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Helicopter water dump on caontained fuel rods a absolute nightmare situation

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posted on Mar, 16 2011 @ 02:17 PM
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I was watching a ucleaar plant preofessional i dont remember the name im sureit isnt secret info however the reason i am posting this is the staement was in regards to the rod storage and the clearance betwee them. If the rods are puashed together by the water volume and velocity it in self will cause a meltdown further pushing the whole plant into an uncotrolable death spiral i will do further research but i have seen again today this plan has now been put into motion wich leads me to think or conclude that the situation has now deteriarated into one of total last ditch efforts . i myself am curious how the new spin will be on this action wich has been stated by the US gov is in motion .

I know I know who said this and where are my sources i just wanted to start the thread i will see if i can find further info NOW>>>>>

www.howeverythingworks.org...

A nuclear reactor operates just below critical mass so that each radioactive decay in its fuel rods induces a large but finite number of subsequent fissions. Since each chain reaction gradually weakens away to nothing, there is no danger that the fuel will explode. But operating just below critical mass is a tricky business and it involves careful control of the environment around the nuclear fuel rods. The operators use neutron absorbing control rods to dampen the chain reactions and keep the fuel just below critical mass.

Fortunately, there are several effects that make controlled operation of a reactor relatively easy. Most importantly, some of the neutrons involved in the chain reactions are delayed because they come from radioactive decay processes. These delayed neutrons slow the reactor's response to changes—the chain reactions take time to grow stronger and they take time to grow weaker. As a result, it's possible for a reactor to exceed critical mass briefly without experiencing the exponentially growing chain reactions that we associate with nuclear explosions. In fact, the only nuclear reactor that ever experienced these exponentially growing chain reactions was Chernobyl. That flawed and mishandled reactor went so far into the super-critical regime that even the neutron delaying effects couldn't prevent exponential chain reactions from occurring. The reactor superheated and ripped itself apart.

Im still looking for the person who stated what ive quoted
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posted on Mar, 16 2011 @ 02:19 PM
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posted on Mar, 16 2011 @ 02:21 PM
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I heard of the "helicopters cooling down reactor", and it did really sound desperate, but thay have changed their minds and are now using firetrucks..

Im getting mixed reports, one newstation is saying radiation is up, and others saying that its low.
And im honestly worryed that im getting mixed info, this is never good..
I have reason to bealive that this wont end well.



posted on Mar, 16 2011 @ 02:23 PM
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This has been reported in Norway as well: Our scientists wonder what they want to achieve by using Helli's.

They also added if they are doing this they have lost control and are desperate and out of other options.



posted on Mar, 16 2011 @ 02:24 PM
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Not sure how reliable the 'chatter' is, but I've heard from various sites American UAVs may be used to gauge what's going on in the core of these reactors via IR Feed.



posted on Mar, 16 2011 @ 02:25 PM
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posted on Mar, 16 2011 @ 02:26 PM
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I've read they were taking infrared scans by unmanned vehicles to check the heath signature and stuff. I also think they are smart enough to don't make it any worse than it is right now.
But isn't an option to dump loads of cement, concrete, lead and cooling liquid on it?



posted on Mar, 16 2011 @ 02:35 PM
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The helicopters were the last attempt to try and fill the containment ponds on #4, too much radiation. They had no way of knowing if the vessel had been compromised or was just boiling off.

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posted on Mar, 16 2011 @ 02:37 PM
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How filling the containment building with small lead balls, the balls would melt and flow around the exposed rods, isolating them from one another. The liquid lead would create a total barrier that would contain the radiation and create a safer enviroment to cool the barrier. Just a thought.



posted on Mar, 16 2011 @ 02:38 PM
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They must be really desperate if they are resorting to this method now.

I really think this is going to be worse than the Ukraine Nuclear Plant Disaster.

Every day we are getting reports on how worse this is becomming.

What is more surprising is that the Japanease Governement Knews there Nuclear Facilities were unsafe.

But thats another topic of discussion.

How long can those in those fire trucks last near that site last, without being hight contaminated with Radiation.



posted on Mar, 16 2011 @ 02:39 PM
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At this point the Japanese government is considering sealing the reactors via concrete dumps from military aricraft. Let's hope it works!

Source: Rising Radiation Levels Halt Work at Fukushima Plant
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posted on Mar, 16 2011 @ 02:42 PM
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Originally posted by Fazza!
At this point the Japanese government is considering sealing the reactors via concrete dumps from military aricraft. Let's hope it works!

Source: Rising Radiation Levels Halt Work at Fukushima Plant
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That is a last fase, just like in cernobyl, they should of done this a long time ago.
If they are doing this then it's uncotroled meltdown and they lost control over all the reactors.



posted on Mar, 16 2011 @ 02:45 PM
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What makes you think they have not lost control already?

They lied before, so what makes you think they are not lying again.

Resorting to these desperate measures, makes me to assume there is no win win situation in this.

There is going to far reaching conqenquences as, A result.



posted on Mar, 16 2011 @ 10:53 PM
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in Chernobyl evidently the Russians poor construction helped them after a huge failure god looking out .?????????

o geeze i said god here it comes
no im not religious.

they seem to be running out of options is part of my op, but this was a very clear statement that the fuel rods could be pushed closer then there already minimal clearances causing actual fission. which means something worse then Chernobyl kind of odd how safety has backfired ?

i just saw the person state it on TV i am no professional nor do i have a clue


just seems there is no cover up more of a Well/wall of mass government panic con fissionJ i know its snot a joke but this forum is all that keeps me from being a total unaware mess im a family guy and if push comes to shove i wouldn’t believe anyone here especially over what the government says i know im naturally sketched about the gov. state we live in and ATS IS NOT PRO GOV< BY ANY MEANS nor am I really but at the end of the day they know and are more in control then any of us just a Mere chatter of words there disinfo non disclosure speaks for itself and once it gets bad enough they arr reluctantly honest they have no choice but to speak some what clearly.
the truth the whole truth will never be disclosed for our good or theirs we must rely on the fine line is my opinion

im a man just one no further or better then the rest but refuse to join the tin foil hats my perspective is that of the whole collective masses we must all just stick together.

YEAYEA I SPELLEd kinda correct because i am serious not just speaking whiels i typiss
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posted on Mar, 16 2011 @ 11:07 PM
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This is a absolute joke, where are all the people saying the reactors were still intact they obviously must be open to the air or otherwise dumping water from a helicopter would be completely useless and if they are open to the air for afew days wich people on this forum and the news were saying isnt so, dumping a sprinkle of water on it it is a futile effort. Now im hearing the u.s specialists are on the ground, yaa good one maybe they can help with the cover up like in 3mile thats what the u.s specialize in



posted on Mar, 16 2011 @ 11:13 PM
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i truly hope that they understand this isnt the past any gov cover up at this point is futile i understand your angry face
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posted on Mar, 16 2011 @ 11:18 PM
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Sorry folks I don't think this is a water dump, but a Neutron absorber.

Let's compare and you tell me what you think.



Look familiar? Chernobyl




posted on Mar, 16 2011 @ 11:28 PM
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hey mods its me the DIohhhck (meant to say im not crazy tonight lol) why when i type sorry not type click on your symbols a smiley or sad face does it only show after the end of my posting words if i click after I am editing . something i don’t do well?

after my recent troubles please understand i am only trumping
no anxiety or malicious contempt just love the symbols instead of my sailor mouth.





i really mean nothing bad or mean but is it a part of the program or just how it is????????

hmmmmm i forgot my train of thought but why any who o i remember i have to copy and paste after the fat from the last line / lie
typed

seriously
Be Well
Triple
i wish i could not have to insert the face when i edit cause everyone hates my grammar and spelling even though im an imagine this English najor . No im gonna leave that one lol; in real type! lol

no insults just i see this as more of a one on world conversation (didn’t want to spell CONVO but I did lol) conversation is easier ? god I see where the kids are going with this language then CLASS IN intellectualism

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posted on Mar, 16 2011 @ 11:36 PM
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They need to bring in a construction crane mounted water cannon or a firefighting snorkel truck.
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Add a camera and they could see what is happening



posted on Mar, 16 2011 @ 11:43 PM
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yep sorry about that but this hole thing is making me angry and the fact they are covering things up and a drip feeding the information to us is makeing it worse i have afew Japanese friends who are worried about their family and who are cursing the japan government right now. seems like the monetary and economic concerns are right above the concerns for peoples lives.




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