The real reason for the oceans of the world's rising. Not Global Warming.

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posted on Mar, 18 2011 @ 11:03 AM
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reply to post by UnixFE
 


Thanks for that, I actually thought I got something wrong. Still doesn't make it wrong to think this though, like I said at the start the ships are probably the smaller part. There is still bridge pylons, man made islands, sunken ships, loads of rubbish, reclaimed ocean land and much more. I mean the whole of venice is built on pylons isn't it.

Also I think the average weight I found for cargo ships, is much more than the average weight I found.

This one site says there are closer to 10000 ships that can carry 15000 teu's. One TEU's weight is 24000 kg or 24 tonne this would mean full they would be 360000 tonnes. But that seems alot to me. But then again I don't know boats, I'm only learning.




posted on Mar, 18 2011 @ 11:04 AM
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Brilliant :-)

The world needs more people with such creativity and such a brilliant sense of humor and the world would be a better place :-)



posted on Mar, 18 2011 @ 11:12 AM
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I have a headache from looking at the math. You've got some real problems here. For example, you say, "0.0000001 km2= 1 metre" Whoa!!! Way too many zeroes there! Like 4 too many. A meter is 1/1000th of a km. So it's .001. And then you inexplicable sidestep from metric to imperial by using tonnes instead of kilograms With ships, displacement in kg is vastly different than tonnage, which refers to volume or capacity. A cubic meter of saltwater at some salinity and temperature weighs 1025 kg. So already we have an understatement by a factor of ten thousand or so.
And you say the "average cruise ship weighs 100,000 tons. Only the absolute largest ships in the world, the Oasis class ships, approach that figure. See, If Royal Caribbean builds it, 6,400 could come, Boston Globe (February 7, 2006). The Titanic was about half that amount. So figure an average displacement of 60,000 tons. So now you don't need 250 cruise ships as you said. You need about 6 million cruise ships.
And even at that, it's not that simple. As the water rises, the surface area of the ocean gets larger. Of course the depth of this new surface area is not more than 1 meter, but it is still a substantial increase in volume, given the long shorelines of all the world's oceans.



posted on Mar, 18 2011 @ 11:16 AM
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ha ha ha its three less zeros and thats already been covered, nice try but when your gunna attack someone make sure you have the math right yourself. I never claimed to be a mathematician, you obiviously read no more of the thread tho' did you?



posted on Mar, 18 2011 @ 11:17 AM
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The largest cruise ships gross tonnage is around 225 000 tonnes alot more than the littlew old titanic



posted on Mar, 18 2011 @ 11:19 AM
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I don't think so.
Here's why:

Build a ship- materials for the ship come from land thus reducing the mass of the land causing the land to rise. Land rises due to loss of mass therefore the shoreline recedes. Put mass back into the water in the form of a boat and the water level rises due to the displacement of the mass of the boat therefore raising the water level back to where it was to begin with.




posted on Mar, 18 2011 @ 11:19 AM
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A tonne is metric to it equals 1000 kgs or at least it does in Australia does it weigh something else, in other countries? I didn't think it was imperial.



posted on Mar, 18 2011 @ 11:27 AM
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Originally posted by Slipdig1

A cubic metre of salt water weighs 1.027 tonnes. therefore:

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now this is what they say about floating:

The standard definition of floating was first recorded by Archimedes and goes something like this: An object in a fluid experiences an upward force equal to the weight of the fluid displaced by the object. So if a boat weighs 1,000 pounds (or kilograms), it will sink into the water until it has displaced 1,000 pounds (or kilograms) of water. Provided that the boat displaces 1,000 pounds of water before the whole thing is submerged, the boat floats.


So if 1000kgs equals 1 tonne then i was right and you are out by 2 kgs.

I also left the Archimedes principle in there for you which states about weight not volume.



posted on Mar, 18 2011 @ 11:28 AM
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reply to post by abecedarian
 


The land doesn't rise continents are not islands are they. They are connected to the crust, not floating on water. Is this right?



posted on Mar, 18 2011 @ 11:29 AM
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reply to post by Slipdig1
 

Here in Gerany we use the metric system and 1 tonne equals 1000kg ( en.wikipedia.org... ). The word 'tonne' originates in the German language. To make clear that you mean 1000kg you can also speak of a metric tonne.



posted on Mar, 18 2011 @ 11:31 AM
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reply to post by UnixFE
 


Thanks for the clarification, next time I will use metric tonne so as not to confuse all the yankees, (yankees meant friendly not derrogative)



posted on Mar, 18 2011 @ 11:36 AM
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i would think that all the ships in the world would be to the ocean, like a frozen pea would be to a bath.



posted on Mar, 18 2011 @ 11:39 AM
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And you can still think that if you want, no one is stopping you. I didn't know if I'm right or wrong, thats why it's a theory. It may be tho that as we got hungrier we made bigger peas!

edit on 18-3-2011 by Slipdig1 because: i'm a bad grammar user.



posted on Mar, 18 2011 @ 11:45 AM
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That is the most sensible response to this thread yet. All the boats in the world...wouldnt raise the levels in the oceans enough to notice.

And since everyone's talking math...deduct and average just the boats in DRYDOCK or taken out of service for a day or month or permanently all around the earth. That would produce a variable ever-changing around the world, each day, on each sea, river, ocean.

Between the ones ON them...and the ones taken OUT of them every day...I think we'd break even. Take a bath? Displace the water. Get out of the bath? Level returns to starting point. Same with ships.

Now if we were adding and adding and adding to the amount of them on and in the seas..without the thousands of them being taken out each day as well? I think we'd break even.



posted on Mar, 18 2011 @ 11:45 AM
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Originally posted by Slipdig1
reply to post by BrianDamage
 


If you had of read the thread again instead of just coming to ask me that you would have seen this for yourself.


Obviously.
But I got bored part way through and couldn't read anymore.



posted on Mar, 18 2011 @ 11:57 AM
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Good thought, but thats exactly what it is a thought. It isn't a fact or even researched, it is just your thoughts. I don't mind being proven wrong, but I'm not going to be proven wrong by what someone thinks.
edit on 18-3-2011 by Slipdig1 because: (no reason given)



posted on Mar, 18 2011 @ 11:58 AM
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Wow.... That is something that never crossed my mind before. Great imagination coming up with this theory.



posted on Mar, 18 2011 @ 11:59 AM
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reply to post by BrianDamage
 


Yeah I know its not as exciting as Aliens or the world heating up. I'm sorry for that not all conspiracies are grade A movie stuff tho'.



posted on Mar, 18 2011 @ 12:02 PM
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reply to post by mysterioustranger
 


Plus in the OP i said that probably half would not be on the ocean full, but I very much doubt that they have 4500 cargo ships in the dry docks worldwide. That is more unbelievable than my theory.



posted on Mar, 18 2011 @ 12:04 PM
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Originally posted by Slipdig1
reply to post by BrianDamage
 


Yeah I know its not as exciting as Aliens or the world heating up. I'm sorry for that not all conspiracies are grade A movie stuff tho'.


Easy tiger, no need to apologise, it wasn't the subject matter that bored me.






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