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Questions the Skeptics, Media and Government(s) Can’t Answer.

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posted on Mar, 17 2011 @ 10:32 PM
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Originally posted by XtraTL
Umm. I think it is pretty universally accepted that the reactor problems were caused by a massive earthquake and tsunami. You might have seen them on the news if you weren't so busy reading conspiracy forums.

Besides lying governments, the corporate media and you, it's universally accepted by who?


The tsunami was in turn caused by the earthquake.

The earthquake was caused by a sudden release of stress built up at a known fault line with a history of earthquakes every 80 years or so, and for which one was due.

There is no need for any other hypothesis here.

Why not? Because you say so? This sounds a lot like Bush saying, "Let us never tolerate outrageous conspiracy theories..." 2 DAYS after 9/11!


I don't require a reply here, as it would be off topic for the thread. But let me ask you rhetorically whether you know a single detail about any of the HAARP experiments? Do you know what energy levels are involved and where they would be getting that energy from?

You're gonna get a reply anyway because it perfectly fits the premise of this thread.

HAARP has 360 transmitters that generate 10,000 watts of RF power, which is 3.6 million watts of RF output to the antennas.

But what makes HAARP unique is a patented ability to focus those transmissions to a single point in the sky, which magnifies this power X 1000 to create 3.6 billion watts of power.

If Nikola Tesla said in 1908 that given enough power, he could split the world in two, I wonder what he could do with 3.6 billion watts?




posted on Mar, 17 2011 @ 10:35 PM
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Originally posted by ProtoplasmicTraveler
reply to post by greenCo
 


Doesn't look too good to me.

Thanks for sharing those pictures.



The one of the first posts I made about the issues in Japan was in response to someone who said "Well, it's only a 4 (on the 1-7 scale). I said that I would bet it got to at least a six, and probably a 7+. I fear I was too prescient. Looks like it will top Chernobyl from those images. (The outer casing at Chernobyl wasn't exploded off, as I recall... That was my initial clue.)

No... It doesn't look good at all.



posted on Mar, 17 2011 @ 10:36 PM
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I thought it wasn't so much the reactors that where getting seawater but the spent fuel rods that where. For some reason the spent rods where being stored in a thing kind of like a pond, and due to the power shutting off water must be brought in to cool these. The question I want to know is; why did they store these dangerous materials on site?



posted on Mar, 17 2011 @ 10:43 PM
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It really makes one wonder. Did they think it would never happen? I mean to not be able to handle any situation is a very amateur move of any country (even us). Seriously if you couldn't handle the worse case scenario of that facility going down; then it should never have been built in the first place...Irresponsibility on just so many levels.



posted on Mar, 17 2011 @ 10:44 PM
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Because there are no facilities on earth to store them. Every reactor on earth is like this. No one has mentioned that there are a further 330 vertical dry storage containers holding even more spent fuel rods.
edit on 3/17/2011 by utsaME because: typo



posted on Mar, 17 2011 @ 10:45 PM
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Originally posted by greenCo







judge for yourself



Anyone questioning whether or not the Japanese media or TEPCO is engaged in a coverup would be wise to look at the watermarks on those images.



posted on Mar, 17 2011 @ 10:47 PM
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Originally posted by agentofchaos
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It really makes one wonder. Did they think it would never happen? I mean to not be able to handle any situation is a very amateur move of any country (even us). Seriously if you couldn't handle the worse case scenario of that facility going down; then it should never have been built in the first place...Irresponsibility on just so many levels.


How do you know what the "worst case scenario is" unitl it happens?



posted on Mar, 17 2011 @ 10:49 PM
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edit on 17-3-2011 by XtraTL because: Whoops, off topic



posted on Mar, 17 2011 @ 10:55 PM
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I can debunk this in one sentence.

Energy from a single lightning strike: 1000 billion watts.

This nonsense isn't even worth wasting breath on.

And I think it is completely off topic. It answers none of the OPs questions.
edit on 17-3-2011 by XtraTL because: (no reason given)



posted on Mar, 17 2011 @ 10:55 PM
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Found this earlier. Took a minute to remember. The New Safe Confinement for Chernobyl.

en.wikipedia.org...

So, if it's going to take 9 years longer to build this thing than they thought what are the odds they cover Fukushima up in a timely manner?
edit on 3/17/2011 by utsaME because: clarification



posted on Mar, 17 2011 @ 11:01 PM
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I bring this brilliant quote by Enrico Fermi who towards the end of his life, himself dying of cancer due to radiation exposure, started to question his faith in society about making choices about the use of nuclear power




"Some of you may ask, what is the good of working so hard merely to collect a few facts which will bring no pleasure except to a few long-haired professors who love to collect such things and will be of no use to anybody because only few specialists at best will be able to understand them? In answer to such question[s] I may venture a fairly safe prediction. History of science and technology has consistently taught us that scientific advances in basic understanding have sooner or later led to technical and industrial applications that have revolutionized our way of life. It seems to me improbable that this effort to get at the structure of matter should be an exception to this rule. What is less certain, and what we all fervently hope, is that man will soon grow sufficiently adult to make good use of the powers that he acquires over nature.



posted on Mar, 17 2011 @ 11:32 PM
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Originally posted by XtraTL
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I can debunk this in one sentence.

Energy from a single lightning strike: 1000 billion watts.

I'll see your debunking and raise you.

Does lightning have resonant frequencies that can be focused and steered anywhere on the planet?


This nonsense isn't even worth wasting breath on.

Then stop trying and go back to defending nuclear power plants, aspartame and fluoride while dismissing advanced energy technologies, UFO research and chemtrails.

For a "rational" person like yourself who's concerned about wasting their breath on silly conspiracies, I'd recommend the JREF or CSICOP forums.


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posted on Mar, 17 2011 @ 11:47 PM
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Questions,
#1, If we as humans have gone to the moon, which means past the VAN ALLEN radiation belt, out into the vast radioactivity of space without dying or receiving fatal doses of radiation, and without any astronauts getting sick or having been affected by solar radiation ect.
Why arent we just asking NASA for a lend of the radiation proof spacesuits to give to these workers to clean up this radioactive mess?

#2, Why, when everytime a Japanese minister comes out to talk to the press they are wearing the same Blue Jumpsuit?



posted on Mar, 17 2011 @ 11:50 PM
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#5: Clearly these plants are beyond repair, why aren’t they actively entombing them?

Clearly beyond repair … that’s in your expert opinion huh? Remediation work is certainly preferable to dumping thousands of tons of graphite on the site followed by 10,000’s of tons of concrete.


SIRMIKE!

Really that would be preferable. But I'd like to know your plan for remediation of this site? What time frame are we talking about? What would the cost be; would it be more or less than entombed the entire site?

This PLANT is beyond repair, and will never be anything even close to repair or remediation anytime ever.
PERIOD.

You are in a fantasy world.
edit on 17-3-2011 by odd1out because: clarity



posted on Mar, 17 2011 @ 11:50 PM
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Originally posted by meathed
Questions,
#1, If we as humans have gone to the moon, which means past the VAN ALLEN radiation belt, out into the vast radioactivity of space without dying or receiving fatal doses of radiation, and without any astronauts getting sick or having been affected by solar radiation ect.
Why arent we just asking NASA for a lend of the radiation proof spacesuits to give to these workers to clean up this radioactive mess?


We never have been to the moon



posted on Mar, 18 2011 @ 12:09 AM
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Originally posted by jesiaha

Originally posted by meathed
Questions,
#1, If we as humans have gone to the moon, which means past the VAN ALLEN radiation belt, out into the vast radioactivity of space without dying or receiving fatal doses of radiation, and without any astronauts getting sick or having been affected by solar radiation ect.
Why arent we just asking NASA for a lend of the radiation proof spacesuits to give to these workers to clean up this radioactive mess?


We never have been to the moon


LOL. Right.



posted on Mar, 18 2011 @ 12:09 AM
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Originally posted by jesiaha

Originally posted by meathed[/]
We never have been to the moon

No, are you serious?
Well there goes my chance of saving the world



posted on Mar, 18 2011 @ 12:13 AM
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What I find bizarre about the whole situation is the fact that other countries Nuclear facilities are now on the news as much as Japans!

News stories about Nuclear Power Stations near New York, News Stories about German Nuclear Power, UK Nuclear Power, etc etc .........

Countries telling the media about how they are either pushing on ahead with their Nuclear power or the are holding back their plants.

I just dont get it. Surely all emphasis should be on a massive attempt by all Nuclear Powered Countries to help the Japanese by sealing those plants to kingdom come.

Seems like theirs some political agendas playing out possibly involving oil companies, bankers etc etc



posted on Mar, 18 2011 @ 12:14 AM
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to put the fires out and stop the ongoing radiation spread, why don't they just nuke the rods and burn them up instantly....if the rods are more dangerous than a nuclear explosion, then why the hell not just get it over with so the world can get on with their lives



posted on Mar, 18 2011 @ 12:29 AM
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Great thread Proto!


We also have people in the upper ranks of society saying there's no proof that this will or can harm us etc.
How can they know if there's no precedent or case to compare to? That is, if this situation is really as unique and contained as they have been spewing.

Japan has an insane quantity of weapons grade plutonium, wayyyyy too much of it, and there are probably more MOX fuel reactors at stake here than they are saying. Given the attention they are directing to the #3 I think we can say for certain that there's plutonium MOX employed there. That reactor, alone, is at least a Chernobyl sized problem with heavy, far and wide implications. This situation should have been a level 7 of 7 on day one and the world come together to fix it rather than routing out Libya's leader!

Anything short of concrete mixers in the sky is a failure at this point.




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