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You do know that contrail formation and duration is subject to the temps and humidity in the upper atmosphere and not at ground level don't you?
If the uppers and humidity are conducive,then contrails will form, linger for several hours, and spread forming cirrus cloud.....it is totally weather related.
Originally posted by gloomyblue707
reply to post by Jack Squat
like you i was too a skeptic... until... a strange misty cloud came lower and lower to the ground until it was literally raining down over the cemetary... i could feel extreme nausia... im sorry i dont know what kinda proof you need... but getting poisoned and constant strange cloud patterns i have never witnessed or my parents or grandparents have never witnessed... the truth is up to you and how you want to deal with the facts... denial works too... lol
Originally posted by gloomyblue707
reply to post by Phage
I have never seen a contrail do this. not once.
Originally posted by gloomyblue707
reply to post by Phage
and very little humidity and you see chemtrails at or about 2000 feet... .
Originally posted by gloomyblue707
unless you were there at the cemetary the day i witnessed this event... you really wouldnt understand exactly how i feel... and trying to convince me that i am connecting the dots... obviously so.
It's interesting that the "chemtrail" investigators don't seem to understand some very basic things about contrails. It isn't "a little heat from a jet engine" that causes contrails to form. It is the water vapor in the exhaust which does it. The moisture "triggers" the formation of ice crystals.
They tell you the humidity of the upper atmosphere on the news in the morning?
The images of Chemtrail Spray Operations on these pages are displayed with the associated upper atmosphere weather data for the twelve hour period represented by the time and date stamp on the image. In all of the examples, the upper air data is displayed with at least TWO and in some cases THREE different National Weather Service Monitoring Sites which encompass thousands of square miles of Arizona. In every example, the upper atmosphere relative humidity levels required for jet exhaust to form "Persistent Contrails" (60%) ARE NOT FOUND at any elevation in the sounding data for the 12 hour period represented by the time on the image at any of the monitoring sites.
Originally posted by gloomyblue707
reply to post by Jack Squat
i just see what i see and i know what i know
Originally posted by coyotepoet
reply to post by network dude
Very clever Network Dude:
there are two things you need to have lots of lines in the sky. One of them is a whole bunch of airplanes. The second, is conditions that are favorable for consistent contrail formation. It's amazing how countries very close to the equator don't seem to be affected by the bad man spraying them. The bad man must only like cooler climates. Perhaps the bad man is really the bad woman and is a bitchy 55 year old going through the change. that would explain alot.
Focusing on the first quote about South America and "cooler climates" and not saying anything about the American southwest in the second quote where the winter time temperatures are 75-80. That does not seem like a cooler climate to me.
Or this quote from General Lee talking about the same thing in another Southwestern US state with a warmer climate.
Living in AZ, we have (had) some of the driest, clearest skies in the nation, if not the world. We frequently have skies that are clear blue as far as the eye can see. If the skies were conductive to creating clouds, then they would have clouds. A little heat from a jet engine is not going to create enough moisture from out of "thin air" to create a blanket of clouds a mile or more across. The normal contrail is condensation. You get the same effect when you exhale outside when it's cold out. You can see your breath. It quickly dissipates, it doesn't transform into a layer of fog 10 feet wide.
It's interesting how you too only focus on the things you want that prove your point.
Originally posted by gloomyblue707
reply to post by Jack Squat
I can see you are skeptical and i really do not need to convince you, just know that not everyone out there go around crying wolf... sometimes the wolf really is right there waiting. and no one listens
Originally posted by gloomyblue707
reply to post by Jack Squat
I will never agree that there are no chemtrails because what i have learned and saw with my own eyes