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MSNBC - Banksters & Government Exposed FINALLY by Mainstream News!

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posted on Mar, 19 2011 @ 07:01 PM
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Originally posted by anumohi
the only thing thats ever going to happen with these bankers ,the congress,thefed is that they will pass legislation to complete our undoing

until the american people raise their arms and take back this country "NOTHING" will ever change


True. Too many still have it too good in America. Heck folks in poverty like like kings compared to the rest of the world.




posted on Mar, 19 2011 @ 07:26 PM
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Originally posted by Xcathdra
reply to post by Newbomb Turk
 


Nice... Now, we all need to get together and file one hell of a class action lawsuit against the FED, the Banks, The Congress to collect our money.

While at the same time, criminal charges for the same.

Question - When did this actually air on tv? Alan Grayson is no longer a member of Congress as of Jan 1 2011.
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There is more than a few problems with suing the banks.

First the banks are levered 30 -1 officially, but in reality they have absolutely no real assets - their liabilities that are not being shown make them all insolvent. The only way they are staying in business is permission to lie about their true financial condition, and an unlimited supply of electronic money from the fed whenever they ask for it. A ton of the money has been siphoned off by wall street salaries and bonuses - but they are not legally liable and even if we got every penny back, it is a small portion of the damage they have done. Most of the money they have cost Americans never existed till they created it, and you can't collect something that never really existed. However the people who got promised those debts legally have the right to them and expect to be paid - often they're survival is depending on it.

Also while wall street has been playing these games they have helped to destroy our real economy. First by getting the productive members of society into levels of debt that cannot be sustained, through artificially high prices on real estate, and other assets created by easy access to credit through fraud. Second by taking well educated graduates and starting them in an industry of wealth destruction (banking) instead of going into a business that creates wealth. They have taught anyone paying attention (which I admit isn't that many, but they usually are the intelligent ones) the way to get ahead in America is to commit fraud and the bigger the better.

The Fed and congress has zero assets either. They get their money from taxing, or from devaluing the dollar, so either way you would be suing yourself and giving the lawyers a huge chunk of change in the process.

Prison is really too good for the scum on wall street and their supporters in government. They have destroyed America's economy for most likely decades, and even now are continuing to play the same game, milking the public of every cent they can.
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posted on Mar, 19 2011 @ 07:45 PM
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doesnt seem like a big deal to me...no names were mentioned or anything of that nature. weve been watching this cat and mouse game for a loooong time...well before the internet was a gleem in the governments eye.

because a few people get together and try to make some splash on the internet people come here with the typical response " something Big is juuuuust around the corner"

lol

to bad after that corner there 10 more corners...

what the average joe isnt seeing or doesnt want to see is that the current oligarchy isnt that bad. ya, we get fed some bs through the msm. ya the uber wealthy hoard money. ya they like to control puppet gobernments..

for christ sake hasnt anybody ever read a history book?

it has been this way for thousands of years.

the past, present and future ruling class will always take advantage of the lower classes one way or another. it doesnt matter if its you or i or the bussiness moguls on wall street. those looking up want more and those looking down want to stay looking down. endofstory. ill tell you this, id rather have a greedy dude trying to make another million at the reigns than the neighborhood psycho trying to conquer everyone to believing in what he says.

the system is not that bad. always make it better. but there wont be any great huge "changes."

lets just doour best to use the system how it was designed to be ue. hold thepeople accountable that need to be held accountable.

if u want to really make a change then educate yourelf. become a constitutional lawyer and really do something...bitching constantly on an internet forum aint gunna get the job done folks.



posted on Mar, 19 2011 @ 07:49 PM
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I think the reason is because Dylan Ratigan is the one voice on mainstream that is talking seriously about the banking issue. I think he is a good guy and I like what he is doing, but also note the bizarre name he has Rat-i-gan like "Rat Again" to rat on someone is to expose their crimes.



posted on Mar, 19 2011 @ 08:36 PM
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You have to be mentally retarded to not understand that this is all scripted.

Glenn Beck, Dylan Ratigan, are simply spokesman for an agenda that has reached its expression. They are now serving as the 'opposition'. Its all acting, role playing. They are as much involved in whats going on, albeit from the media angle, as the rest of them.



posted on Mar, 19 2011 @ 08:44 PM
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Originally posted by dontreally
You have to be mentally retarded to not understand that this is all scripted.

Glenn Beck, Dylan Ratigan, are simply spokesman for an agenda that has reached its expression. They are now serving as the 'opposition'. Its all acting, role playing. They are as much involved in whats going on, albeit from the media angle, as the rest of them.



Oh, of course! Because the ridiculous notion of journalists dedicating their education and lives to reporting the news can't possibly have any roots in reality! I mean, if things sometimes were as they appeared, then where would we seat our paranoia? You are right. Only the mentally retarded would believe somebody saying things that ran counter to their own pet conspiracy theories.



posted on Mar, 19 2011 @ 09:00 PM
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Originally posted by Cuervo

Originally posted by dontreally
You have to be mentally retarded to not understand that this is all scripted.

Glenn Beck, Dylan Ratigan, are simply spokesman for an agenda that has reached its expression. They are now serving as the 'opposition'. Its all acting, role playing. They are as much involved in whats going on, albeit from the media angle, as the rest of them.



Oh, of course! Because the ridiculous notion of journalists dedicating their education and lives to reporting the news can't possibly have any roots in reality! I mean, if things sometimes were as they appeared, then where would we seat our paranoia? You are right. Only the mentally retarded would believe somebody saying things that ran counter to their own pet conspiracy theories.


You have to understand something. People are frustrated, angered and distrustful and in paranoia. We just found exposed truths that the federal government are criminals. I'd be questioning everyone aswell.

This feels like the movie the trueman show. It's like waking to to an alternate reality.

and even more so scary and this is indeed a scary thought.

This was aired a year ago. and someone quoted me earlier when they noticed said date and posted it. another person came and wrote "And not a single f*** was given that day".


These words are shockingly true. How could this have aired and yet this went unnoticed till now? what the hell was humanity doing on that day? X_X

it is frightening how the illusion was placed on us, it was soo powerful that the news went unnoticed
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posted on Mar, 19 2011 @ 09:02 PM
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China has been working on a COMMUNICATION INFRASTRUCTURE change:


CABL.nasdaq Reasons to own CABL.nasdaq shares:


Please see my notes below and please let me know if you have any questions.

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NOTED UP-COMING EVENTS:

China Cablecom Holdings, Ltd. expected to report Fiscal Year 2010 results on March 25, 2011. This event was calculated by Capital IQ


CABL - until July 21, 2011 , to regain compliance with the minimum bid rule. China Cablecom may achieve compliance during the 180-day period if the closing bid price of the Company's common stock is at least $1.00 per share for a minimum of 10 consecutive business days before July 21, 2011.

finance.yahoo.com...


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CABL *DD NOTES:

NOTES:
Restructued Debt this past year and hearing made a HUGE difference!
Earnings call for March not confirmed.
Equity STAKE STATED - Plantinim Partners fullyy Diluted would be 40% STAKE
Clive boasting 55 Million in REVENUES!!!
NASDAQ has givem them EXTENTION on MInimum BID



-------------------------------------------------------------------------------Filing from 2-Days ago.

CABL ~Barrons ranked CABL's majority holder TOP 30 "BEST HEDGE FUND"

online.barrons.com...


UNITED STATES
SECURITIES AND EXCHANGE COMMISSION
Washington, D.C. 20549

SCHEDULE 13D

Under the Securities Exchange Act of 1934
(Amendment No. 1)*

China Cablecom Holdings, Ltd.
(Name of Issuer)


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Platinum Partners Value Arbitrage Fund (USA) beneficially owns 1,000,498 Ordinary Shares representing 13.8% of all of the outstanding Ordinary Shares.

===============================================================================================================================================

FULLY DILUTED THAT ABOUT the 40% STAKE he could have been speaking about
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Clive Ng (born 1962, Malaysia) is a media sector financier and executive. He has focused primarily on Asian business opportunities and has been instrumental in several joint-venture partnerships between American companies and Asian firms, particularly during the Internet and e-commerce boom of the late 90s and early 2000s. He has also been a founding shatareholder in Asian new media firms such as MTV Japan and E*TRADE Asia
Currently, he is founder and Executive Chairman of China Cablecom Holdings.

en.wikipedia.org...


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Questions & Answers
Transcript Call Date 10/15/2010Operator: David Kratochvil, Euro Pacific Capital.

David Kratochvil - Euro Pacific Capital: I just wanted to touch on something that was mentioned briefly in the call earlier about provincial consolidation of cable operators. I was wondering if you could provide an update on the timing of what you see happening with Hubei and Binzhou provinces, and what kind of impact you think that might that on the assets and valuations, and if you have any information about any other consolidations that have been taking place, that have already occurred; can you talk about what kind of impact those have had?

Clive Ng - Executive Chairman: Right. Thanks, David. Thanks very much. I'll take a lead on this and maybe you can input later. First of all, the two regions that we're in, Shandong and Hubei are currently undergoing consolidation. Hubei has probably the most advanced consolidation today in China in terms of consolidating their existing assets as well as, they have also listed a public company in China. The second is Shangdong; Shangdong is a larger asset given that it's in 17 cities, in Shandong province and we operate in a venture, in a co-ownership in Binzhou. What we are seeing right now is that Shandong is looking for a consolidation as a provincial play probably within the year. Within Hubei itself, I think within six months plus, we will be in discussions with the Hubei authorities, staff, as well as the government of possibly consolidating our 55% ownership into the public company in which – they're using us a local Asia consolidation play.

David Kratochvil - Euro Pacific Capital: Do you see Cablecom owning shares of the larger entity or just having the other portion that you guys don't own, the portions of this larger consolidation?

Clive Ng - Executive Chairman: I think we're trying to keep our options open. Our view from management would be that it would make probably better economics if we were to take our share and subscribe to the local A share, given that the multiples of cable assets in China are much higher. If you take a comparable as an example, Beijing Gehua, which is traded on the Shanghai Stock Exchange that's about 3 million subscribers and their market cap is about $1.9 billion.

David Kratochvil - Euro Pacific Capital: That's little bit higher than Cablecom's?

Clive Ng - Executive Chairman: Yeah, a little bit higher. We believe given that we have 1.2 million to 1.3 million subs in our joint venture with Hubei, and given that once Hubei consolidates most of their system, they will be probably a 5 million to 6 million subscriber base, which will be much larger than a Beijing Gehua, and we feel that even if you took our 1.0 to 1.3 million, and our 55% ownership which give us close to 700,000, and you're talking about low range of 2s to 3s to 400 per subs, in terms of valuation. So, that's what we are trying to achieve. It's still negotiating with the government. At some instances they might prefer to buy us out, some instances they might want us to roll our stake in for equity. I think we're trying to maximize our shareholders' value.That's what we hope to do.


David Kratochvil - Euro Pacific Capital: Given the efforts by the government to consolidate things on a provincial level, is it safe to say that the opportunity that was presented to Cablecom a few years ago to acquire these assets, those opportunities really don't exist elsewhere in China, given the rollup of all these smaller operators or do opportunities still exist in other second, third tier cities for expansion?




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posted on Mar, 19 2011 @ 09:16 PM
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Originally posted by RisenAngel77

Originally posted by Cuervo

Originally posted by dontreally
You have to be mentally retarded to not understand that this is all scripted.

Glenn Beck, Dylan Ratigan, are simply spokesman for an agenda that has reached its expression. They are now serving as the 'opposition'. Its all acting, role playing. They are as much involved in whats going on, albeit from the media angle, as the rest of them.



Oh, of course! Because the ridiculous notion of journalists dedicating their education and lives to reporting the news can't possibly have any roots in reality! I mean, if things sometimes were as they appeared, then where would we seat our paranoia? You are right. Only the mentally retarded would believe somebody saying things that ran counter to their own pet conspiracy theories.


You have to understand something. People are frustrated, angered and distrustful and in paranoia. We just found exposed truths that the federal government are criminals. I'd be questioning everyone aswell.

This feels like the movie the trueman show. It's like waking to to an alternate reality.

and even more so scary and this is indeed a scary thought.

This was aired a year ago. and someone quoted me earlier when they noticed said date and posted it. another person came and wrote "And not a single f*** was given that day".


These words are shockingly true. How could this have aired and yet this went unnoticed till now? what the hell was humanity doing on that day? X_X

it is frightening how the illusion was placed on us, it was soo powerful that the news went unnoticed
edit on 19-3-2011 by RisenAngel77 because: (no reason given)


I totally get it. I'm pissed, too. What annoys me, however, is when somebody in the MSM finally steps up and agrees with us peons and then said peons assume they must be a shill because it looks like they are doing something right. I just wish people would get over themselves and their fears and just at least sometimes allow the possibility that somebody out there with power is on our side.

Not everybody is in the Illuminati or the Oprah Book Club of Skull and Bones or whatever the new thing is. Sometimes they are just people.



posted on Mar, 19 2011 @ 09:26 PM
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Good video though I don't see this exposing much damning info for the bankers. I guess I'm waiting for the day when they invite Jordan Maxwell on .
Also if you listen to the statement at 10:30 he says America is a Democracy which is false and a lie. So while people think that the bankers are being exposed they fail to see the bankers have won so far by setting up a Federal Reserve type Central Bank in over 150 countries. Also I want to leave the pro Democracy people with short educational clip.



posted on Mar, 19 2011 @ 09:31 PM
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Originally posted by boondock-saint
geez folks, just so you know that Ratigan show
is a year old. Here is the original upload
to youtube

www.youtube.com...

April 2010

and it has been posted on ATS before with
it's own thread.

And TPTB are still in power and in the banks.


I think this and similar threads should be taken down once research shows they are old and/or false! I
reading a long thread with dozens/hundreds of individual speculations that have already been proven WRONG without doubt by a previous post. (It happens so often!!!!!)

Such is the case here, thank you from all of us who research and read. UGH!
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posted on Mar, 19 2011 @ 09:33 PM
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Sadly, Alan Greyson was not reelected and his last day was January 3, 2011.
No surprise there


In office
January 3, 2009 – January 3, 2011
Preceded by Ric Keller
Succeeded by Daniel Webster



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posted on Mar, 19 2011 @ 10:12 PM
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Exposed by mainstream news. As if mainstream news can be trusted. They either ignore or sensationalise. What they show depends on money and hooks for news not truth. If you haven't realized that in your lifetime your on another planet.

Thats the generality and I agree there are some soruces I would trust. ATS is not one of them. Utube isn't either for those that follow that crap.



posted on Mar, 19 2011 @ 11:44 PM
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You are right. Only the mentally retarded would believe somebody saying things that ran counter to their own pet conspiracy theories.


Who controls MSNBC? Dylan Ratigan? Do you think he has the wheel in reporting what he does?

Come on. This isnt paranoia. Its common sense! This is how the world works. Dylan Ratigan, along with Gleen Beck, are conmen. Does that make them evil? depends on who you are. To a relativist, what their doing may infact be good, and contingent on some greater, esoteric idea for the future. This may involve most people in Media, government, business, so its a very persuasive opinion for them im sure.

This may be how the world has worked for hundreds, maybe thousands of years.



posted on Mar, 19 2011 @ 11:49 PM
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This is what you call cognitive dissonance. You cant bear the truth. That might also be assisted by your overall lack of knowledge.

You need to read basic schools of philosophy. Like Machiavelli, or Hobbes, or most of the political theoriests in the modern age. My view, although esoteric (difficult to understand) is the correct one.

Answer my question though. Does Dylan Ratigan have the right to speak as he does? You dont think his contract prohibits him from just saying what wants? There is a heirarchy. The Executives direct the producers, and the producers the staff (and host). They are all a team. I know the media likes to dramatize the picture as Tom Brokaw, or Dan Rathers running the show. Truth is, they are actors. Well informed, educated actors im sure. Their purpose is to be to us a father, patriarchial figure. Someone you can turn to for the truth. He is on "your side". Its all demagoguery. Ugly? Yes. Evil. Yes. Is this how the world works? YES!
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posted on Mar, 20 2011 @ 01:37 AM
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O seems this is an old video and nothing has come of it, typical. Wallstreet and the bankers will never have to pay for their crimes and america will continue its downward spiral where the rich become richer and the poor become poorer just because people are so obsessed with anti-"socialism" brainwashing propaganda that they think its ok to give away all your wealth and rights to corporations rather than a govt, who really end up getting their fair share as well anyway "democracy" and "capitalism" or not, so we give away our rights and wealth twice as much "yay".
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posted on Mar, 20 2011 @ 01:56 AM
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Originally posted by Newbomb Turk
My initial knee-jerk response is "Right on! It's about freaking time...yea!!" but yet....a part of me can't help but think...why now all of a sudden? Stuff that WE have known for some time now, why the mainstream now? Anyone care to speculate?

Maybe it's because the word has been spreading over the years on sites like ATS, Infowars, Prisonplanet and the Coast to Coast AM radio show. Well, ATS and the others are not only still in existence, they are somewhat thriving I would imagine, with increased membership and listernership. Word of mouth, grass-roots spreading of what's really going on.

It's trickling into MSM (mainstream media) *finally.* Yet realize that this is only on MSNBC. Now, once we see it on Fox News, then that will be a truly momentous bell-ringing. IF FOX NEWS runs with this, then the floodgates will be opening. Right now, I imagine the demographic watcher of Fox News would not view MSNBC or CNN with credibility. To the *average* Fox News viewer, other networks are LIBERAL. And to them, in a loose generalization based upon what has been said on Fox News itself, "liberals" are evil, stupid and in favor of the the Anitchrist Obama.

When they and the rest open their perceptions to what's really going on, then they'll realize that the "banksters" are greedy, corrupt and more brazen than ever. I highly recommend reading a book by Joseph P. Farrell, called "Babylon's Banksters." It's an eye-opening and sobering account of what's going on as well. He's an Oxford educated academician, highly credible, well-spoken (and written) researcher who is exposing, unveiling and lifting the facade around us along with Jim Marrs, Richard Hoagland, Mike Bara and Richard Dolan. Here's a link to his book complete with reviews: www.amazon.com...=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1300603826&sr=8-1.

Between ATS. Coast to Coast AM and authors like the ones I listed, specifally J.P. Farrell, the truth is working its way into MSM. Even the end credits of "The Other Guys" is a fantastic, animated presentation of what's going on (you might be able to find a more complete one, but this less than 3 min vid captures A LOT:



posted on Mar, 20 2011 @ 02:18 AM
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Originally posted by Screwed
Yeah, first reaction is to stand up and shout at the top of your lungs, "RIGHT THE F ON"!!!

But,

If the mainstream media is reporting it, you were meant to hear it.
The MSM reports what they are TOLD to report and you'd better believe that they NEVER
report what they are told NOT to report.

In the event a reporter decides to go against the grain and report things they don't want us to hear,
you'll find said reporter Without a job or worse.

Here is how you can tell if this is something to get excited about or worried about.

If the reporter loses his job or commits suicide within the next couple of weeks,
get excited, change is coming and people are taking their country back.

If the reporter gets to keep his job and then gets promoted,
Get worried, VERY worried.


you just signed this guys death warrant. regardless if he was working for TPTB to purposefully spread this info to educate or enrage now in order to authenticate the story they have to kill this poor slub. because if they dont then the conspiracy nuts like us would have worked out their plan. regardless this has me more worried than the air raids on Libya or the rioting in the middle east.

IF THE MSM ARE REPORTING THIS OPENLY IT MEANS THE PENNY IS ABOUT TO DROP.

hang on boys and girls its going to be a bumpy ride. man 2011 has been action packed hasnt it?



posted on Mar, 20 2011 @ 02:34 AM
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Old news this show is from last year and it hasn't changed a thing. Course it is still good information. However how come it is pretty much forgotten now and everyone is looking for a recovery... People have the attention span of nats. Must be the fluoride...




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