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posted on Apr, 1 2011 @ 04:12 PM
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posted on Apr, 1 2011 @ 04:21 PM
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Originally posted by vesqui1990
reply to post by MathiasAndrew
 


Thanks for being smart. Sometimes I really think that the illuminati is right here on ATS and they try to keep people away from the truth.


Thank you as well for being an intelligent person who is willing to speak out against tyranny and oppression.

I agree with you that TPTB, the globalists, the NWO the Illuminati, they have their tentacles creeping around everywhere.



posted on Apr, 1 2011 @ 04:24 PM
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Originally posted by MathiasAndrew
. I know exactly what I'm talking about.


Unfortunately no-one else does. But then, we don't speak trollese


Well done in destroying all attempts at any discussion on chemtrails, contrails, geoengineering and related subjects. Now please return to your cave because the sun is coming up .....



posted on Apr, 1 2011 @ 04:32 PM
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Ha ha very funny, as if anyone of you debunker really want to discuss the facts and speak the truth.

Do I need to remind you what I said in the OP. Now go back and look at all the trolls trying to derail this thread.

I hope you really are just clueless. But I think you're actually smarter than that aren't you?


Originally posted by MathiasAndrew
I would like this thread to be for people who truly want to investigate the subject of chemtrails. I would also like to respectfully request that the chemtrail debunkers refrain from interfering with this thread and post their usual anti-chemmie comments elsewhere. Please allow the ATS members who want to discuss this issue and share their personal experiences and the information they have about the subject of chemtrails.


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posted on Apr, 1 2011 @ 04:34 PM
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Thank-you...I willl......I'm new also.....and possibly way over my head !



posted on Apr, 1 2011 @ 04:37 PM
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Ok, so I'm not as out of this thread as I intended. I am also posting this in another thread in case it just gets buried in this one. But here are my questions and observations:

What exactly is the relationship between the temperature at 30,000 feet and the temperature on the ground?

Yesterday it was about 87 degrees on the ground and there were no persistent trails (though I did see some real contrails dragging behind a few planes and then quickly going away.

Today (Friday) it is about 97 degrees on the ground and the sky is scarred with persistent lines that have hung around for at least an hour.

This got me thinking about a reoccurring pattern I have noticed over the past month and a half or so. During the week the sky remains clear and free of these persistent trails and on the weekends, all weekend (Fri-Sun) every weekend (for the past month or so-ever since it started getting nice enough for people to be spending more time outdoors) the sky is full of them all day long. It's interesting to consider this in relationship to the fact that more people spend more time outdoors on the weekends than they do during the week.

So my questions are these:

To the debunkers: What is the relationship between ground temperature and troposphere temperature? And if the trails are just an artifact of the weather why are they so consistently biased toward the weekends?

To everybody else: Have you noticed the same sort of pattern where you live?



posted on Apr, 1 2011 @ 04:44 PM
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MathiasAndrew

You started this thread to have a discussion about the use of jets in the sky to geo-engineer our climate.

Anyone that has logged on to clog this discussion is suspect. Why do they waste their time, copy/paste, not answer questions. Heck I know what time it is in England. Why not the dude (small d).

Cats in the Astronot Reserve program believe by planting brocolli and tomatos in the sky they will save us.

But people like you and me know. Geo-Engineering... It is happening. And I do not regret our country in controlling the geo-upper-stuff. ELSE:

If the earth is willing to warm up... and what proof, what evidence is there that any glaciers are growing, that is credible, so, well, the earth is warming for whatever reason.

Send in the Clowns... I mean clouds. I'm not a fan of metal. I think clay is used, and I am not willing to say I know about the chemicals used, but I know all kinds of stuff have been sent down the tube, to combust, afterburn.

Word of God. Clear blue sky here. All week, no contrials till today.



posted on Apr, 1 2011 @ 04:46 PM
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good report
but where are you?

zipcode?

I guess it's way colder up there but I would like better info
like you,
as to where to find specific information about our sky.



posted on Apr, 1 2011 @ 04:52 PM
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Originally posted by MathiasAndrew
reply to post by Essan
 


Ha ha very funny, as if anyone of you debunker really want to discuss the facts and speak the truth.

Do I need to remind you what I said in the OP. Now go back and look at all the trolls trying to derail this thread.

I hope you really are just clueless. But I think you're actually smarter than that aren't you?


Originally posted by MathiasAndrew
I would like this thread to be for people who truly want to investigate the subject of chemtrails. I would also like to respectfully request that the chemtrail debunkers refrain from interfering with this thread and post their usual anti-chemmie comments elsewhere. Please allow the ATS members who want to discuss this issue and share their personal experiences and the information they have about the subject of chemtrails.


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why did you post this.

What time is it where you are.

Are you a bot. You paste a lot. MathiasAndrew said it would be for people who truly want to investigate chemtrails. and you, bot, can't give me the time of day. Where is the sun. Me, it is a wonderful newmoon.

But new moon is not your bag. So why are you here. Go outside and look up. Report back. And what about the glaciers growing... you said it is happening. Does anyone here support that. No, The Earth is warming.



posted on Apr, 1 2011 @ 04:53 PM
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I just wanted to add that i live by ft.bliss the army base and yesterday the sky was litered with chem trials now today there is none what so ever........... does anyone have info as far as if their is specific dates that they perform these chemtrials?



posted on Apr, 1 2011 @ 04:54 PM
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My observations are somewhat different. The spraying seems to be happening on clear days and in the mornings. I have not noticed a pattern on weekends, although we have had alot of rain this winter. Now that spring is here I will make a point to look for the connection to weekends you have pointed out.



posted on Apr, 1 2011 @ 04:56 PM
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Zipcode is too specific, I'd like for people not to be able to narrow my location down that far, but I'm in the American Southwest (take your pick between Nevada, Arizona, and New Mexico)



posted on Apr, 1 2011 @ 05:03 PM
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Zipcode, I answered your U2U message. Sorry I didn't respond to you sooner ok. It's 3:05 pm here on the Pacific Coast in CA. I'm near San Francisco. I'm not a bot, I'm also currently unemployed that's why I am on here so much.

EDIT:
You're confusing posts made by me and Essan. I qouted myself in that above post in response to Essan.
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posted on Apr, 1 2011 @ 05:15 PM
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Originally posted by vesqui1990
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And regardless if it is real or not this is stuff that needs to stop.


Priceless!!

How the f@@@ can it stop if it isn't real??!!




Deny ignorance?



posted on Apr, 1 2011 @ 05:17 PM
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Originally posted by zipcode80013

If I could dump a load of high octane lead into a b52 back in the day where afterburners burned black


B-52's have never had afterburners, and there's no lead in turbine fuel - never has been AFAIK.




But this thread is something I know about.


But not about B-52 engines apparently!!



I do not believe everything that is posted


So why would you believe all the chemtrail stuff that is posted?



posted on Apr, 1 2011 @ 05:19 PM
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You know were talking about the youtube video right???? lol the things they are doin at this present time are very real. and your right deny ignorance. Look up all the things they speak of on the youtube video and get back to me and tell me which one is not happening. Sorry for the smartness but just look before you type



posted on Apr, 1 2011 @ 05:38 PM
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Originally posted by MathiasAndrew

I know exactly what I'm talking about. It seems that you are the one who doesn't have a clue. ]


Then why have you posted so many completely untrue things?

You have posted quite a bit that was entirely false, do you want us to remind you of some of it?



posted on Apr, 1 2011 @ 05:46 PM
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posted on Apr, 1 2011 @ 05:50 PM
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Thanks im new to this website so thanks for the look out



posted on Apr, 1 2011 @ 05:51 PM
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You not proven anything I said to be false, whatever you want to remind me of go right ahead.

It will still just be your opinion. You have no proof I that I have been wrong about anything.

Everything I have posted supports what I have been saying.




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