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Since the official US radiation site is experiencing some problems, I would strongly suggest you take a long hard look at this live streaming site using live streaming technology. It is based in Driggs Idaho using a Ludlum model 177 that is exposed to direct wind. What is concerning is that you can watch the CPM go from around 80 CPM to 140 CPM as the winds wax and wane. This is scary stuff indeed.
Originally posted by star child
reply to post by ProtoplasmicTraveler
Now, here comes the crazy part. Who are the people doing all of this, surely they are flesh and blood like the rest of us? Will they not be as vulnerable as the rest of us?. l've been racking my two tiny brain cells for years about this one, Aliens? good theory but l don't think so. The one thing that has puzzeled me for years is Why are the pictures we are presented with to do with the lSS. practicaly the same now as when they they first started showing them in the 60's. lt seems to me that there has been very little progress in fifty years. lf you add up the money that NASA has recieved in the last 50yrs lt is astounding how little they have progressed. Then l heard about Gay Mckinnon, the hacker from the uk. he claims among other things to have seen "off world" rota's. and huge ships. The US are trying to extradite him and want to give him up to 70yrs. lt was after reading his story things started to make more sense. Sorry there are no paragraphs, l haven't got a clue how to do them yet. Peace starchild.
Originally posted by ProtoplasmicTraveler
It’s a real tragedy what has happened in Japan but perhaps the bigger tragedy if there could be one is the level of disdain the Japanese Government and the Press and many of the so called ‘think tanks’ and experts have been showing for people with common sense in how badly they are reporting and distorting events from the scenes.
#1: How can they say there is no serious breach of containment at the plants?
Let’s look at a few things here, the first and not the least is the fact that these buildings have suffered massive explosions to the point that the roofs are gone over many of the reactors.
Sure these are ‘just’ the roofs that once covered the containment vessels but if the containment vessels weren’t damaged how would pouring and spraying water on the containment vessels actually cool the fuel?
The super heated fuel would still be safely inside; none of the water would be getting to it.
If what they were saying is true, this would be like your car having an over heated radiator and you being able to ‘cool’ it by going through a carwash with the hood down over the radiator.
Clearly the containment vessels are compromised otherwise pouring water on them would be an utter waste of time.
#2: They plan to restore power to the cooling systems by running outside lines to the main plant junctions?
If this were even possible massive generators could have been airlifted by helicopter to the plant within the first 24 to 48 hours.
Further the buildings have been rocked by explosions and fires, what are the chances of the wiring not having been damaged by them.
In addition they have been pouring sea water, with highly corrosive salt all over the damaged and exposed building, how could any of the wiring to the cooling systems be working for a ‘plug in’.
They say they are going to have to install new cooling pumps to pump sea water, because the old ones are damaged from pumping sea water through them? So how do the new pumps not get damaged too from the sea water in fairly short order?
Further how will they cool fuel where the containment vessels have obviously been badly damaged?
#3: They should be called heroes as they may ultimately have to sacrifice their lives?
We aren’t seeing much from the plant and certainly no one is giving statements from within it, and they have in the last 24 hours started assaulting the plant from the air.
Were the 50 workers evacuated when radiation levels became too high 48 hours ago, evacuated alive? It’s a horrible question to have to ask but I wouldn’t be able to rule out the possibility due to the lack of reporting on the ground at the facility and in conjunction with all the distortions and lies being reported that those 50 workers died, and an hour later another 180 were sent in to lay down their own to keep the show going.
#4: If no significant radiation has been released why is even the New York Times now reporting Radio Active Clouds that pose minimal health hazards will reach the California Coast by tomorrow?
One YouTube source already is claiming radio active clouds were detected in Bakersfield yesterday and what exactly is minimal health hazard? They tell us that the radiation being released quickly dissipates once you get away from the plant, yet American Ships have been withdrawn to 100 miles from the plant and Americans are being airlifted out of Japan now on chartered flights.
#5: Clearly these plants are beyond repair, why aren’t they actively entombing them?
It would seem to me a plant rocked by explosions its structure and equipment exposed to high levels of radiation is not going to be back online next year.
Is this whole obscene series of lies and story telling just a way to cover up the fact that once again no one in government anywhere was prepared with the proper materials at their disposal to actually handle a disaster of this severity?
The corporations that run them have no logistical ability to quickly entomb them and the governments themselves have no ability either.
Those are just the major questions regarding the common sense inconsistencies in the ‘official stories’ being broadcast out of Japan and our own Medias and higher learning institutions.
For a week now we have been hearing, don’t worry, phony figures, ridiculous analogies, and what the disaster is ‘not’ as opposed to what it honestly is.
What more will it take for people to start using common sense and realize that the Media and Governments are always running a three ring circus on us, where the people are the last to ever know anything, and the Government and Media are of the opinion that we can be taught to argue anything simply by giving us carefully constructed versions to argue over, while all the while they operate nearly unaccountable in the vacuum of the confusion that they create.
Can the world really afford to keep running on lies? Are people really not better served by the truth?
As dangerous as radioactive clouds roaming the earth is, I for one think it pales in comparison to the dangers of organized media and government having such disdain for the people that they are supposed to inform, protect and serve but do the exact opposite.
edit on 17/3/11 by ProtoplasmicTraveler because: (no reason given)