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big oil is purposely overblowing the nuclear radiation issue

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posted on Mar, 18 2011 @ 03:49 PM
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pay close attention to the media coverage of the japan nuclear power problems. they mix in coverage with stories of Chernobal. I just watched a clip of msnbc showing the devastation of Chernobal, empty schools and carnivals - tugs at the heart.

they cover stories such as radiation being detected in Chicago airport. little is mentioned about the fact that radiation is detected ALL THE TIME at airports. get an x-ray and chances are within 2 days if you enter an airport they will pick up residual radiation.

the media is controlled and owned by big oil. the agenda is clear. kill any funding by the united states to build more nuclear power plants. currently the US gets 20% of its power from nuclear energy. a nation like France gets 86% of its power from nuclear energy. imagine if the usa had that amount coming from nuclear energy. wars over oil wouldnt be necessary

the slanted coverage keeps bringing in experts to discuss nuclear power safety. their bias is clear.




posted on Mar, 18 2011 @ 04:07 PM
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Originally posted by admriker444
the slanted coverage keeps bringing in experts to discuss nuclear power safety. their bias is clear.
Most of the other threads I've read accuse the media of "underblowing" or downplaying the danger. This is the first thread I've seen accusing the media of "overblowing" the issue.

Thanks for this. We needed some yin to balance out the yang.

I was watching major cable news station, and they had two experts on in a row, and one guy seemed to downplay the seriousness and the next guy seemed to say the opposite, that it was much more serious than the guy before him claimed.

So basically they expressed both points of view from two different experts. The media owners aren't nuclear physicists, so they don't know which expert was right. They both were right from a certain point of view. The first guy's point was there's no reason for people in the US to panic as it won't have any major impact on the US.

The second guys point was that it's very serious and the people in Japan near the facility could be injured. I think they're both right. It's a complex issue and the details matter, sweeping generalizations about it being overblown or downplayed don't mean much.



posted on Mar, 18 2011 @ 04:19 PM
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It don’t think oil companies would try to rattle the eco chain given BP and the gulf disaster

What that and the problems in Japan highlight is that we need to put more restrictions and have a better watchdog to oversee our energy producers and make it illegal for any of our politicians to be in receipt of money be it directly or indirectly.

They make big profits from us and as much as we need them they need us. It's time we had open information and more say in how they are controlled and more choice about how, who and what supplies our needs.



posted on Mar, 18 2011 @ 04:22 PM
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Originally posted by Arbitrageur

Originally posted by admriker444
the slanted coverage keeps bringing in experts to discuss nuclear power safety. their bias is clear.
Most of the other threads I've read accuse the media of "underblowing" or downplaying the danger. This is the first thread I've seen accusing the media of "overblowing" the issue.

Thanks for this. We needed some yin to balance out the yang.

I was watching major cable news station, and they had two experts on in a row, and one guy seemed to downplay the seriousness and the next guy seemed to say the opposite, that it was much more serious than the guy before him claimed.

So basically they expressed both points of view from two different experts. The media owners aren't nuclear physicists, so they don't know which expert was right. They both were right from a certain point of view. The first guy's point was there's no reason for people in the US to panic as it won't have any major impact on the US.

The second guys point was that it's very serious and the people in Japan near the facility could be injured. I think they're both right. It's a complex issue and the details matter, sweeping generalizations about it being overblown or downplayed don't mean much.


i wouldnt call 24/7 coverage of japan's nuclear issue downplaying the issue.

and even if they have experts saying its safe for us, the agenda remains. they ask the question "is this a danger ?" and "should we be worried ?" this puts the same questions in the mind of the public and thats the point. the blah blah blah experts on AFTER the question is asked is ignored. the fact that potassium iodine is selling out in the united states proves my theory

and right after the media has an expert on that says there is no danger, they show a recent trip to Chernobal - they show empty schools, empty carnivals, they interview a woman who cries telling of how she lost her family - message clear, nuclear power is scary

the media while appearing neutral has created the debate when there should be none. nobody in the media questioned if it was a good idea to end oil drilling. so why are they questioning the safety of an industry that has a stellar record of safety compared to oil
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posted on Mar, 18 2011 @ 04:24 PM
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Not a lot of coverage of that refinery that went up in flames in the first hours of the quake,anyone ever hear what happened there?Basically oil and nuclear are all in bed together,a sordid flea infested king size bed.



posted on Mar, 18 2011 @ 04:26 PM
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Originally posted by admriker444
pay close attention to the media coverage of the japan nuclear power problems. they mix in coverage with stories of Chernobal.


Chernobal??...I think you mean Chernobyl :

The Chernobyl disaster was a nuclear accident that occurred on 26 April 1986 at the Chernobyl Nuclear Power Plant in the Ukrainian SSR (now Ukraine)



posted on Mar, 18 2011 @ 04:28 PM
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I think the general point is a good one. And not just oil, but Coal, who supply the majority of power in the US.

Personally, I dont support nuclear power of any kind. I think we need to consume LESS power in general to survive into the future.

But OF COURSE Nuclear energy's competition will look to benefit from a disaster like this, just as with any business.



posted on Mar, 18 2011 @ 04:40 PM
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The way we pay for energy needs to be addressed.

At the moment the energy producers cannot loose. If we cut back on our consumption they put the prices up.

If we increase our consumption market forces put the prices up. We cut back and they put their prices up to maintain their profits.

This needs to change but our leaders are on the tit just as much as the energy providers so the status quo is maintained and we pay our way into hell.



posted on Mar, 18 2011 @ 05:03 PM
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That's a load of BS.

If anything "Big Oil" are probably crapping their pants because there isn't enough oil left for all these nations to scrap nuclear power and return to fossil fuels. We as a globe are stretched very very thin as it is.



posted on Mar, 18 2011 @ 05:43 PM
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Originally posted by Nomad451
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That's a load of BS.

If anything "Big Oil" are probably crapping their pants because there isn't enough oil left for all these nations to scrap nuclear power and return to fossil fuels. We as a globe are stretched very very thin as it is.



there is plenty of oil. scarcity is a myth and artificial. besides the massive oil fields left untapped, current oil fields are refilling.

www.prisonplanet.com...

oil may not even be created by decaying animals as once thought. there are wells being discovered to deep within the earth for life to exist

freeenergynews.com...

the elite's economic system relies on artifical scarcity. it allows them to keep 3rd world nations in endless poverty. it lets them create massive wealth which gives them total control over politicians.

abundance is bad for business



posted on Mar, 18 2011 @ 06:21 PM
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Mate, I've been studying peak oil for years and your "refilling" is called seepage.

Like I'm going to listen to what "PrisonPlanet" has to say about Peak Oil and abiotic oil.


A.J is a scamming fear mongerer in the conspiracy theory business. It's his job to make everything a conspiracy! He gets paid for it.

Maybe one out of a hundred oil wells will slowly re-gain oil. This is because there is more oil near by, very deep, that slowly bleeds into the reservoir. In contrary to what Alex Jones has to say it's a very small amount.

Certainly not enough to keep up with current and ever expanding oil consumption. Do yourself a massive favor....

Don't listen to A.J.
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posted on Mar, 18 2011 @ 06:53 PM
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I'm confused why this is about 'Big oil' (is there little oil?) being discussed in a thread about energy production.

How many places power their grid with oil? Please edumacate me.
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posted on Mar, 19 2011 @ 09:06 PM
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the scare tactics are continuing. now we are hearing frightening reports "oh no the food has been contaminated"

spinach and milk are showing signs of radiation contamination..

and the mainstream media is running with it, making sure we hear about this insignifigant contamination.

communitypress.cincinnati.com...

"someone drinking the tainted milk for one year would consume as much radiation as in a CT scan; for the spinach, it would be one-fifth of a CT scan."



posted on Mar, 19 2011 @ 09:16 PM
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I know this is a conspiracy site, but why does everything have to involve Big Oil?

The reality is the nuclear disaster IS that bad. Don't try ad down-play it - that is the worst thing you can possibly do.

They are finding it harder and harder to cover up the extent of this with each passing day. The truth will out eventually, and it will be bigger than anyone imagined.

It is unhelpful to suggest Big Oil is hyping it up.


As it is, they are saying that consuming milk at the average rate for a year will expose you to the equivalent of a CT scan, or approx. 30 mSv. Note that this is far higher than the dose from an x-ray. Eating spinach for a year (again, at average consumption rates) will expose you to 1/5th of the dose of a CT scan.

The issue is radioactive iodide (131-I). Where does it come from? There is only one place - as the result of a chain reaction. Regardless of what they claim about gases - fissionable by-products made it out of the reactors. The Japanese dodged a bullet with the wind direction, but the world may yet pay the price.
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posted on Mar, 19 2011 @ 10:15 PM
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3 mile island had a complete meltdown and nobody died. this is a non-incident being hyped up by a media that is owned by big oil, period end of story. their goal is to get goverments to eliminate nuclear power usage. imagine how many trillions more they could make if the united states, japan, and france shut down all nuclear power plants.

and despite nobody dying from 3 mile island, the us stopped building nuclear power plants. had that not happened, perhaps the dependence on oil would be far less than it is. currently we generate 20% of our total energy from nuclear power. had construction not halted, maybe that figure might be 50%. imagine if it reached france's lvl of 86% we would have no need to involve ourselves in iraq

the japan nuclear disaster is also a great distraction from yet another country being attacked by the bankrupt goverment of the united states. people are much more concerned about a plume cloud of radiation hitting their town than missiles and planes bombing civilians in Libya.

a ct scan isnt going to kill you. and neither will some minute amount of radiation. so why are they overhyping food slightly tainted. and fyi, we already irradiate some foods purposely during processing.

I find it ironic that on a conspiracy site people are looking in the wrong direction. every thread here assumes some massive coverup about the japan nuclear reactors. it reminds me of the h1 flu vaccines last yr which came to nothing.

the fact is the mainstream media in the united states are owned by the very same people who own big oil. they have a vested interest in keeping the public scared.
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posted on Mar, 19 2011 @ 11:27 PM
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Originally posted by Nomad451
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A.J is a scamming fear mongerer in the conspiracy theory business. It's his job to make everything a conspiracy! He gets paid for it.

AJ was the first to tell the truth about the MOX plutonium fuel used in Fukushima’s unit 3, the first to acknowledge the amount of radioactive fuel at Fukushima DWARFS Chernobyl and the only one who's reporting on the continuing mainstream media disinfo campaign.

BTW, Alex Jones is also the only one who bought the last remaining stockpile of potassium iodide tablets and sold them to his listeners at cost.

If this is what you call "scamming" and "fear-mongering," then I'll take all the scamming and fear-mongering he's got!

And if you have such disdain for "conspiracy theories," then why are you on ATS?


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posted on Mar, 19 2011 @ 11:37 PM
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My experience is that Alex Jones was the first to tell the truth about the MOX plutonium fuel used in Fukushima’s unit 3, the first to mention the amount of radioactive fuel at Fukushima DWARFS Chernobyl and the only one who's reporting on the mainstream media's disinfo campaign.


really?? maybe check out a few threads like this one...www.abovetopsecret.com I think AJ was a little behind on some of this



posted on Mar, 19 2011 @ 11:42 PM
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3 mile island had a complete meltdown and nobody died. this is a non-incident being hyped up by a media that is owned by big oil, period end of story


Three mile Island never had containment breech...just a coolant loss....
Japan we have several containment failures...and already had deaths...This passed TMI in the first hours of the event.



posted on Mar, 19 2011 @ 11:52 PM
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Except for neglecting to mention 600,000 spent fuel rods, you did great.



posted on Mar, 19 2011 @ 11:54 PM
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actually..I did mention that number...3rd quote down from the top

www.abovetopsecret.com
thanks

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