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Who made the decision to promote mass Muslim Immigration into Australia?

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posted on Mar, 19 2011 @ 07:30 AM
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"We" as people in this thread who oppose mass immigration.




posted on Mar, 19 2011 @ 07:30 AM
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He is working with you. White trash culture propaganda



posted on Mar, 19 2011 @ 07:31 AM
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I think Maslo was refering to the side's in this thread. Obviously we have trolls and people causing trouble. This thread is derailing and moving waaaay off-topic in many ways.


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posted on Mar, 19 2011 @ 07:31 AM
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I though Deccal's point was pretty obvious, though I appeciate some of those replying may not understand English very well.

The artists listed are not globally well known and compared with, say, Rembrandt or Van Gogh or Turner, might well be described as 'second tier'.

And I agree with his question: why banish Muslims from Australia? Why not Hindus and Christians as well? What's specifically wrong with Muslims?

Some Muslims may well wish to impose their religious values on everyone else, just as some Christians do. There is no difference. And why pick out a religion? What about non Muslim immigrants? Or is it okay if they're a thieving ignorant work-shy Afghan just so long as they don't go to mosque?



posted on Mar, 19 2011 @ 07:33 AM
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This was never meant to be a religious debate. Religion is not the issue here, at least not for me!

The issue is immigration, no matter what country you are from and what religion you claim to be!!


Although once again as per one of my previous posts, for the past couple thousand years, the biggest cause of argument, debate, conflict and war always goes back to religion... no matter which religion. It is always religion.


Thgis topic is about Immigration! Not religion!
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posted on Mar, 19 2011 @ 07:33 AM
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Originally posted by Maslo
reply to post by Garfee
 


"We" as people in this thread who oppose mass immigration.


Good! Now we are coming to the topic.
Do you have problems of mass immigrations in Slovakia?



posted on Mar, 19 2011 @ 07:36 AM
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This topic is about Australia



posted on Mar, 19 2011 @ 07:37 AM
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I am from a non-white country.
Now I wonder, how Maslo connected the immigration problem to the "we", to the "superior culture" and reduced to a distinction bet. "White Culture" against "Middle East Culture".
Now, do you follow Havick, where I am trying to head?
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edit on 19-3-2011 by deccal because: i cant even type, lower race sickness i suffer



posted on Mar, 19 2011 @ 07:39 AM
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Originally posted by deccal
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Sorry i am not white. My english is quite bad. Not 2nd level maybe 2nd class, or whatever. I mean, they have no universal value, only known mostly in Australia, and will be forgotten in the next century.


Here is a list of muslim poets:

en.wikipedia.org...

In addition to being considerably shorter than australian list, I do not see any poets that are not "2nd class" according to your definition here. So much for muslim "culture". Anyway, art is not important to this topic. Culture is a whole way of life, not just art.



posted on Mar, 19 2011 @ 07:39 AM
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The elite decided, the ultra capitalists and zionists. Along with the liberal mass media who support multiculturalism you have a outcome of millions of immigrants. Simple

Also remember that a PEOPLE make a culture, a culture DOES NOT make a people. If white people were all kicked out of Australia tomorrow the country would go back 200 years and eventually it will just be a violent wasteland.

Obviously liberals will disagree but I stopped caring about their opinion long ago...



posted on Mar, 19 2011 @ 07:40 AM
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When Maslo said ''we'' - i am assuming that member was debating with people liek you who are claiming racism when we are not being racist. Well i am definatly not and from what i have read no one else is either.

No one is superior, we are all Human and all equal!



posted on Mar, 19 2011 @ 07:41 AM
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Lets talk about Australia. I want to hear your opinions about the immigration problem there.



posted on Mar, 19 2011 @ 07:43 AM
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Originally posted by Havick007
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When Maslo said ''we'' - i am assuming that member was debating with people liek you who are claiming racism when we are not being racist. Well i am definatly not and from what i have read no one else is either.

No one is superior, we are all Human and all equal!


I urge you to read his post again. When he was saying "we", he meant superiour white culture, and "them" was the Middle East. Ask him if you want



posted on Mar, 19 2011 @ 07:44 AM
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Refer here;


ATS Thread

I have already tried to discuss this. The thread above is mine and if you read through it you will see my stance and mind-set on immigration policies in Australia.



posted on Mar, 19 2011 @ 07:44 AM
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Maslo, stay on this thread. I wanted to talk you and with others something. Therefore I opened the issue of art. But now I have to go out for a while. Maslo, keep your lifestyle meanwhile.



posted on Mar, 19 2011 @ 08:04 AM
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Originally posted by deccal

Originally posted by Maslo
reply to post by Garfee
 


"We" as people in this thread who oppose mass immigration.


Good! Now we are coming to the topic.
Do you have problems of mass immigrations in Slovakia?


In, Slovakia not yet, as far as immigration from the middle east goes, because its almost nonexistent here (which may change with EU policy). But I know from people from western europe that it is really becoming a growing problem there, so I would rather trust them than some EU puppet politicians who claim we need another millions of uneducated and culturally incompatible immigrants while living in their large mansions away from the problem.

And we have our own similar problems with incompatible cultures here, so I know what I am talking about firsthand - gypsy communities. Its a third world country there. People have tried to help them and integrate them since they came in here, using good will, giving them money, even using force (during socialism)... Nothing changed, and the bad conditions and criminality there is skyrocketing, even after almost few hundred years of living amongst the slavic and in last century western culture. Thats how bad the problem becomes if incompatible and inferior culture which is against integration with the majority settles land in large numbers. And all that while they not even have any extremist religion views which encourage that behaviour! From what I have read there I would compare them more to latino immigrants in the US.



posted on Mar, 19 2011 @ 08:10 AM
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Somebody wittingly just gave to this thread the wrong direction. Wasn't at all about race or bashing a specific culture but apparently whoever belongs to the latest made the impossible to put this thread under racism light. So lame. The same pattern over and over. Where no arguments are available, someone is always ready to play the racism card. Few have asked the reason why are so many problems with muslims and why they should be banned (even though banning I don't think is the right word or the solution). Well I'm gonna have to quote myself again by adding that they don't integrate, their mentality is still in the middle ages and they're imposing with their religion and way of living. www.abovetopsecret.com...
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posted on Mar, 19 2011 @ 08:11 AM
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Noone is superior/inferior just because of their race, and everyone should have basic human rights.

But cultures are superior and inferior, cultures are not equal, cultural relativism is the same fallacy as moral relativism. Or are you saying that the culture (and people accepting it) that cherishes basic human rigths is not objecitvelly superior to culture (and people who accept it) that stones adulterers? Are you a nihilist?



posted on Mar, 19 2011 @ 08:19 AM
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Originally posted by deccal
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Lets talk about Australia. I want to hear your opinions about the immigration problem there.


While being a large land mass, very little of it is habitable. Our infrastructure is modern enough and is certainly perfect for us. Policy has allowed quite alot of people from other cultures to move here and call our home, their home, but many have not assimilated or integrated into our society or culture.

There are also many, many students in our cities now and policies implemented by our government allow many of them to become permenant residents if they wish - often they are rude people with no respect for us.

Our public transport is clogged, our roads are jammed, our houses are unaffordable because they buy them all.

Our young cultural identity is under threat and we are angry because we feel helpless and because we believe that if people come to our home and we welcome you, then they should be appreciative and grateful. Not rude and demanding as though we owe them something.




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posted on Mar, 19 2011 @ 08:28 AM
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If your interested in a larger political and immigration check my last reply to that clown...
sorry but yeah that member was a nut and trying to derail the thread. Maybe not on purpose but it happens...

My recent thread is below, i am not trying to promote as such, i dont expect any extra stars and flags etc, the thread has died out out by now. But it makes for some interesting comments and a good read if you have time. It also show's the direction we are heading, and be ''we'' i mean myself and some other like minded inviduals that are not members of this site;


ATS Thread - Soverign Party of Australia


As i said i am not trying to promote my thread but only the idea's within it.

It cover's many issues and more prominently - Immigration




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