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Modern Feminist Narcissism and the Sperm Bank

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posted on Mar, 19 2011 @ 04:56 AM
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Originally posted by StigShen

Originally posted by SearchLightsInc

...Also, thanks to the feminist movement, women can now leave abusive relationships and not suffer destitution, which i think is wonderful.


Oh great. So freedom for women, equality, is living off some man's paycheck.


Hahaha, silly you, what i meant was with women receiving equal pay, they can now provide for themselves, Therefore not suffering financialy without a man to take care of them. Thats what i think is wonderful. You have to remember that in the past, women were trapped in their relationships and "Gender dutys" by such forms of no financial independence, not to mention, physical abuse.
The feminist movement helped liberate women from such lifestyles, but at the same time, didnt force them to use their new libertys.




posted on Mar, 19 2011 @ 04:57 AM
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Now before we get too far off track here. I am in now way conding child sexual abuse.

But did you know that in NY state, if you are 16 years old, and you have sexual relations of any sort with another 16 year old, you can be tried as an adult for sexual assault/rape of a minor?



posted on Mar, 19 2011 @ 05:01 AM
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Originally posted by SearchLightsInc

Originally posted by StigShen

Originally posted by SearchLightsInc

...Also, thanks to the feminist movement, women can now leave abusive relationships and not suffer destitution, which i think is wonderful.


Oh great. So freedom for women, equality, is living off some man's paycheck.


Hahaha, silly you, what i meant was with women receiving equal pay, they can now provide for themselves, Therefore not suffering financialy without a man to take care of them. Thats what i think is wonderful. You have to remember that in the past, women were trapped in their relationships and "Gender dutys" by such forms of no financial independence, not to mention, physical abuse.
The feminist movement helped liberate women from such lifestyles, but at the same time, didnt force them to use their new libertys.


Actually, statistics prove that men were murdered by their wives much more frequently in years past. And the most comprehensive studies show that woman are at least, or more physically violent than men in intimate relationships.

But for the record, I have no problem with equal pay for equal work. However, in my experience, woman are shown favoritism in job placement and salary. Your notion that women are underpaid is a fallacy perpetuated by the Feminist agenda.



posted on Mar, 19 2011 @ 05:04 AM
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Originally posted by StigShen
reply to post by SearchLightsInc
 


Now before we get too far off track here. I am in now way conding child sexual abuse.

But did you know that in NY state, if you are 16 years old, and you have sexual relations of any sort with another 16 year old, you can be tried as an adult for sexual assault/rape of a minor?


I understand that your speaking hypotheticly

As for that law, no i did not know that (I'm from the UK)

What are the chances of that happening? When you think of child abuse, i'm sure many people would see the abused as a child rather then a minor.
Two consenting 16year olds having sex? Well, i'll let their parents have the final say on that, however, an adult having sexual relations with a child who is to young to make a mature decision about the situation i have a HUGGEEE problem with. I'm sure their parents would have to.



posted on Mar, 19 2011 @ 05:09 AM
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Originally posted by SearchLightsInc

Originally posted by StigShen
reply to post by SearchLightsInc
 


Now before we get too far off track here. I am in now way conding child sexual abuse.

But did you know that in NY state, if you are 16 years old, and you have sexual relations of any sort with another 16 year old, you can be tried as an adult for sexual assault/rape of a minor?


I understand that your speaking hypotheticly

As for that law, no i did not know that (I'm from the UK)

What are the chances of that happening? When you think of child abuse, i'm sure many people would see the abused as a child rather then a minor.
Two consenting 16year olds having sex? Well, i'll let their parents have the final say on that, however, an adult having sexual relations with a child who is to young to make a mature decision about the situation i have a HUGGEEE problem with. I'm sure their parents would have to.


the law in the US makes no such distinction. If you are 16, or even 17 or 18 and you have sex with someone who is your peer, 16, 15, you are a sex offender for life, on the registry.



posted on Mar, 19 2011 @ 05:11 AM
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Originally posted by StigShen

Originally posted by SearchLightsInc

Originally posted by StigShen

Originally posted by SearchLightsInc

...Also, thanks to the feminist movement, women can now leave abusive relationships and not suffer destitution, which i think is wonderful.


Oh great. So freedom for women, equality, is living off some man's paycheck.


Hahaha, silly you, what i meant was with women receiving equal pay, they can now provide for themselves, Therefore not suffering financialy without a man to take care of them. Thats what i think is wonderful. You have to remember that in the past, women were trapped in their relationships and "Gender dutys" by such forms of no financial independence, not to mention, physical abuse.
The feminist movement helped liberate women from such lifestyles, but at the same time, didnt force them to use their new libertys.


Actually, statistics prove that men were murdered by their wives much more frequently in years past. And the most comprehensive studies show that woman are at least, or more physically violent than men in intimate relationships.

But for the record, I have no problem with equal pay for equal work. However, in my experience, woman are shown favoritism in job placement and salary. Your notion that women are underpaid is a fallacy perpetuated by the Feminist agenda.


You have a link to these stats? And in the past, women where underpaid and actually went on strike in this country as men in the same factory doing unskilled work where being paid more then women who did skilled work. See Here
Women have been abused for labour for centurys, now we live in a time when they can earn the same wage as a man for doing the same job. Equal pay for equal work? Thats fine with me


Just a 2nd note on those stats your reffering to, do you accept the possibility that domestic violence was under reported in previous decades due to lack of help from both the law and other charities dedicated to helping women leave violent relationships?



posted on Mar, 19 2011 @ 05:13 AM
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They have #ty laws about smoking weed to as i hear it. However, what are the chances that an 18 year old woulld be prosecuted for sleeping with a 15 year old?



posted on Mar, 19 2011 @ 05:16 AM
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Originally posted by SearchLightsInc


You have a link to these stats? And in the past, women where underpaid and actually went on strike in this country as men in the same factory doing unskilled work where being paid more then women who did skilled work. See Here
Women have been abused for labour for centurys, now we live in a time when they can earn the same wage as a man for doing the same job. Equal pay for equal work? Thats fine with me


Just a 2nd note on those stats your reffering to, do you accept the possibility that domestic violence was under reported in previous decades due to lack of help from both the law and other charities dedicated to helping women leave violent relationships?

An
Women fought for and won equal pay. Battle over.

Men are FAR less likely to report that they are the victim of DV. And even if they do, they are far less likely to get relief form the justice system. In the US, if a woman claims to be in fear of a man, the police can put the man our of his own home, even if he is the victim of a criminal assault by his wife/girlfriend.

Here is my supporting data on domestic violence ratios...


SUMMARY: This bibliography examines 275 scholarly investigations: 214 empirical studies and 61 reviews and/or analyses, which demonstrate that women are as physically aggressive, or more aggressive, than men in their relationships with their spouses or male partners. The aggregate sample size in the reviewed studies exceeds 365,000.

www.csulb.edu...



posted on Mar, 19 2011 @ 05:18 AM
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Originally posted by SearchLightsInc
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They have #ty laws about smoking weed to as i hear it. However, what are the chances that an 18 year old woulld be prosecuted for sleeping with a 15 year old?


Quite high.

And in fact. The laws are so biased here in NY, that a male rape victim was ordered to pay child support to his rapist. His family was also denied custody, despite the fact that the mother resided with her own father who had pistol-whipped her young sister.



posted on Mar, 19 2011 @ 05:26 AM
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Originally posted by StigShen

Originally posted by SearchLightsInc


You have a link to these stats? And in the past, women where underpaid and actually went on strike in this country as men in the same factory doing unskilled work where being paid more then women who did skilled work. See Here
Women have been abused for labour for centurys, now we live in a time when they can earn the same wage as a man for doing the same job. Equal pay for equal work? Thats fine with me


Just a 2nd note on those stats your reffering to, do you accept the possibility that domestic violence was under reported in previous decades due to lack of help from both the law and other charities dedicated to helping women leave violent relationships?




An Women fought for and won equal pay. Battle over.




Indeed, women now dont risk destitution if they leave a relationship as they can become their own wage earner. Thats the point i was trying to make




Men are FAR less likely to report that they are the victim of DV.




Men are also more likely to leave abusive relationships early on, thus their need to report violence is only over a small passage of time. You dont report a crime months after its occurance do you?





SUMMARY: This bibliography examines 275 scholarly investigations: 214 empirical studies and 61 reviews and/or analyses, which demonstrate that women are as physically aggressive, or more aggressive, than men in their relationships with their spouses or male partners. The aggregate sample size in the reviewed studies exceeds 365,000.

www.csulb.edu...





Fair enough



posted on Mar, 19 2011 @ 05:29 AM
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I find it incredibly hard to believe that the chances are quite high. Tis unheard of in the UK, an 18 year old sleeping with a 15 year old? That wouldnt even make it to court, not in the society we live in when its perfectly normal for a 15 year old to want to get laid and may prefer someone who seems more mature.



posted on Mar, 19 2011 @ 05:30 AM
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Originally posted by SearchLightsInc



Fair enough


I thank you for conceding respectfully.

But just for the record, as I have said before, I am no misogynist. It is my genuine belief that women have been stripped of their inherent natural ability by this modern feminist agenda.



posted on Mar, 19 2011 @ 05:32 AM
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Originally posted by SearchLightsInc
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I find it incredibly hard to believe that the chances are quite high. Tis unheard of in the UK, an 18 year old sleeping with a 15 year old? That wouldnt even make it to court, not in the society we live in when its perfectly normal for a 15 year old to want to get laid and may prefer someone who seems more mature.


Happens all the time here. 18, 19, charged frequently and sent to prison. Not females though. They get a pass every time.



posted on Mar, 19 2011 @ 05:39 AM
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I had two classmates in high school who went to prison for a rape they did not commit. One has since been exonerated by witness testimony after serving 15 years in prison. The court will not hear the exoneration testimony though. So he remains on the sex offender registry. The other was not so "lucky." He was murdered in the youth facility 3 months after he arrived.



posted on Mar, 19 2011 @ 05:39 AM
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Originally posted by StigShen

Originally posted by SearchLightsInc
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I find it incredibly hard to believe that the chances are quite high. Tis unheard of in the UK, an 18 year old sleeping with a 15 year old? That wouldnt even make it to court, not in the society we live in when its perfectly normal for a 15 year old to want to get laid and may prefer someone who seems more mature.


Happens all the time here. 18, 19, charged frequently and sent to prison. Not females though. They get a pass every time.


In NY you say? I wanna look into that



posted on Mar, 19 2011 @ 05:53 AM
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Yup, in NY. More frequently in NY in fact. Less common in rural areas. Not to sound redneck.



posted on Mar, 19 2011 @ 05:57 AM
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I can confirm this as an ex NYer. Most of the times I know of it happenning, it goes a little something like this. Daddy finds out daddy's little girl isn't such a little girl anymore and calls the police. Even if they are the same age, the guy still gets charged with statutory. I am a country boy though, and in the area I was in average age to lose virginity was around 12. I will read and comment on the article itself later when I wake up

edit on Sat, 19 Mar 2011 05:58:38 -0500 by TKDRL because: (no reason given)



posted on Mar, 19 2011 @ 06:12 AM
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Okay, first post but here we go. I read some of your article, I couldn't read all of it, it just made me sad.

You do realize that what you view as feminism ISN'T actually feminism right? It's called misandry and us feminists do not associate ourselves with it. Just as some men won't associate themselves with misogynists, we won't associate ourselves with misandrists. Though behind either line of those two extreme views is either pure ignorance or possibly an understandable situation, who knows. The latter deserving sympathy in both cases. The former being the one you want to dissociate from.


Feminism is about equality, not bettering anything with XY chromosomes. We don't want to see see you all on your hands and knees, ball and chain on your leg as we whip you and laugh about how wonderful we are while we revel in whatever super secret 'agenda' we have.

We're open with what we want, a society were we aren't discriminated against. Sure we HAVE come along way there is no denying it but we also have a long way to go. Look at how rape is still viewed: "She was asking for it" That isn't a fair society, shifting blame and victim blaming. So we are still battling some things. Maybe it's hard to see if you're not a woman yourself. You sometimes have to experience the prejudice before you can understand it.

Have you ever thought about just WHY some women choose not to be with a man? No, you can't solely blame the woman for it. A relationship doesn't just fail because of her alone. Sometimes we are abused by men, sometimes we're cheated on, sometimes we just have bad experiences and don't wish to go through it again. We are not going against our nature and we aren't destroying anything. I won't say some relationships aren't destroyed by us women, but the whole "I don't need a man" is NOT down to us alone. But it's not selfish to decide something for yourself like that no matter what the reasons. As it wouldn't be selfish if a man decided he wanted nothing to do with women. It's all about choice right?

Aslong as a child is brought up with love, then they will be fine. It doesn't matter if it's a single parent, a widow, a gay couple, a lesbian couple, transgender, ANYTHING. Love, understanding and being open minded is the key. You could have a mother, father, the whole classic 2.4 children situation and still it would not necessarily mean a stable outcome for the kid. To think traditional roles are key in creating some utopian society is rather an archaic viewpoint and if anything it's THAT view that will hurt future generations.



posted on Mar, 19 2011 @ 06:16 AM
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Your personal view of feminism is not the social, nor legal norm. Modern feminism is militant and has nothing to do with equality, nor genuine feminism.

True feminism doesn't mean trying to be a man.



posted on Mar, 19 2011 @ 06:19 AM
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Originally posted by SomeEye

Aslong as a child is brought up with love, then they will be fine.




No, it won't. You're not 14 years old anymore.



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