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TA-THREATS: Iraq Militants Threaten to Behead 6 New Hostages, One Every 72 Hours

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posted on Jul, 21 2004 @ 09:48 AM
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Militants in Iraq are threatening to behead six men they claim to have taken hostage today. The six are all civilians, believed to be truck drivers. Two are Kenyan, three are from India and one is Egyptian.
The group demands that the company employing the men remove employees from Iraq and that the Kenyan, Indian & Egyptian governments pull troops from the country.
None of the three countries have any troops in Iraq.
"The Holders of the Black Banners" have threatened to behead one hostage every 72 hours if their demands are not met beginning 8pm local time Wednesday (noon Wednesday EST). This appears to be a previously unknown terrorist group.
 




ABC News
A militant group said Wednesday it had taken six more hostages - three Indians, two Kenyans and an Egyptian and would behead them if their countries did not immediately announce their intention to withdraw their citizens from Iraq.

In a statement given to The Associated Press, the group, calling itself "The Holders of the Black Banners," said it had abducted the six truckers and would behead one of them every 72 hours if their nations did not pull out of Iraq and the company they work for did not close its branch here. The deadline starts from 8 p.m. (noon EDT) Wednesday, it said.

Please visit the link provided for the complete story.


The men are believed to be Ibrahim Khamis, Salm Faiz Khamis, and Jalal Awadh from Kenya; Antaryami, Sukdev Singh, and Tilak Raj from India; and Mohammed Ali Sanad, from Egypt, according to a typed piece of paper shown in photos included with the statement. It is to be noted that there are three Kenyan names on the list, but only two are noted in the statment itself and only six men are shown in the photos.

A video was broadcast on Al-Arabiya showing one of the men, Egyptian Mohammed Ali Sanad, pleaded They will chop off our heads. Who will feed my family, my brothers and sisters? I urge the company to work to send us to our countries."

Militant groups have recently threatened to behead foreign Muslims working in Iraq, causing an uproar in the Muslim community.

Related News Links:
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Reuters
ABC News


[edit on 22-7-2004 by Banshee]




posted on Jul, 21 2004 @ 10:06 AM
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lets give our thanks to the countries of Spain and the Fillipines to amplify the acts of these extremist hostage takers. It looks like its going to get alot worse. Thank you Spain and Flip-Flop countries for making this situation a worse one.



posted on Jul, 21 2004 @ 10:08 AM
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Haha, not every terrorist is a brainer. Jesus, I guess they will be haunted by other terrorists for the "most useless hostage taking"-of the year


Thanks for the info, read it here, first time!



posted on Jul, 21 2004 @ 10:10 AM
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link,
news.com.au...
Sanc'.



posted on Jul, 21 2004 @ 10:33 AM
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*bangs head*

The captors demand Kenya, India & Egypt pull troops from Iraq.
THEY DON'T HAVE ANY TROOPS THERE!

These terrorists certainly aren't brainers. :shk:



posted on Jul, 21 2004 @ 11:14 AM
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The group demands that the company employing the men remove employees from Iraq and that the Kenyan, Indian & Egyptian governments pull troops from the country.
None of the three countries have any troops in Iraq.


And "Terrorist of the Year" goes to.....


These are the kinds of mindless animals we're up against....

The worst part is, these workers are likely in infrastructure supporting jobs. The terrorists are harming the Iraqi people (not to mention their own egos) by such actions.... I'd give anything to hear the phone calls between Kenya, India, and Egypt, to the leaders of Spain, and the Phillipines right now, hehe....



posted on Jul, 21 2004 @ 11:30 AM
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What's missing now is some stupid peace protestors demanding Kenya, India & Egypt to pull out their troops

If this happens I will piss my pants and send a shot via picture phone



posted on Jul, 21 2004 @ 11:36 AM
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Originally posted by 2goodbucs
lets give our thanks to the countries of Spain and the Fillipines to amplify the acts of these extremist hostage takers. It looks like its going to get alot worse. Thank you Spain and Flip-Flop countries for making this situation a worse one.


- Well I don't know how it was reported where you are 2goodbucs but you seem to have the wrong idea entirely about how come Spain left Iraq.

Just before the Spainish election there was a bomb attack in Madrid, as you probably know. It is believed this attack was by Al Qaeda.

The government of Spainish Prime Minister Aznar was on course to win that election by a clear majority. This also you probably know.

Then - and this is the part you seem to have no knowledge of - the Spainish people found out beyond all doubt that Aznar's people had attempted to 'use' the Madrid bombing for their own narrow domestic political ends in relation to the troubles Spain has with the Basque region and peoples.

The Spainish people, not unnaturally, didn't like being lied to so blatently and ejected Aznar and Co. promptly on election day.

To claim this was any kind of 'terrorist victory' is a total misrepresentation of the truth of what happened and merely to display ones' own ignorance of the facts.

Spain was not a 'flip flop' thing at all. It is true that the Spainish people, like many european peoples, did not agree with the Bush analysis of the need to go to war, an analysis, let's remember, that has since been found to be totally wrong.

But, it was entirely Aznar's governments' deceptions that got them chucked out not the actions of AQ.

By the way, disgusting and revolting as this or any of the beheadings have been - and let's be clear, I am saying they are.....

.....when entire families are being slaughtered, smashed and pulped by stray bombs and as 'collateral damage' where is your passionate compassion for them? They are equally not combatants, are they not equally innocent?

The latest figures show over 50 000 killed since the war started, not that you'd know it.

It seems Iraqi innocents just don't exist.




[edit on 21-7-2004 by sminkeypinkey]



posted on Jul, 21 2004 @ 11:38 AM
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These guys probably aren't terrorists - they're criminal bandits.

Kidnapping is a money business for some criminal gangs in Iraq. They've shown that they have no knowledge of the political situation by demanding that non-existent armies are withdrawn.
They are aware that these people work for a company though.
I would expect them to be released in the near future - probably after a ransom has been paid.



posted on Jul, 21 2004 @ 11:53 AM
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Originally posted by sminkeypinkey

Originally posted by 2goodbucs
lets give our thanks to the countries of Spain and the Fillipines to amplify the acts of these extremist hostage takers. It looks like its going to get alot worse. Thank you Spain and Flip-Flop countries for making this situation a worse one.


- Well I don't know how it was reported where you are 2goodbucs but you seem to have the wrong idea entirely about how come Spain left Iraq.

Just before the Spainish election there was a bomb attack in Madrid, as you probably know. It is believed this attack was by Al Qaeda.

The government of Spainish Prime Minister Aznar was on course to win that election by a clear majority. This also you probably know.


Aznar wasn't even that far ahead.

Polls taken just before the elction showed the Popular Party with 42 percent of the vote.
The socialists had 38 percent of the vote.
That's only 4%, probably within the margin of error for the poll.

The Socialists had won 125 seats in the 2000 election.
In the 2004 election, they won 164 seats vs. 148 seats for the Popular Party .

Seeing as how 90% of Spain's population opposed the war even before the bombing, it's possible they would have voted in the Socialists even if the bombing hadn't happened. The Socialists also would have removed their troops even if the bombing hadn't happened, that was a promise that had been made earlier.

Spain Election resuts

So, 2goodbucs, you really can't blame Spain or France or the anyone else for what's going on in Iraq. They weren't the ones who started this war.


[edit on 21-7-2004 by AceOfBase]



posted on Jul, 21 2004 @ 12:04 PM
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Originally posted by sminkeypinkey
Then - and this is the part you seem to have no knowledge of - the Spainish people found out beyond all doubt that Aznar's people had attempted to 'use' the Madrid bombing for their own narrow domestic political ends in relation to the troubles Spain has with the Basque region and peoples.

The Spainish people, not unnaturally, didn't like being lied to so blatently and ejected Aznar and Co. promptly on election day.

Wow all in a day or two?


To claim this was any kind of 'terrorist victory' is a total misrepresentation of the truth of what happened and merely to display ones' own ignorance of the facts.
The Terrorists wanted Spain out of Iraq + they bombed Spain to get that message across + Spain withdrew from Iraq = Terrorist Victory. No matter how you try to spin it.


Spain was not a 'flip flop' thing at all. It is true that the Spainish people, like many european peoples, did not agree with the Bush analysis of the need to go to war, an analysis, let's remember, that has since been found to be totally wrong.
Again not true, proof that Iraq was talking to 3 African countries to buy plutonium has again been confirmed. Reports for Russia(yes a country that was against us going to war with Iraq) says they have, and had before the war, intellegence reports that Iraq had met with Al Quida to plan attacks on the US. Weapons that were supposed to have been destroyed in Iraq were found in other countries. And there is still no proof that the WMD's that Iraq had just a few years ago have been destoryed. Oh and the fact that Iraq has been shooting at our forces for the last 12 years shouldn't have matter either.


The latest figures show over 50 000 killed since the war started, not that you'd know it.
BS, where is your official source of this information. I'ld also like to see the official number of how many deaths are confirmed US killings. I'll make it easy for you, there isn't any.

But somehow through your jargen about innocent deaths, you have turned this thread away from innocents, and true subjects of this thread, the men that have gone over to Iraq to rebuild it, are now sitting in some room scared praying to whatever god they believe in, that one day they might see their families again.



posted on Jul, 21 2004 @ 12:05 PM
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I agree that nations shouldn't give in to terrorists, but companies? Is withdrawing employees the same as troops? I seriously don't know. I think if I were a president of a country, I would not pull out troops, but as a president of a company, I think I would pull out employees, to save one. Any thoughts on the difference? I'm still debating internally myself.



posted on Jul, 21 2004 @ 12:38 PM
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In Nigeria there was ONE phone call between them and Iraqi officials to discuss trade. During that phone call NO MENTION of uranium was made. Nigerian officials SPECULATED that eventually in future potential calls it would turn to talk of uranium.

SPECULATION = ATTEMPT TO PURCHASE ???

Phantom WMDs, Phantom negotiations

What ever the right wingers are SMOKING must be some GOOD SH*T

Banshee is right: These guys don't seem real bright. Few religious zealots are, including those in this country. Criminal opportunists in US and Iraq probably aren't very bright either. Many American murderers and criminals are caught because they brag about it.

Edit: Source of information was on 'Charlie Rose' last night (July 20th) interviewing former ambassador Wilson and a Republican Senator.

[edit on 21-7-2004 by slank]



posted on Jul, 21 2004 @ 01:16 PM
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Originally posted by Darktalon
Again not true, proof that Iraq was talking to 3 African countries to buy plutonium has again been confirmed.


Couldn't find any link about that issue. Could you help me on that one?



posted on Jul, 21 2004 @ 02:11 PM
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Updated info:

The group is threatening to behead a hostage every 72 hours until their demands are met beginning at noon EST today.
Once again - these countries do not have troops there! These poor men!!



posted on Jul, 21 2004 @ 02:20 PM
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Originally posted by shoo

Originally posted by Darktalon
Again not true, proof that Iraq was talking to 3 African countries to buy plutonium has again been confirmed.


Couldn't find any link about that issue. Could you help me on that one?


I bet one of those country' was Libya.
Sanc'.



posted on Jul, 21 2004 @ 02:28 PM
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if the terrorists follow through with what they are saying would Kenyan, Indian & Egyptian governments actually send troops to Iraq because of this act of agression?????



posted on Jul, 21 2004 @ 02:31 PM
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It has changed from troops to citizens now, so they can actually do something. Still they get my "most useless hostage taking"-of the year award



posted on Jul, 21 2004 @ 02:35 PM
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Originally posted by blobby
if the terrorists follow through with what they are saying would Kenyan, Indian & Egyptian governments actually send troops to Iraq because of this act of agression?????


I wouldn't be surprised.

Iraqi terrorists are pissing off too many of the wrong countries.



posted on Jul, 21 2004 @ 02:47 PM
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Originally posted by sminkeypinkey
Then - and this is the part you seem to have no knowledge of - the Spainish people found out beyond all doubt that Aznar's people had attempted to 'use' the Madrid bombing for their own narrow domestic political ends in relation to the troubles Spain has with the Basque region and peoples.

The Spainish people, not unnaturally, didn't like being lied to so blatently and ejected Aznar and Co. promptly on election dayWow all in a day or two?.


- 3 days actually. It's not like the Spainish are without electronic media or that news travels by stage coach any more is it?



To claim this was any kind of 'terrorist victory' is a total misrepresentation of the truth of what happened and merely to display ones' own ignorance of the facts. The Terrorists wanted Spain out of Iraq + they bombed Spain to get that message across + Spain withdrew from Iraq = Terrorist Victory. No matter how you try to spin it.


- no that's your spin. You are choosing to completely ignore the massive row there was in Spain when this Basque story came out to suit your political preferences - like you'd know anyway!?. That row happened. You cannot just dismiss it.


Spain was not a 'flip flop' thing at all. It is true that the Spainish people, like many european peoples, did not agree with the Bush analysis of the need to go to war, an analysis, let's remember, that has since been found to be totally wrongAgain not true, proof that Iraq was talking to 3 African countries to buy plutonium has again been confirmed. Reports for Russia(yes a country that was against us going to war with Iraq) says they have, and had before the war, intellegence reports that Iraq had met with Al Quida to plan attacks on the US. Weapons that were supposed to have been destroyed in Iraq were found in other countries. And there is still no proof that the WMD's that Iraq had just a few years ago have been destoryed. Oh and the fact that Iraq has been shooting at our forces for the last 12 years shouldn't have matter either..


- LMAO. Get over it the WMD story was BS and the USA didn't follow through with the UN inspection regime (for that very reason). End of.


The latest figures show over 50 000 killed since the war started, not that you'd know it.BS, where is your official source of this information. I'ld also like to see the official number of how many deaths are confirmed US killings. I'll make it easy for you, there isn't any.


- yes there is. There are estimates all over the web. 50 000 seems a fair median figure.....what's your preferred estimate? None? A few thousand? How many?

Not to mention the several hundred thousand killed in the last gulf war.

When or where does any of this ever figure in your one-sided pro-war preaching?


But somehow through your jargen about innocent deaths, you have turned this thread away from innocents, and true subjects of this thread, the men that have gone over to Iraq to rebuild it, are now sitting in some room scared praying to whatever god they believe in, that one day they might see their families again.


- That's simply not true. I have said I wish no ill on anyone and I have clearly stated my view on the beheadings.

You clearly just don't like it when people consider the situation as a whole rather than the one-sided infantile propaganda you obviously prefer.

You seem incapable of even the most rudimentary empathy....could you attempt to consider what your reaction might be if the situation pertaining to Iraq was your one at home? How angry would you get?

I am getting the impression that people in the USA seem to think Iraq is winding down and becoming better, I suggest you start getting your information elsewhere as that seems far from the case according to the reports I see.

How about you talk to some of the guys coming home....the UK is involved in this lunacy too and the stories I've been getting are horrific.



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