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TA-ANALYSIS: 'Code' Found in Latest bin Laden Video Could be Hoax

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posted on Jul, 30 2004 @ 06:48 PM
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Jill St Claire

It has come to my attention that you may not be who you say you are.

If you would be so kind as to provide your initials.

Yes, i know them, someone provided me with them. There should be no problem on that front.

I expect a reply.




posted on Jul, 31 2004 @ 12:04 AM
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Mr. Walker registered his site "c/o Method", the address and phone are listed in Santa Monica. He registered the site for seven years. Naturally, the address and phone number could be fakes. The domain name has been his since pre-9-11. (March 2000).

His site is registered through Digilink Network Services, located in Marina Del Ray, CA. Interestingly, no zip codes are given. Most ISP's list a zip code.

***Coincidentally, his site contact information was last updated Fri, July 30th at 1910 hrs.******


Random peeks at IP address listed within his IP range turned up nothing.

samspade.org...

You all probably knew all of this.

[edit on 31-7-2004 by dotgov101]



posted on Jul, 31 2004 @ 12:54 AM
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Jill,

Thank You again for coming back. I sent you an E-Mail before I read this thread. I apologize for any inconveniences this may have caused you personally. However, I firmly believe you were not a personal attack. The events in question have gone around the moon and back again. At first, we only heard of "One" video, which was obtained by Muppet, from someone at TM, who downloaded the video in question from your site, then forwarded it to him. After his analysis of the video, the code did not appear in it, only on the .jpg from NEIN. I personally have contacted yourself, Doug(NEIN) and Laura(NEIN) over this matter. It was awhile before I recieved anything from Doug, I still haven't heard from Laura, and we have had some discussions on this matter.

It was only a couple of days ago, that the second video was brought out. We have still not seen this video(that I know of), but I have talked to Jills source at the JTTF and he does confirm that the video was received and sent for further anaylsis. He was not able to comment on anything else involving this video.

Had we been privied to their being two videos from day one, this would be an entirely different scenerio, from my standpoint. Unfortunately that is not the case.

In my opinion, the JTTF would not send the video for further analysis if nothing was there. So there is 2 videos. If NEIN took down the code at the request of authorities, I don't think they would want anyone else receiving this video, however, a pic is still up on our site with the code on it.

Someone mentioned silence speaks volumes, not one person, other than yourself has come here, or contacted us(that I know of) over this. This in my opinion hurts credibility to a big degree, and I believe is one thing that played a huge factor since this broke. If theres nothing to hide, why not talk? I understand the frustration, especially in the early stages of this, but nobody else has come forward. It makes you wonder why.

I have spent night and day trying to get all this straight, I am burned out.... I still have a tiny reservation on this because I personally have not seen the video, yet the information I have learned leads me to believe that there are two videos, and we had the one without the embedded text. I believe I was right early on based with the info that was presented before me, and I defend the members of this site for coming to the same conclusions based on this evidance. As it looks now, I WAS WRONG.

Can we please get past this?

Kevin



posted on Jul, 31 2004 @ 01:53 AM
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Originally posted by dotgov101
Mr. Walker registered his site "c/o Method", the address and phone are listed in Santa Monica. He registered the site for seven years. Naturally, the address and phone number could be fakes. The domain name has been his since pre-9-11. (March 2000).

His site is registered through Digilink Network Services, located in Marina Del Ray, CA. Interestingly, no zip codes are given. Most ISP's list a zip code.

***Coincidentally, his site contact information was last updated Fri, July 30th at 1910 hrs.******


Random peeks at IP address listed within his IP range turned up nothing.

samspade.org...

You all probably knew all of this.

[edit on 31-7-2004 by dotgov101]



If you are quoting simple whois information, then please do so correctly, and seperate the output from your speculations.

1. "Mr. Walker" is simply not the right name.
2. "Naturally the address and phone number could be fakes" What happened, did google and your phone break in the same time?
3. "The domain name has been his since pre-9-11. (March 2000)." Most things on this planet happened "pre-9-11"
4. "Interestingly, no zip codes are given." c'mon
5. "***Coincidentally, his site contact information was last updated Fri, July 30th at 1910 hrs.****** " this is the timestamp of the whois database that your 'tool' sampspade.org queried. It will show this for all records.

I don't want to start trouble about this, these are minor details after all. But they are nevertheless wrong. And on top of that a good example out of which combination of 'skill & intention' this whole secret code thing came.



posted on Jul, 31 2004 @ 04:50 AM
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I was only trying to help. It was 12AM local time and I'm sorry that I got Wacker and Walker mistaken. I left the link as evidence.

The reason why I said the addresses and phone numbers could be fake is because I've registered my domains under false names, and have caught others trying to do so POST 9/11. I tracked one query from an al-Qaeda chat room to an elementary school in the mid-west as a job I did a few years ago.

I'm not an idiot. I'm just trying to make sense of this thread, and was only trying to help. Sorry for trying. If you can't determine whether or not it's real, why are you attacking me with technicalities?

[edit on 31-7-2004 by dotgov101]



posted on Jul, 31 2004 @ 10:27 AM
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don't worry dotgov.. there's a simple explanation. Andreas Wacker IS Twexus! hence his knowledge of clipgate etc!!



posted on Jul, 31 2004 @ 03:32 PM
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Originally posted by dotgov101
I was only trying to help. It was 12AM local time and I'm sorry that I got Wacker and Walker mistaken. I left the link as evidence.

The reason why I said the addresses and phone numbers could be fake is because I've registered my domains under false names, and have caught others trying to do so POST 9/11. I tracked one query from an al-Qaeda chat room to an elementary school in the mid-west as a job I did a few years ago.

I'm not an idiot. I'm just trying to make sense of this thread, and was only trying to help. Sorry for trying. If you can't determine whether or not it's real, why are you attacking me with technicalities?

[edit on 31-7-2004 by dotgov101]


muppet is right. I would not say that i AM a website. Yet i am related ;-)
Sorry, that I did not make that clearer in my response.

dotgov101:
I understand that you are trying to help. I just feel that your 'information' was actually a wild mix out of real whois data (that is public btw) and you interpretations. Some of them (like the point 5) are just plain wrong and misleading.

This thread has something to do with finding the truth, isn't it? So please don't feel offended when you indicate things that are not true, and somebody corrects you.

You will find examples in this thread of people saying (including me) that they were wrong. In order to close in on the truth this is needed at times. It is not fun, but its needed.



posted on Jul, 31 2004 @ 03:57 PM
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I've been watching the last few replies, and I think it's time for me to chime in.

dotgov101, thanks for joining the effort to figure this whole thing out. I am sure that you will have a lot to offer. (I read your introduction)


As far as the whois goes... Click the link. Wait 30 seconds, refresh the page. The Last Updated time will change. Nothing evil there. I did it about 5 times to make sure.



posted on Jul, 31 2004 @ 05:46 PM
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I was only trying to put in my $0.02

I felt like a dumb-dumb all day at work, and it was really nice to come home and see that I had not been absconded.

I think I'll just read members' input for a bit. The who'swho part is confusing, and I consider myself somewhat of a fledgling (sp??) on this site.


What a looonnngg day.
Me.



posted on Jul, 31 2004 @ 08:03 PM
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Originally posted by dotgov101
I was only trying to put in my $0.02

I felt like a dumb-dumb all day at work, and it was really nice to come home and see that I had not been absconded.

I think I'll just read members' input for a bit. The who'swho part is confusing, and I consider myself somewhat of a fledgling (sp??) on this site.


What a looonnngg day.
Me.


As the saying goes, the only dumb questions are the ones that are not asked. Sometimes a "Fresh" pair of eyes can change a whole situation. Keep posting and commenting throughout ATS.

Trick



posted on Aug, 1 2004 @ 03:13 AM
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I wanted to say reading your thread, I am amazed at the hardwork you all do in the search for truth

[edit on 1-8-2004 by pharmtech]


LL1

posted on Aug, 1 2004 @ 04:26 PM
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Aeon10101110,
Could you kindly take a look at the below link and what appears to be the seem/like "binary equivalent"...
Any ideas?


Originally posted by Aeon10101110
Almost without doubt, it's hexadecimal:

1ab02d188bc35723620e2406b7234504


For what it's worth, the binary equivalent:

00011010.10110000.00101101.00011000.
10001011.11000011.01010111.00100011.
01100010.00001110.00100100.00000110.
10110111.00100011.01000101.00000100

internet-haganah.us...



posted on Aug, 1 2004 @ 04:47 PM
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Originally posted by LL1
Aeon10101110,
Could you kindly take a look at the below link and what appears to be the seem/like "binary equivalent"...
Any ideas?


Originally posted by Aeon10101110
Almost without doubt, it's hexadecimal:

1ab02d188bc35723620e2406b7234504


For what it's worth, the binary equivalent:

00011010.10110000.00101101.00011000.
10001011.11000011.01010111.00100011.
01100010.00001110.00100100.00000110.
10110111.00100011.01000101.00000100

internet-haganah.us...


Doesn't seem to match any of the 4 different ones.
What I did was first notice that each row was comprised of the same 2 digits repeated left to right, or right to left either way.

Then read a single column from top to bottom you get this
101001110110110010100110100111

Bottom to top
110110100110100011100111011010

Even if you invert each combination
Top to bottom
010110111001110001011001011011
Bottom to top
111001011001010011011011100101

Also doesn't seem to match any of the 4 strings.


LL1

posted on Aug, 1 2004 @ 04:50 PM
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Thank you !
As the map appears to be Manhattan, and after the current "Alert", I'm very concerned.



posted on Aug, 1 2004 @ 05:02 PM
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Yeah, that map is a little spooky. I had seen it before, and thought that the little red "blasts" looked like mushroom clouds.

Has anyone tried to match them to locations that were just alerted to?



posted on Aug, 1 2004 @ 05:27 PM
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CONTENT MOVED.

[edit on 8-1-2004 by Valhall]


LL1

posted on Aug, 1 2004 @ 05:29 PM
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CONTENT MOVED.

[edit on 8-1-2004 by Valhall]



posted on Aug, 1 2004 @ 05:31 PM
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CONTENT MOVED.

[edit on 8-1-2004 by Valhall]


LL1

posted on Aug, 1 2004 @ 05:35 PM
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CONTENT MOVED.

[edit on 8-1-2004 by Valhall]



posted on Aug, 1 2004 @ 05:36 PM
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CONTENT MOVED.

[edit on 8-1-2004 by Valhall]



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