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TA-ANALYSIS: 'Code' Found in Latest bin Laden Video Could be Hoax

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posted on Jul, 23 2004 @ 01:56 PM
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Hello everyone, this is my first post so bear with me...I've been trolling a while but I thought you might find this intresting...

I was reading this thread and noticed that the hexidecimal conversion Aeon10101110 did looks a lot like 4 different IP addresses except in binary instead of Base10:




Almost without doubt, it's hexadecimal:

1ab02d188bc35723620e2406b7234504


For what it's worth, the binary equivalent:

00011010.10110000.00101101.00011000.
10001011.11000011.01010111.00100011.
01100010.00001110.00100100.00000110.
10110111.00100011.01000101.00000100


I did a quick conversion on these to Base10...the results are:

00011010.10110000.00101101.00011000 = 26.176.45.24
10001011.11000011.01010111.00100011 = 139.195.87.35
01100010.00001110.00100100.00000110 = 98.14.36.6
10110111.00100011.01000101.00000100 = 183.35.69.4

Now the 2nd, 3rd, and 4th numbers (top to bottom) are not really interesting. 98.14.36.6 and 183.35.69.4 have no resolved DNS and are still listed as being assigned ranges to IANA (essentially un-assigned).

I can not seem to find ANY information on 139.195.87.35 at all, it may not be a valid IP at all. I can not even find a range assignment for it.

Now the intresting part:

Address 26.176.45.24 and all address beginning with the 26 octet belong to the Department of Defense...

Now that is probably just coincidence...



I can't really see any reason for even using 4 ip's as some type of activation code unless of course they would have translated to ip address' for websites that belong to landmarks or other potential targets...

If the hex code is real to begin with...



posted on Jul, 23 2004 @ 02:28 PM
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hello,

I already wrote this in my blog. Or at least tried to. Here my current theory about the origin of the number sequence:

February 24th 2003 at 22:41 somebody searched on AOL for 'americanpitbulls' with this URL:

aolsearch.aol.com...

And he/she found twexus. Twexus thought that everything between encquery= and & was the search string. So it started to 'remember' it. Why do I know? The database takes note when which
term got added, and what the source is. Actually the IP of this page view in question belongs to AOL, so not much more to know from there.

1AB02D188BC35723620E2406B7234504 is nothing more and nothing less than the ISO-8859-1 version of the term: americanpitbulls. Try it: go to the URL above. then change any of the numbers in the the long string. You will find that one of the characters get funny.

I think that twexus is the only place on the web that ever contained this string. Why would anybody encode americanpitbulls in ISO-8859-1 (and then convert it in hex like AOL did).
With a hex string of this length its it is not reasonable to think that it would contain any other information, or that it could have any other meaning.

Now it gets speculative:

I think that somebody thought (not knowing about the simple solution) that this code would be some magic info. Somebody thought that it would be twexus / terrorist way of transporting information. Which is a very stupid assumption for a giziliion reasons. But there are people literally believing in this theory. They might have thought if they combine that magic code with the OBL video that then somebody would figure out what this number combo means ...
They had no way of knowing that the solution for 1AB02D188BC35723620E2406B7234504 is so simple and easy and non dramatic.

[*g* I only wanted to make an art installation that would reflect on search engines, somehow it got out of control]

:-)

hope this helps ...

Andreas



posted on Jul, 23 2004 @ 03:01 PM
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As I first though, this code IS fake.

There is no "code" on the video file at all, on any of the frames in question.

Please feel free to check this yourself. I'm not sure of my bandwidth limits on this host, so if it goes down let me know. Please Right Click/Save to your own computer.

Here is the original zip file (28meg) as allegedly posted by Al-Quaeda.LINK FIXED
*EDIT : this file came from Jill St Claire's site, and was purported by her to contain the code. It is PAL format, 25 frames per second(50 fields per second), 720x576 resolution.*

Here is the unzipped version of the original movie, avi version (DivX required) unzipped (37meg), ready to play.

And here is a High Quality Quicktime Movie (5meg), clip, showing the portion of the video that allegedly contained the code. It's about 150 odd frames long. If you have a quicktime player you can shuttle through it yourself, frame by frame, using the cursor keys.

In the meantime, thanks to news4u02 and Vortex, who helped me source and decode the file.



[edit on 23-7-2004 by muppet]

[edit on 24-7-2004 by muppet]

[edit on 24-7-2004 by muppet]



posted on Jul, 23 2004 @ 03:10 PM
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So there is no code on any of those frames? The still shots had them manually typed in?

Interesting.



posted on Jul, 23 2004 @ 03:16 PM
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Yup. exactly. As for who did it, and why... that remains to be discovered.



posted on Jul, 23 2004 @ 03:23 PM
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Thankyou Muppet and everyone else that has helped.


A hoax.

Why??

Well we can believe that two right wing websites were duped.

Or.

That this was a deliberate attempt at disimformation.

I guess we must ask who actually benefits from perpetuating fear.

I'll be generous and say I think it's a bit of both.Those that "feed" these sites with "exclusives" and "inside imformation" have an agenda.Those that run these sites are sympathetic to that agenda and are only too willing to believe.

These views are my own.

JB1



posted on Jul, 23 2004 @ 03:26 PM
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Hi twexus!

welcome aboard. It looks like your interactive artwork took on a real life of it's own!
You should be proud of your baby.. I bet you never expected this! Thanks for the explanation. I'd like to say it all makes sense now, but to be honest every revelation here is just adding to the mystery..


Hopefully you'll enjoy this place and stick around.


[edit on 23-7-2004 by muppet]



posted on Jul, 23 2004 @ 03:45 PM
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Now I feel like a terd for having been duped by it.


But I guess it's better to get it out there and either have it proved or dis-proved.

@John Bull1

Well we can believe that two right wing websites were duped.

Or.

That this was a deliberate attempt at disimformation.

I guess we must ask who actually benefits from perpetuating fear.


I would say the people who benefit from it, or those you ask you to pay for the "Super Secret" info.

To be honest... I probably will continue to read NEIN, I will just pull my skeptic hat down tight before I do, & think thrice before I submit anything from there to ATS.



posted on Jul, 23 2004 @ 03:49 PM
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Originally posted by phreak_of_nature
Now I feel like a terd for having been duped by it.




Why feel bad about it, phreak?
You brought it to the attention of the "freaks" here who just want the truth. In brigning it up, the truth seems to have been found.
If I were you, I'd feel quite proud.



posted on Jul, 23 2004 @ 03:55 PM
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Originally posted by phreak_of_nature
Now I feel like a terd for having been duped by it.



Hey don't feel bad. The secret code concept sounded quite legitimate..... It's been a fun and enlightening experience.
Thanks for posting the story!



posted on Jul, 23 2004 @ 04:03 PM
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So once again the truth comes out at ATSNN/ATS. Muppet, I would be able to host it if need be. I am having problems with one of my Email accounts, so I did not get the video. Good work to all involved.



posted on Jul, 23 2004 @ 04:20 PM
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[quote]And he/she found twexus. [/quote]
How about Clipgate?



posted on Jul, 23 2004 @ 04:33 PM
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Originally posted by Banshee
Why feel bad about it, phreak?
You brought it to the attention of the "freaks" here who just want the truth. In brigning it up, the truth seems to have been found.
If I were you, I'd feel quite proud.


All credit needs to go to muppet for exposing the hoax.

Now I guess the next part of this is who is the hoaxer? The trail of this video isn't very long, as fas as we know, so perhaps it won't be difficult to nail it down.

muppet: I'd give ya a "way above" if I hadn't used them all up for this month.



posted on Jul, 23 2004 @ 04:45 PM
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If I may make a quick point of clarification, the code is not "americanpitbulls" encoded in ISO-8859-1 (Latin-1).


code: 1A B0 2D 18 8B C3 57 23 62 0E 24 06 B7 23 45 04
text: a m e r i c a n p i t b u l l s
8859-1: 61 6d 65 72 69 63 61 6e 70 69 74 62 75 6c 6c 73

I'm not sure what type of encoding AOL is using here, but another thing to notice is that none of the hex duples are repeated in the "code," while several characters are repeated in the text.

Please note that I am not suggesting that the code is legit; muppet's and twexus' points are still quite valid. I'm just curious as to the type of encoding being used.

[edit on 7/23/2004 by PurdueNuc]



posted on Jul, 23 2004 @ 04:49 PM
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Originally posted by phreak_of_nature
Now I feel like a terd for having been duped by it.




Yeah, but you're our turd! LOL..



posted on Jul, 23 2004 @ 05:02 PM
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Originally posted by PurdueNuc
If I may make a quick point of clarification, the code is not "americanpitbulls" encoded in ISO-8859-1 (Latin-1).


code: 1A B0 2D 18 8B C3 57 23 62 0E 24 06 B7 23 45 04
text: a m e r i c a n p i t b u l l s
8859-1: 61 6d 65 72 69 63 61 6e 70 69 74 62 75 6c 6c 73

I'm not sure what type of encoding AOL is using here, but another thing to notice is that none of the hex duples are repeated in the "code," while several characters are repeated in the text.
[edit on 7/23/2004 by PurdueNuc]


I'm interested in this too to be honest. It could be nothing at all, but then again why let all that code solving practice from "hunt the rings" go to waste? Go PurdueNuc!



posted on Jul, 23 2004 @ 05:03 PM
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Originally posted by Valhall

Originally posted by phreak_of_nature
Now I feel like a terd for having been duped by it.




Yeah, but you're our turd! LOL..


Thanks Val.
Should I go lay in the yard?



posted on Jul, 23 2004 @ 05:12 PM
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Thanks Val.
Should I go lay in the yard?


Well, NO silly! But could you please stay away from the punchbowl? *
*



posted on Jul, 23 2004 @ 05:24 PM
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Originally posted by John bull 1
Thankyou Muppet and everyone else that has helped.


A hoax.

Why??

Well we can believe that two right wing websites were duped.

Or.

That this was a deliberate attempt at disimformation.

I guess we must ask who actually benefits from perpetuating fear.

I'll be generous and say I think it's a bit of both.Those that "feed" these sites with "exclusives" and "inside imformation" have an agenda.Those that run these sites are sympathetic to that agenda and are only too willing to believe.

These views are my own.

JB1



I just wanted to clarify what I said.

I'm not suggesting that FR is in involved in disimformation.I see that they have robust and critical dialogue there.A member called Iron Eagle there especially raises some very interesting points.

The problem is that the medium of the internet is extremely vulnerable to hoaxes or disimformation and there is very little accountability.

Remember that Rumsfeld tried to set up a disimformation agency but had to withdraw it.The internet is the most deniable media to distribute fear.

I saw it asked why it is that NEIN charges money for imformation that claims to be in the vital national interest.I would say this.It only takes one person to pay for it and the the details appear all over the internet and doesn't it seem more real because the imformation is exclusive only to those that pay?

Take the nukes in strategic positions across the U.S.A story,a story that NEIN claims to be true.Is it not the same conspiracy story seen across many boards? But your more likely to believe it because you're paying for it.

It's what people fear so it is what is delivered.

I ask you all this.Why pay $25 for this fiction when you can go and read a very good short story on this board on the Collaborative Fiction Forum?

These are my thoughts.

JB1

[edit on 23-7-2004 by John bull 1]



posted on Jul, 23 2004 @ 06:06 PM
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Originally posted by John bull 1
The problem is that the medium of the internet is extremely vulnerable to hoaxes or disimformation and there is very little accountability.
Remember that Rumsfeld tried to set up a disimformation agency but had to withdraw it.The internet is the most deniable media to distribute fear.


I agree. Thankfully it's also a haven for hoax busters, and you only have to catch a liar lying once.

On the other point. wasn't the first press release by the disinformation agency a statement the agency no longer existed? I thought that was priceless at the time!




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