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Originally posted by AngelsOnMyShoulder
I hate to break down things to something so trivial as $ , but honestly how in the heck can we afford to get involved in this war too - when we can't even afford the one we are already in. The people of America are hurting with foreclosures, public service cuts, rising food costs the list just goes on. I believe in helping other countries.. although I would have to say I disagree with our policy of sticking our nose in every country's affairs. But my real concern is really...how can we afford it if the Government Checkbook is empty ;-(
Originally posted by Pr0t0
reply to post by mydarkpassenger
Except in Bahrain where it's ok to shoot protestors, right?... or Saudi, perhaps? Or Yemen... Certainly Lebanon they're our newest lap dogs in the middle east right? Ivory Coast has a dictator who's openly killed many thousands, but he's cool too. Sudan's dictator is a convicted war criminal who has the blood of hundreds of thousands to answer for - - but no rush.
Of course, you're right. Libyans need to be saved from this brutal dictator, whose army drop bombs hundreds of yards from protestors while they fire aimlessly into the sky. Funny how all the ameteur footage in Libya cannot be verified, admittedly even by the BBC and Sky News in several reports the previous days. But, OK sure, you seem to think it's the most pressing matter to remove this dictator before any other, so cvonvince me of why that is? And not because Libyan 'rebels' are asking for it, because you'll find much needier, more desperate 'rebels' elsewhere. If you can convince me of that I won't even mention the oil.
Originally posted by Evanescence
Oh my God your spreading of FUD has to stop.
Yes there are dictators around the world. Yes they do bad things. Yes we don't always act against them.
But it's not due to the fact that we want Libya's oil or whatever ridiculous reason you think of, it's because as humans our attention span is directed in certain directions given the ebb and flow of history and politics. The Arab revolutions that swept through Tunisia and then Egypt landed in Libya and nearly overthrew this dictator. Hence why our eyes were on this so much more so than Ivory Coast. Given Libya's relevance in this regard, of course it garners the most international attention. He also has been slaughtering his people mercilessly. Peaceful protesters, whereas in the other Arab nations, no such event occurred to this extent.
And did you not notice the extremely cautious nature of the U.S.? We didn't even push for a no-fly zone. We were very hesitant, even as Libya appeared on the verge of collapse. Now when things look worse for the rebels and with the approval of the Arab League we only just felt ready to support a UN-backed attack on Gaddafi.
Do you know why this is such a bad situation for the U.S.? Because we ALWAYS lose. No matter what we do. It's a catch-22 and if half of the people in the world were smart enough to realize that, then perhaps these dilemmas wouldn't be so daunting. If we go in to stop him, then naturally we must want oil/bases/US presence/etc. If we don't go in, we are "letting" him murder people and kill civilians and we get accused of inaction.
And your ridiculous assertion that these are fake "rebels" and all that makes you sound more delusional than Gaddafi. Back up your statements with facts. With sources that aren't some chic website's hearsay! Do you know how logistically impossible and unrealistic it is to fake all this news all around the world without any leaks? It's so ridiculous to even address that it boggles the mind. Surely there could be some manipulation as frequently the press and people have biases and such, but you are really pushing the envelope there.
Originally posted by SonOfTheLawOfOne
More profiteering by the military complex...
War is business, and business is good.
Originally posted by Big Raging Loner
Breaking. Libya declares ceasefire with immediate effect.
news.sky.com... 103315954839?lpos=World_News_Carousel_Region_0&lid=ARTICLE_15954839_Gaddafi_Closes_Air_Space_Over_Libya_As_Britain_Sends_Aircraft_To_Enforce_No-Fly_Zo ne%3A_Ceasefire
The Libyan government has announced an immediate ceasefire, less than two hours after Prime Minister David Cameron said British fighter jets would be deployed to enforce a United Nations no-fly zone.
Slimey bastard. Will be interesting to see what happens in the near future. he has bought a few more days.
Sorry about the link, check sky news, or type ceasefire into Google News search.edit on 18-3-2011 by Big Raging Loner because: Crap link.