Originally posted by Stormdancer777
More recently, physicists have been theorizing the possibility of lower dimensionality, in which the universe has only two or even one spatial
dimension(s), along with one dimension of time. The theories suggest that the lower dimensions occurred in the past when the universe was much smaller
and had a much higher energy level (and temperature) than today. Further, it appears that the concept of lower dimensions may already have some
experimental evidence in cosmic ray observations.
In 2010, a team of physicists including Stojkovic proposed a lower-dimensional framework in which spacetime is fundamentally a (1 + 1)-dimensional
universe (meaning it contains one spatial dimension and one time dimension). In other words, the universe is a straight line that is “wrapped up”
in such a way so that it appears (3 + 1)-dimensional at today’s higher energy scales, which is what we see.
I will give it a shot. I wrote about this for someone else who wanted to understand; but, I cannot remember the thread. You are not alone, string
theory and extra dimensions can be tough to understand. The beginning point is simple physics. Gravity holds things together because of mass, the more
mass a thing has, the more gravity it creates, we are all taught about that in school, Newtonian physics and we can understand and see it in the world
As we got better at seeing smaller and smaller things we were finally able to see the sub-atomic level and then everything fell apart. Specifically,
gravity no longer made sense. On a sub-atomic level there is insufficient mass for atoms to stay together. Other problems emerged, my particular
favorite is the fact that two completely unconnected particles will respond to each other. Basically it is as if whenever someone in England sneezed,
you did too at the same time, every time. No explanation. In humans we would say it was ESP or some psychic connection; but, that is poo pooed by
science. Problem for science is that it happens on a sub-atomic level and there is no ignoring it.
The scientists who say there is no afterlife or God have a very big problem making sense of things on a sub-atomic level so they developed "strong
theory". String theory is the idea that everything is connected on some one dimensional level. String theory still had a problem, couldn't explain
gravity and why it made no sense. Not to be deterred science hypothesized that there must be other dimensions that have things we don't witness
effecting things in this universe. Other dimensions of reality. They kept increasing the number of other dimensions needed every time something they
knew to be true on a sub-atomic level. Eventually some were saying there were hundreds of alternative universes. Problem is they could test or prove
any of it.
The current state of science is the search for the Higgs Boson particle. This is a theoretical particle that is also called the "God Particle" by
scientists. The Large Hadron Collider was built to find this particle. Another problem, if they find the particle it violates the laws of physics and
if they don't find it, it still violates the laws of physics. Basically, what we discovered was that the laws of physics don't apply at a subatomic
level and we don't have a logical explanation for this.
Lately some scientists have put forth the explanation that nothing we see is real, instead, they hypothesize that the subatomic is real and we are a
reflection of it, that this is a fractal universe. Gets us back to lower dimensions. If this is all a projection then it must project from a lower
The reason their words are so confusing is because their theory violates logic. Don't get me wrong, I love science, I just hate to see it lie to
itself and violate its own rules because if they tell the truth, the truth is that they cannot explain the universe at all. Not how it began and not
how it works. There is a famous Asian physicist, sorry can't think of his name right now; but, he is on television often. He worked on these theories
and there youtube videos of him.
In pop-science a different view is emerging. People have taken to saying there is no matter, per se, and that the universe is vibrational or electric.
Those theories do not explain the big bang and many other things. Another thing, nobody bothers to explain what these other universes are. I like
heaven and hell; but, they don't explain them at all. You may have seen the threads about how the Large Hadron Collider could be a time machine. That
is because if they discover the Higgs Boson all bets are off and anything is possible. The particle would violate the rules of physics so anything is
possible. Except God of course, well, that is not quite true and that is why it was named the God particle (which is no longer liked by scientists
because it lets us all be in on the joke).
Just so you don't feel bad about not understanding what they had written, there is no agreement on it. Scientists began revolting when the number of
dimensions kept growing, too many unknowns. Einsteins theories regarding time are also fun to look at. It is supposedly the fourth dimension, the
reason, because it is not consistent, it is relative to where you are in relationship to other things. If you take a spaceship off the earth and fly
away from the earth. Gravity and speed effect the relative time of the observers. Time slows down as you go faster in relationship to another body.
The problem is the definition of time. Einstein determined that time was the movement of matter through space. While Einstein correctly defined what
is occurring, it doesn't make common sense. Time being measured by matter, that does not exist, means there is no time. I think we know there is
time, we feel it, we experience it and you cannot go backwards in time, you can only duplicate it.
This is dry stuff and I am trying to make light of it just to make it more amusing. Think about how you experience time, you experience it in your
mind, your mind is aware of the fact that things happened before. The only real measurement tool that we have is our experience of life. We are self
aware beings and we experience this world, it is not the other way around. We know there is time because our thoughts change, we have new experiences
and emotions vary. There is not just one note in the universe.
Many scientists follow the lunacy that the only thing we know is real is matter. Poor logic leads to convoluted and desperate answers which need to
get more and more complicated to avoid the obvious. The only thing we know is that we exist, this experience we live may or may not be real; but, the
experience of it is the only thing we know is real. Science would rather attempt to teach that you are mechanical and your experience is an illusion;
but, this is foolishness also. You don't have to worry about the afterlife if you aren't even real. Do you feel like an illusion because that is
what they are saying you are if the only real thing is matter.
On an atomic level physics works and allows us to do amazing things like building the Large Hadron Collider. It is an amazing work of science and
mechanics and technology. They spent billions building it so that they could prove that God did not exist, that we don't have to have a God
explanation. Problem for them is if they prove or disprove the Higgs Boson it means all physics is wrong and we spent a lot of time coming up with it.
Beyond that, on an atomic level physics works and quite well.
The shortest answer to your question is that the laws of physics fail on a subatomic level and the physicists are attempting to find an answer for
this. The best answer they have is that there are other dimensions and they act differently than ours; but, effect ours. That there is an unknown and
unknowable other thing in the universe that effects us. I can put this in very complex science speak; but, it is still the same answer. By the way,
whether they discover the Higgs Boson or don't it will neither prove nor disprove there is a God. I don't agree with calling it the God particle, it
is the impossible particle that has to exist if physics is to make sense and if it does then physics doesn't make sense.
The only scientists I personally trust are geologists and I know a few because I work with rocks. Geologists really mess up other scientists because
they don't have a political agenda. One geologist was asked about the sphinx, he was asked its age. He examined it and said tens of thousands of
years old; but, the Egyptologists did not like his answer because they measured its age based on the face and only gave it a few thousand years. The
geologist pointed to the wear on the sphinx and pointed out correctly that it was wear from water and there hadn't been water there for tens of
thousands of years. He also pointed out that the head was not carved at the same time the sphinx was made. All the other geologists read what he wrote
Science works where it needs to, it works for us in this life in this world. The fact that it makes no sense on a subatomic level is okay, we don't
need it to, we don't live on a subatomic level. Gravity works well enough on an atomic level, cars run, we stay on the earth and steak tastes great.
On a subatomic level we don't have an answer that makes sense in a mechanical universe. Be well.