map for peace in the middle east. And weaponizing the rebels using their made up terror network as cover. Meaning gaddafi is right. But I believe Gaddafi knows all this and is paid off to say it's them. Makes sense.

Where did this powerful rebels force come from? There like an invincible bunch of untrained military.

Why the # couldn't libyas migs take out rebel positions. Have you people really seen what they where using and how they were using it to be a anti air threat. Come on guys.

is this apart of the de-population plan? the money is going to crash soon. Things are going to get scarce. Shops are going to empty, pumps are going to dry up.

There is possible HAARP and now nuclear radiation floating around in the air?

I could go on....

I should.

Then look at 9/11 and strategic positioning of military in the middle east since. they the powers that be sure do have it covered.

Hmm what else....

That military shooting at the army base at fort hood. Didn't he look Arab and speak Muslim preach. but was apart of US military.

Very possible that there is a terror network militia that are trained by the secret and made to look rebel?

All suss, just looking for thoughts.

so Gaddafi I will give it to ya, you got me thinking.

posted on Mar, 19 2011 @ 08:33 PM
here is some aditional food for thought

i've been sharing the following links on all the Libya related threads 'cause a lot of people have been drinking the kool-aid on this one

Obama asks Saudis to airlift weapons into Benghazi

Exclusive: Benghazi Explosion – Tactical Nuke Use By Gaddafi Suspected

Tactical BS more like it, it was the BS meter that actually exploded
, later shown to be the bombing of a local arms depot/cache

Originally posted by ProtoplasmicTraveler The headline ought to read Tactical Nuke Use By Gaddafi Suspected by Donald Duck. The article seems to be making a case for that any explosion anywhere that either hurts or offends the sensibilities of Americans is a tactical nuke! The article also suggests the Oklahoma Bombing was a tactical nuclear device! Seems like yet another sensationalized accusation of the kind that gave us WMD in Iraq. Just a lot of unsubstantiated gibberish designed to enflame and anger people and get people here thinking about paying for another war for oil. How many times are the American people going to get fooled by the same old song and dance, wrap it in a flag, and have God bless it, and presto whamo American bombs start snuffing out 'collateral damage' everywhere.

Benghazi's importance to Libya and possibly the World:
also explains why Qaddafi has come down really harsh on these "rebels"

While many countries in the Middle East and North Africa bicker over water rights, Libya has tapped into an aquifer of 'fossil water' to change its topography – turning sand into soil. The 26-year, $20 billion project is nearly finished. …The Great Man-Made River, which is leader Muammar Qaddafi's ambitious answer to the country’s water problems, irrigates Libya’s large desert farms. The 2,333-mile network of pipes ferry water from four major underground aquifers in southern Libya to the northern population centers. Wells punctuate the water’s path, allowing farmers to utilize the water network in their fields. ... “Water is more precious for us than oil. ... Water here in Libya, it’s life.”

after all why would Qaddafi want to damage or destroy a 26-year, $20+ billion project that he considers his life's work?

Virtually unknown in the West: Libya's water resources. The real reason for toppling Quadaffi?

Libya: British plans to strip Gaddafi of oil revenue

Libya False Flag -part 1: Reuters Hoax EXPOSED
World Cheers as the CIA Plunges Libya Into Chaos

How was Libya doing under the rule of Gadaffi? How bad did the people have it? Were they oppressed as we now commonly accept as fact? Let us look at the facts for a moment.

Before the chaos erupted, Libya had a lower incarceration rate than the Czech republic. It ranked 61st. Libya had the lowest infant mortality rate of all of Africa. Libya had the highest life expectancy of all of Africa. Less than 5% of the population was undernourished. In response to the rising food prices around the world, the government of Libya abolished ALL taxes on food.People in Libya were rich. Libya had the highest gross domestic product (GDP) at purchasing power parity (PPP) per capita of all of Africa. The government took care to ensure that everyone in the country shared in the wealth. Libya had the highest Human Development Index of any country on the continent. The wealth was distributed equally. In Libya, a lower percentage of people lived below the poverty line than in the Netherlands.

How does Libya get so rich? The answer is oil. The country has a lot of oil, and does not allow foreign corporations to steal the resources while the population starves, unlike countries like Nigeria, a country that is basically run by Shell.

Like any country, Libya suffers from a government with corrupt bureaucrats that try to gain a bigger portion of the pie at the cost of everyone else. In response to this, Kadaffi called for the oil revenue to be distributed directly to the people, because in his opinion, the government was failing the people. However, unlike the article claims, Kadaffi is not the president of Libya. In fact he holds no official position in the government. This is the big mistake that people make. They claim that Kadaffi rules over Libya when in fact he doesn't, his position is more or less ceremonial. He should be compared to a founding father.

The true leader of Libya is an indirectly elected prime-minister. The current prime-minister is
Baghdadi Mahmudi. Calling Khadaffi the leader of Libya is comparable to calling Akihito the leader of Japan. Contrary to what your media is sketching, opinions in Libya vary. Some people support Gadaffi but want Mahmudi out. Others want both out. Many just want to live their life in peace. However, effort is taken to sketch the appearance of a popular revolt against the supposed leader of Libya, Gadaffi, when in fact he is just the architect of Libya's current political system, a mixture of pan-Arabism, socialism, and Islamic government.

Are the protesters in Libya comparable to the protesters in Egypt and Tunisia? Not at all. The governments reaction is more violent, and obviously excessive violence is being used. However let us look for a moment at the actions of the protesters. The building of the the general people's congress, the parliament of Libya, was put on fire by angry protestors. This is comparable to protesters putting the United States Capitol on fire. Do you think that for even a moment the US government would sit idly by as protesters put the US capitol on fire?

Great Britain funded an Al Qaeda cell in Libya, in an attempt to assassinate Gadaffi. The main opposition group in Libya now is the National Front for the Salvation of Libya. This opposition group is being funded by Saudi Arabia, the CIA, and French Intelligence. This group unified itself with other opposition groups, to become the National Conference for the Libyan Opposition. It was this organization that called for the "Day of Rage" that plunged Libya into chaos on February 17 of this year.

It did this in Benghazi, a conservative city that has always been opposed to Gadaffi's rule. It should be noted that the National Front for the Salvation of Libya is well armed. In 1996 the group tried to unleash a revolution in the eastern part of Libya before. It used the Libyan National Army, the armed division of the NFSL to begin this failed uprising.

Why is the United States so opposed to Gadaffi? He is the main threat to US hegemony in Africa, because he attempts to unite the continent against the United States. This concept is called the United States of Africa. In fact, Gadaffi holds all sorts of ideas that are contrary to US interests. The man blames the United States government for the creation of HIV. He claims that Israel is behind the assasination of Martin Luther King and president John. F. Kennedy. He says that the 9/11 hijackers were trained in the US. He also urged Libyans to donate blood to Americans after 9/11. Khadaffi is also the last of a generation of moderate socialist pan-Arab revolutionaries that is still in power, after Nasser and Hussein have been eliminated, and Syria has aligned itself with Iran.The United States and Israel however have no interest in a strong Arab world. In fact it seems that elementary to the plan is bringing Libya to its knees through chaos and anarchy. In late 2010, the United Kingdom was still propping up the Libyan government through lucrative arms sales. Nothing is a better guarantee to destroy Libya than a bloody civil war. The tribal system that is still strong in Libya is useful to exploit to generate such a war since Libya has historically been divided into various tribal groups.

This is also why the Libyan government responds by importing mercenaries. Tribal allegiances go before allegiance to the government, especially in Benghazi, and thus the central government has no control over the eastern part of the country anymore. The alternative to mercenaries is a conflict between the various ethnic groups. Gadaffi has tried for 41 years to make the country more homogeneous, but opposition groups funded by outside forced will take little more than a few days to put the country back into the 19th century, before the region was conquered and unified by Europeans. The violence is indeed excessive, but everyone seems to forget that the situation is not the same as in Tunis and Egypt. Tribal ties play a far greater role, and thus the conflict will unfortunately be bloodier.

posted on Mar, 19 2011 @ 08:40 PM
From what I remember reading, when Gaddaffi first fled, he ordered all the weapons caches be opened. And I think the statement was if he could not have Libya, no one would.

Weapons like most shown are readily available in most of the ME and Africa. Plus, look at the surrounding countries. They have massive rebel and guerrilla forces that will sell their mother for a buck.

The fighter shot down was from the Libyan Air Force, downed by a French Fighter?

posted on Mar, 19 2011 @ 10:30 PM
I am sorry, I don't believe our Government and I sure as hell do not believe the British Government. We have no reason other than oil and money interests and anyone that is there to save people is full of "you know what".

It is all about money and resources and the only expense is the lives of our proud men and women who blindly serve our Nation's fat-cat politicians!

Just reading about the cost of the missiles that were used today boggles my mind enough to make me sick!

"Change we can Believe in!" "Yes we Can" What a joke! The man is a plant!

My prayers are on Gadhafi that he may ward off this unnecessary infiltration of wicked evil people who are only trying to take what does not belong to them. Anyone who can sit there and agree with our governments over the Middle East Affairs and say that it is to "save the people from the tyrants", and to "save the World", have lost their minds and have bought into the system that is feeding this madness! Elitist bastards would eat your children if you let them!

I may not know all the details of the past, because they have written it to accommodate their own needs, and I may not know the details of our future, but I can see where this is leading and I have seen where all of our "wars" have led to, death of innocents with a high rate of return on the Investment! Plain and simple!

posted on Mar, 19 2011 @ 10:41 PM
Sorry but I fail to see how a guy who murdered his own people in much the same way Saddam Hussein and Pol Pot did can be seen by some members here as the good guy in all of this.

Whether it's for oil, money or water, the big concern is mostly about those people wanting freedom from an oppressive dictator.

Of course, once this is all done then the big question will be "so what of the rebels in future? Didn't the US give weapons to the Afghan rebels in the 80s to fight off the Soviet armies and it bit them in the ass when some of those rebels formed the Taliban and al-Qaeda?"

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