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Originally posted by phreak_of_nature
So this is not your first run in with the good folks at FR? Seems they want very badly to implicate you or your site as something more nefarious then what it may actually be.
Sean Osborn might be a member as I recall, but I am not. I was notified of
the same controversy at "Free Republic" this weekend, an apparent
"spillover" from your forum and sent a personal, pointed response to a
member there based on our relationship. I am forwarding my reply, in its
entirety, to you below. Frankly, if I had to "defend" myself or the
information we submit to the authorities every time someone had questions, I
would be able to do little else. Feel free to re-publish my response - in
its entirety, but I am not inclined to join or post to other forums as I
simply do not have the time. Below is my response to member at Free
The Above was his reply to my Email, He is talking about sean being a member on ATS, not him.
I just now had the time to check you alerting me to the discussion on FR TM
thread, which apparently had grown quite a bit since your original
notification. I also followed the links to the external sites, and see that
there are a lot of people who claim to have all of the answers about this
video. Perhaps I can help clear up any misconceptions about the video and
other related issues. Please read the following very carefully, and feel
free to quote me publicly, but only without editing my response or
excerpting anything as I wish nothing to be taken out of context.
1. As a FR member myself with no time to post and only skim headlines there
at best, I had NO idea there was such a controversy over the video. Quite
simply, both Laura and Jill found the same video, except that Jill was able
to save it to her hard drive while Laura was not at that time. Jill
graciously provided the video to Laura in its complete and unedited version.
2. While going through the video, Laura stopped it at a certain point to
grab a frame for illustration purposes for our site. The point where it was
stopped was somewhat arbitrary, but based in part on a subtle difference in
the "flow" of the video. It was at this point that the video was advanced
slowly to a frame where the alpha-numeric code was found on a single frame.
3. Following that find, Laura contacted me by cell; at that time, I was with
another investigative analyst and we went to his office to view the video
that was now present on our server. We found the frame and code (as well as
other code stings in additional frames later). I notified two of my federal
LE contacts in DC by telephone, and subsequently provided the video and
frame capture to one federal agent at his request.
4. Upon returning to my office, we had a conference call between analysts.
It was at that point we opted to post the image (code included) on our site
for public viewing. Based on a series of previous events NOT PUBLICLY KNOWN
or stated anywhere, including in our fee-based newsletter, we did so with
the belief that it could have the potential to alert those who might have
placed the code as an operational command that their plans were detected,
thereby giving LE time to act or react. It was purely a judgment call on our
5. A careful analysis using video analysis software suitable for court
presentation and authentication, I found several additional frames
containing different alpha-numeric strings, an endeavor that took me most of
the night. I notified my federal contact of the exact locations of each
frame and forwarded the results to him in a second email the next morning.
6. Approximately 36 hours later, I received an informal request to remove
the frame from the front page of our website as we cooperate with legitimate
law enforcement requests. One might ask why it remains on other sites - I
cannot answer that question or speak for other site operators. During the
contact with LE, however, he stated that this is not an atypical method of
communication by computer-savvy "terrorists" and has been in use long before
the events of 9/11.
7. The implication (and in some aspects, outright accusations) that Jill
from her own site, Laura, myself, or anyone else connected with the
Northeast Intelligence Network either fell for an elaborate hoax or
perpetuated the same is unfortunate - and totally incorrect. If that were
the case, apparently federal LE officials are complicit in the hoax as well,
which is ludicrous.
8. As an aside, I find it interesting that some members of FR, an
organization which promotes capitalism and free enterprise, have a problem
with our organization offering a fee-based newsletter. The newsletter
contains information relating to in-depth investigation of terrorist issues
dropped by the media or completely unreported. All critical information is
NOT shielded from the public and is always reported on our site for
everyone's use. Our newsletter provides in-depth reporting, in many cases
where I or other qualified investigators actually travel to locations,
conduct in-person interviews, and THAT takes time and money. It does not
contain regurgitated Internet information, People want information for free?
Simple answer - don't subscribe.
I hope that clears up most of the questions raised.
Director, Northeast Intelligence Network
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