reply to post by CIAGypsy
You, are just pushing your own dogma.
What makes you think your views are in any way better than mine?
Also, where in the non Jewish world does the kabbalah exist? Which ancient text propounds a system as comprehensive, and complete, as the Jewish
It sure is easy to pretend that "Oh...the Kabbalah is Babylonian in origin", yet have no proof to back that up. Helena Blavataksy makes this assertion
in the secret doctrine.
Just because an esoteric philosophy exists, doesnt mean that all are the same. Each people had their own understanding of reality, and they may even
have had a doctrine similar to Kabbalah. Is there proof for it? No. Its conjecture.
Kabbalah is amazing. Its amazing enough for me to look at Judaism as something very special. How come I can come to this understanding, and believe
myself to be acting very reasonably, yet you justify a myth with no archeological evidence of Kabbalah being a relic of the ancient world, equally
known to all. That is untenable, because there is no evidence for that.
On the other hand, you do appreciatee the Kabbalah enough to consider it a quintessential system or 'tool' in ones understandanding of reality, and
spiritual development. I know why you feel that way. I feel that way and pay special tribute to the people who are responsible for this wisdom. I
therefore consider they very wise. Then combine this with the unfathomable depth of the Hebrew language, the renown of the Hebrewe Bible, influence of
the Hebraic Religion, and innordinate influence in the modern world, and you have to admit that there is something extraordinary about the Jewish
This doesnt make us less than. It only proves the truth that G-d entrusted the Jews with a religion that was meant to guide all mankind. One people
accepted this purpose at Sinai, and one people have endured a painful history yet have managed to overcome, and like a self sustaining organism,
Im a gentile and i see this relationship similar to that of a president, and his people. The president is considered as equal as anyone else. Nothing
makes him fundamentally more important, or his life more valuable than anyone else. He has a great responsibility. THAT is the difference between him
and us. That is the difference between the Jew and the Gentile. Any gentile can join the company, and become a Jew. So theres no special 'elitist'
status, because any of us can join it, become a scholar and be reckoned as the wisest of the world.
I dont do it because i understand and respect this relartionship. I do not believe a genile is any less loved by G-d than a Jew is. I think G-ds love
for each of us is fundamentally beyong qualification. He only knows why I exist. I dont know. I only know that a Jew is a Jew and i am a gentile. To
US, it appears that they may be considered 'better' than us, but from G-ds perspective, the top beam in the ladder is as important as the lowest beam.
Each one enables it to fullfill its collective purpose.
This is a fact of reality. There are rich, and there are poor. There are the fortunate, and unfortunate, in health, finances, intellectual ability,
etc. Every quality has its quantity of expression in this world. So why would human society be any different? And why would i consider someone less
gifted intellectually than myself, as inferior to me? He has something I dont have. I may be able to attain a higher level in society, but that means
NOTHING spiritually. Spiritually, we are all in the same boat, apart of the same collective Shekinah. Only on the outside, in this world. and in our
bodies, and society, do we appear so multifaceted.
Therefore all of us are the same, though some of us have a more correct picture of reality. Some of us experience a closer connection with G-d and
that in the bigger picture doesnt suggest anything about G-d love for any of us as being greater than the most lowly.
With all that said, this does not justify the worth of those who are willfully obnoxious and evil and deliberately work to undue, and destroy instead
of doing good and being constructive. G-d does not love, and indeed he tells us that in the Torah, which agrees with human reason, those who seek to
destroy others, nature, and their ownselves. They have no appreciation for life, and therefore they do not deserve it.
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