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Kiss Your Internet Goodbye!

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posted on Sep, 1 2004 @ 12:28 PM
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Yeah. Sorry to hear it. Now they probly have you on a watchlist.


What forum was it?




posted on Sep, 1 2004 @ 12:42 PM
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Originally posted by EastCoastKid
Yeah. Sorry to hear it. Now they probly have you on a watchlist.


What forum was it?


tribalwar.com...

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Originally Posted by *SPAWN* TEHVUL
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Originally Posted by mznthrope
I heard all the terrorists are in Iraq, so you might want to start looking there.
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Do not forget the White House...Bunch of em there...


BTW: F--- the Police, double F--- the F.B.I.
Thanks for failing us all on 9/11...

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But Mr. Tehvul, how can you f--- us if you don't have an account?

You seem to be missing a profile Mr. Tehvul, and a login.





[edit on 1-9-2004 by staple_mammal]



posted on Sep, 1 2004 @ 04:12 PM
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Well, actually, Internet was first invented for military purposes and at that time it was known as ARPAnet. Then, thanks to continuous efforts of very brilliant people which were then called "hackers" and that resembled vast categories of simple computer enthusiasts or students, created and distributed technology which in the end led to the public internet which we all (for obvious reasons) now know. If anything like what you "anticipated" should ever actually become reality, I guess (or well, I hope) that Americans would eventually "fight for their freedom". It may sound quite stupid, but all of this really makes me think about what John Titor had to say about the future of all of us. Hoax or not, crazy or real, he said one thing that I really see is unfortunately slowly becoming reality..looks like the american government really is supposing americans prefer "security" instead of human rights... the Patriot Act scares me. It seriously makes me think we're ALL in the hands of complete bastard idiots.



posted on Sep, 1 2004 @ 04:43 PM
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There have always been a 'crowd' that find uncontrolled 'talk' scary......even when it's done in the 'clear' right in front of them.

'We' number many millions - if not billions - and weirdo oddballs like Wolfowitz don't.

My vote is for telling the Wolfowitz's of this world to "F*ck off!" and keep their unfounded paranoia to themselves (yes, but shut up Paul, I know things can always turn out bad, there are no 100%'s , that's life) as loudly as possible.

[edit on 1-9-2004 by sminkeypinkey]



posted on Sep, 2 2004 @ 02:00 AM
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Originally posted by mpeake
Boy, think of the horrible things that would happen without the internet for a short period of time. Kids would be forced to go outside and see the sun, fathers could take thier boys fishing over the weekend, husbands and wives wouldn't be able to cheat online, people would have to write out and mail thier own letters, creepy old men couldn't stalk young children online, you might actually have to to to the library to look something up.

Boy, I don't know if I'd mind a break from the internet, especially if meant I was being protected in the meantime from terrorist attacks.


Then people would gripe that children are getting skin cancer, and that it's inhumane to catch a fish. Husbands and wives would have to cheat with the neighbor or co-worker....creepy old men would stalk children on playgrounds and at schools...and then the feds would shut down the library because there's information there. Wait --- THAT ALREADY HAPPENS!

Mind you...those terrorist attacks you're so worried about? You want the threat gone? Vote them out this November



posted on Sep, 2 2004 @ 10:06 AM
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Thanks for the link. Very interesting. Check it out, folks.


Originally posted by amber83

Originally posted by mpeake
Boy, think of the horrible things that would happen without the internet for a short period of time. Kids would be forced to go outside and see the sun, fathers could take thier boys fishing over the weekend, husbands and wives wouldn't be able to cheat online, people would have to write out and mail thier own letters, creepy old men couldn't stalk young children online, you might actually have to to to the library to look something up.


Then people would gripe that children are getting skin cancer, and that it's inhumane to catch a fish. Husbands and wives would have to cheat with the neighbor or co-worker....creepy old men would stalk children on playgrounds and at schools...and then the feds would shut down the library because there's information there. Wait --- THAT ALREADY HAPPENS!

Mind you...those terrorist attacks you're so worried about? You want the threat gone? Vote them out this November


Too funny, Amber83!



posted on Sep, 2 2004 @ 05:33 PM
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Once again your imagination is remarkable. However, can you tell us a story that is believable?



posted on Sep, 6 2004 @ 11:53 AM
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More internet manipulation:



Assaulted over the Internet

Charles E. Carlson


Yes, we were assaulted over the Internet and it is not over. This is not the first time, but it is the worst so far. We Hold These Truths/Strait Gate Ministries has survived for the moment after being totally blacked out for eight days without a warning or a hearing. What was done to us is no different than had our offices been bombed and looted, in fact, it might be easier to recover.
whtt.org.../Mugd.htm


I've been saying that the government can simply flip the switch and black out whomever they want. Note that Russia did just that during the hostage crisis. It can happen.



The Russian government took the action of blocking all telephone communications in Beslan, supposedly to prevent the terrorists from communicating with outside organizers who were not at the scene of the events. However, if the terrorists had planned to do this, wouldn't they just use radio communications or satellite phones?
www.prisonplanet.tv...



posted on Dec, 1 2004 @ 07:28 AM
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General Abizaid, Chief of U.S. Central Command, is now making noises about curbing some internet access by extremists. This is a very slippery slope. All the machine has to do is label you a terrorist (for whatever reason they deem) and you're screwed.



Abizaid Calls for Internet Controls

Pakistan Dawn | November 29 2004

A top US general called on Friday for bolder international action to stop the "spread of Muslim extremism", suggesting curbs were needed to prevent the Internet and other media from being used by groups like Al Qaeda.

"Why is it that people have the right to get on the Internet and spread this hatred and insanity without there being some curb, some law?" said Gen John Abizaid, the chief of the US Central Command.

"To me if we think this is some kind of freedom of speech to put on a picture of someone getting their head chopped off on the Internet and people have the right to purvey that, that's not the world I want to live in, and it just encourages this kind of behavior," he said.

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prisonplanet.com...



posted on Dec, 1 2004 @ 10:46 AM
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The internet isnt going anywhere. After all, how would all the Congresmen get thier pron ("porn" for all you "l33t" speak rookies)? And meet other perverts?

Nah, the internet is big business now too, they have some lobbying power themselves now. And if big business is against it, Dubya is against it.



posted on Dec, 1 2004 @ 11:48 AM
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To shut down the internet? It's too damn decentralized for that...

Of course the US gov could shut down all the servers in America, but what happens to the large Asian and European networks??? The great thing with internet is that it's beyond borders, and as long as the Pentagon does'nt have total control over the worldwide network's servers and protocols, or that the UN does'nt take it over, there's no risk to see that happen.



posted on Dec, 1 2004 @ 11:53 AM
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It really would not be that hard to do. Think back two years when UUNET's backbone went down. Latency was about 7 hours and packet loss was huge. It made the good ol T-1 line work about a quick as a 2600 baud modem. Only takes a couple of backbone trunks and routers.



posted on Dec, 1 2004 @ 12:49 PM
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Haha ,am i glad i live in Holland!

Would be a shame though to loose you internet-brothers in the conquest for truth and openess.
The thing is all americans are in the lions mouth and so your contribution in telling what the lion is doing is vert important .what are the insiders without the outsiders.
America would close itself of from the rest of the world in internet land!
And so creating a kind of prison.

would be a shame



posted on Dec, 1 2004 @ 12:56 PM
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I'm not sure the government would ever want to deny us Internet access. Isn't this just like Big Brother in 1984?


Originally posted by RealisticPatriot
You guys are overlooking an important fact... Businesses are highly dependent on the internet nowadays .. pull the internet and all our busineses will suffer big time. even the big bad nwo gov doesnt want that

Businesses are more reliant on networks, not necessarily the Internet. They could survive with a closed network. The only difference would be, only inner office email would be available.

So, how would the gov. shut down the Internet? They'd have to, not only shut down all ISP's in the US, but in the entire world.


[edit on 1-12-2004 by Damned]



posted on Dec, 1 2004 @ 12:59 PM
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Hate to disappoint you but an outage of the backbone ie. UUNET is global in nature. Global response time and packet loss was dramatic and it took hours to fix.

Here is the traffic report


0 - 100 with 100 being optimum



[edit on 12/1/2004 by just_a_pilot]



posted on Dec, 1 2004 @ 01:00 PM
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It wouldn't surprise me if another "terrorist" attack happened and the DoD decided that they had to switch us to some kind of China-esque internet which is tightly controlled/monitered. I wouldn't even bother w/it.



posted on Dec, 1 2004 @ 01:03 PM
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Originally posted by Damned

Businesses are more reliant on networks, not necessarily the Internet. They could survive with a closed network. The only difference would be, only inner office email would be available.

So, how would the gov. shut down the Internet? They'd have to, not only shut down all ISP's in the US, but in the entire world.


[edit on 1-12-2004 by Damned]


Alot of major businesses use the internet to order stuff online now a days. Without the internet I don't think businesses would be able to run their full capacity.



posted on Dec, 1 2004 @ 01:04 PM
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Originally posted by just_a_pilot
Hate to disappoint you but an outage of the backbone ie. UUNET is global in nature. Global response time and packet loss was dramatic and it took hours to fix.

Sure, but who owns the Internet? Several corporations own the backbones, correct? I'm sure not all of them are American.


Originally posted by mrmulder
A lot of major businesses use the internet to order stuff online now a days. Without the internet I don't think businesses would be able to run their full capacity.

How soon they forget! Telephones and snail mail still work, no? Sure, Internet companies would suffer, but large corporations who don't sell solely on the Inet would not. The Inet is only a convenience. Loss of it would not stop the world from turning.

[edit on 1-12-2004 by Damned]



posted on Dec, 1 2004 @ 01:09 PM
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The problem is traffic no matter where from is routed hopefully to the quickest trunk. A problem with that and espescially UUNET ( Unix to Unix Network ) is so large it affects everyone. UUNET pretty much is the superhighway of the Net.

Take a look at a tracert of any computer that banged on your firewall. Hopefully you recorded the event. Most of them from America or abroad route a very simiular map.



posted on Dec, 1 2004 @ 01:14 PM
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Here's an unsettling scenario: Massive terror attack(s), the economy crashes, no money - no fuel - no power - no INTERNET.



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