Any woman having problems with their menses, or getting Pregnant? lets try something together

This is a HUGE problem! 2/3 of the population is nearly infertile, Some of them can still reproduce, but it takes up to 5 years to do so, our parents and grandparents never had a problem like this. It can be very frightening to us, but at the same time we can be counting our blessings too.

Less unwanted children is never a bad thing, and I know from myself, i would much rather adopt today, and if I got pregnant when i was younger, i probably would still feel the same way, but not be able to financially take on another child; and so, miss out on that opportunity. Much like my mother, at the age she was, more then one child is not an option for many people these days. With the hurdles in place, adoption sometimes feel like an option for only those who are well off. and so again, for myself I think of this is a blessing more then a cures.

anyways, adoption works for me, but that is not why im posing, i have POCS, and the WORST kind. I cannot get a period at ALL!! EVER!! and this early teenage illness had caused alot of other problems to follow into adult-hood. I would give anything to be healthy and get even an irregular period without taking birth-control. and some of you, im sure would give anything to have a regular period without all the stress of not knowing if you are getting one or not this month. I have seen a naturopathic doctor and he was not interested in all my other health concerns, he seemed to be only be interested in me getting my periods. but it didn't work. Now i am seeing an acupuncturist and she is the same! her number one priority is me getting my periods. She thinks because i am older, that it might be too late, she thinks i should have come to see her years ago, and i would have had a better chance. My acupuncturist tells me almost everytime i visit her that most of her patients are having the same problems as I am, and she cant believe the number of woman who are not functioning properly.

So i had and idea!! I am going to try something, and any woman (or men if infertility is on your end) who are interested in trying with me, feel free to introduce yourself, and after trying, we can post our results and see if it worked for anyone. If its a complete fail, well there is no harm in trying right?

The moon is going to be the closest to the earth on March 17th to March 21st For woman this is very important as that is when we get our Menses or Ovulate. Some woman get their Menses other ovulate, other woman get their menses on the New moon, or ovulate on the New moon.

If you want to get Pregnant, then you need to eat a healthy diet, and have sex like rabbits during these 4 days. If you want to get pregnant, and you are having your period on this full moon then put your mind at ease, because it might take a while for you to get pregnant, but be grateful that you still get your period. this a sign that you are healthy, you just might not be listening to your body. anyways try this and let us know if it worked in about 2 weeks to a month following the moon. I will be happy to send my congrats.

If you are irregular (like me) it will be a little harder, I have a few ideas i would like to try. Because i wish more then anything to be healthy i figure there is not hard in trying.

-during these 4 days i am going to take it easy, and try not to stress out about anything if i can, stress has been such a big problem of mine since i was a child, and i am choosing to just "let it all go" for those 4 days.
-I am going to get my loving husband to give me some messages to help me Relax even more.
-I am going to see my acupuncturist.
-I am going to meditate twice a day and send healing energy towards my root, Sacral and solar plexus chakras.
-I am going to try Mantras to help balance my chakars.
-Im going to meditate and pray for the world, and send out loving/healing energy towards all the people who are going to get hit hard by earth quakes and Tsunami's because of this magnetic pull. and pray for those who in Japan who have been hit already.
-I am going to eat a vegetarian anti-ox diet and make sure i take my vitamins and exercise.
-I am going to send out general good vibes these 4 days and not let myself experience any form of negative PMS such as irritability anger or other negative emotions that my hinder my healing.

So i am going to try this, and i believe it might actually work!
I have been free from birth-control for more then 6 months, So wish me luck in getting my first natural period with out the use of BC. (which is not the safest of drugs to be using everyday anyways)
and anyone who is interested it trying these things with me, feel free to introduce yourself.
thank you for taking the time to read all of this

I wish you luck in your quest for a baby. Me, that was never a problem; I could get pregnant by washing my husband's underwear! My daughter sort of came to me in a dream and she looked exactly the same on the day she was born; my little force of nature. Sometimes not worrying about it or trying so hard can make it happen. Probably not the best words of advice but I do hope you can have a child of your own. Good luck.

I am extremely tired when i wrote this, but i had to write it before i went to sleep or im sure it would have kept me up all night, but maybe it was hard to understand or maybe you just didn't read it and assumed you knew what i wrote.

Im not interested in having a baby, I have never had my periods in my LIFE with out the use of drugs. I hope, the damage is not too far along, and i hope to get my FIRST Menses this month!

unfortunately, menses is nothing like trying to get pregnant, its not something you just forget about and suddenly it comes when you least expect it.. well maybe for healthy people maybe, but i have done that for far to many years and now Im being told I SHOULD have done something sooner. That i might be too late.

Me and my missus tried for about 6 months and got the deed done, but then we don't live in the over medicated US and eat healthily.

Besides, it's fun trying for a baby and once the deed is done, you won't be getting much for several months at least so get all the humping in now!

I do find it hard to believe though that 2/3rds of the population is infertile. That seems a little excessive.

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I'm not trying to get pregnant, but I do have PCOS and wanted to wish you luck!!! My sis has PCOS as well and has had a horrible time trying to conceive. She has been trying for years, with no luck.

I was able to have children, but getting pregnant was pure hell! I know the disappointment that comes month after month. It's heartbreaking.

I think what you are doing is a great idea and I wish you all the luck in the world!

ETA: I see that you aren't trying to conceive, but I still wish ya luck with conquering PCOS! Best of luck to everyone else out there who is trying to get pregnant also!

Are you seeing a Specialist OP?
You can get pregnant when you have PCOS. Are you on Metformin? Have you had an HSG or Lap to check your tubes?

May I make a few suggestions for you?

Please look into taking;
-Vitamin K

-A far larger dose than is recommended of cod liver oil with natural Vitamin A in it - in the 60,000-80,000 ui range

-Taking coconut oil everyday - this is for the medium-chain fatty acids AND the cholesterol. Plant cholesterol has an unfair reputation, and you need cholesterol to be properly fertile. Particularly your male partner.

(if he's taking cholesterol drugs, or is on a very low cholesterol diet, have him start supplementing his diet with good cholesterols and get off the drugs. sperm require cholesterol to be produced and work properly.)

May I suggest the Weston A. Price Foundation to you? Much of what they have to say is very counter to what we are being told today about diet and fertility.

And may I suggest that you treat yourself as if you are a diabetic? People with the metabolic disorders which are contributing to PCOS in our population have bodies which act like somewhat like diabetic bodies, without being diabetic.

You need to take control of your insulin cycles. Most women with PCOS who have successful fertility treatments are being treated with medications which control their insulin cycles. You can take a page from the proven medical successes. Cinnamon, holy basil, relora, chasteberry all have potential to help with this. But mostly, finding a way to return yourself to a diet much closer to your ancestors is likely to be the most helpful here.

Hmmm....I'm forgetting something important, and can't seem to pull it out of my neural network. If I remember, I'll post it.

I have three children, and I'm done. I am not PCOS. But every doctor seems to think I should be. You might say, they seem to think of me as being "pre-pcos." Consistently for the last 25 years.

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thank you so much! and again, Im not trying to get pregnant! I just thought if there was anyone out there who was, they could try and do this with me Im sure it would work for them too!!

but i hope other with POCS are interested in trying to get their period with out the use of drugs and would like to try this with me.

thank you for taking the time to wish me luck.

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And may I suggest that you treat yourself as if you are a diabetic? People with the metabolic disorders which are contributing to PCOS in our population have bodies which act like somewhat like diabetic bodies, without being diabetic.

interesting that you posted that. my cousin is the same age as me, She does not have POCS, but was irregular, but she "WANTED" to get pregnant so she asked her doctor. and the first thing that they wanted to try on her was some diabetic pill. and it worked, So she didn't have to go threw the hell im sure some woman go threw to find out why they cant have children. Diabetes runs in our family and I happen to think everyone should follow a diabetic diet as I believe it is one of the Healthiest diets to follow.

I LOVE coconut oil and eat it every day or smear it on my body, I used to take Vit A, but it never worked.. and i found out later it wasnt just cod liver oil, but there was all this other stuff in it, and i had no idea what i was taking!!! I never tried Vit K. I guess i could give it a try. I just started taking coQ 10 as i heard an 83 year old woman got her periods back after taking it. and no she wasn't just bleeding, she got a regular menses each month. I happen to believe that menopause is one of the first signs of ill health caused by old age, and so i think this is an amazing break threw story that hardly anyone has heard.

since its OTC so i will give it a try. I dont want to be taking to many vitamins as i am doin this for health reasons and im not a big believer of taking many crushed rocks, my blood work has always said i am decent condition.

There are reasons why most of the population is suffering fertility problems. Most GM foods these days is infertile and it is near impossible to avoid in the food chain these days. BPA which is the plastic used in most food packaging and can linings also has a very similar structure to oestrogen and can play havoc with male fertility. Some vaccination programs have also force sterilization on to unsuspecting populations. General environmental pollution also had its part to play. Where you source your food from is important.

OP have you heard of Verity - it is a PCOS charity here in the UK - here is the link to their forum:-

verity-pcos.org.uk...

I have PCOS and was 'diagnosed' with it about 1 1/2 years back, with the opposite problem of menses that wouldn't stop, not ovulating at the moment either. I am trying to lose weight atm as apparently that does help a lot (a lot of PCOS ladies are overweight because of the way sugars are being used in our bodies - apologies if you are not)

Anyway have a nose on that forum and see if anyone there can help you

Bodyfat is also a big issue. Women who maintain their bodyfat at extremely low levels will not get as many periods, and won't ovulate as often. A woman's body needs a certain amount of bodyfat to maintain natural hormone levels. My ex-wife was an avid runner, and I have dated other athletes that have had this problem.

But, in theory, I agree that Male Fertility rates in the Western World are at all-time lows. This is due to effeminizing pharmaceuticals, and overall change in male/female roles.

With all of that said, I disagree with the 2/3rds statistic, it isn't nearly that high, and mostly it is related to sperm count.

Also, my wife and I just briefly mentioned getting pregnant, didn't even try or agree or discuss it further, we literally mentioned it in the car one day, and she was pregnant a couple of weeks later! Our second baby was exactly the same way! Some men and couples are still entirely fertile, so don't talk to me about getting pregnant, because I can't afford any child support! Apparently it only takes a conversation and my boys are on the job!

Because of the eating disorder I've had, I have a period once or twice a year, if that. Eating healthy and not putting myself into stressful situations helps a bit, but I'll still probably have a hard time getting pregnant if I ever want to, It's sort of just something I've resigned myself to.

this started happening to me before my weight was ever an issue, i remember when i was 16 my doctor kept weighting me to make sure I didnt have an eating disorder of some kind. I wasn't overweight and i wasn't an athlete either. I weighted 124 pounds every time. Today I weight quite a bit more, now weight is an issue, it only makes it less likely that i will ever fixed this problem.
But then in this world, who really knows? anything can happen... i do want to get my weight back down to a healthy range. its a struggle... :<

There are so many reasons why this could be, each person with PCOS could have a different cause. Thanks to ATS i feel like i know what happened to me. the past is not a mystery that needs to solved anymore. The real mystery to me is "how the hell do i do to fix this??" i have tried SO MANY mainstream things... i am now turning to more wonky ideas, as long as i feel it is safe, im gonna give it a shot. Getting a little too used to disappointments here though.

With all of that said, I disagree with the 2/3rds statistic, it isn't nearly that high, and mostly it is related to sperm count.

Also, my wife and I just briefly mentioned getting pregnant, didn't even try or agree or discuss it further, we literally mentioned it in the car one day, and she was pregnant a couple of weeks later! Our second baby was exactly the same way! Some men and couples are still entirely fertile, so don't talk to me about getting pregnant, because I can't afford any child support! Apparently it only takes a conversation and my boys are on the job!

thats so funny! made me smile! Well; the 2/3 is just a statistic i heard from TV, you dont have to believe it, but i do. It was a program about downsyndrom and how much it has increased over the last few years. but you wouldn't know that either because alot of pregnancies are terminated when the parents find out their child has down. I remember talking to a mother of a child i took care of who had down, and she told me the doctors couldn't believe after she found out she was having a child with downsyndrom that she actually wanted to keep it.
un-real eh?

The show then talked about fertility, and how 2/3 of the population struggle to have children, (but still can have them) and 99 % of males with down syndrome are completely infertile, and 75% of the girls are also infertile. It makes you wonder if these are only going to be getting worse. will the population struggle more and more to have kids until the % becomes not of "struggles couples" but of "complete infertility." ?

i work with children, and I found some of the people i worked with never liked to tell people they had trouble conceiving their children, and had to seek out help. this is very common because of the way people talk, for men, they almost brag about their swimmers and when someone struggles, they dont want it to be known; it makes them feel inadequate. Its the same for woman too, i know people who have twins and they would rather not let people know the true reason why that is. People pass it off at the dinner table so casual you wouldnt even know
"so when are you going to have children the both of you? you will make such a great family"
"ohh you know, soon, we are just going to travel a bit first" or "you know we haven't really thought about it (LIE) but we will soon.. thanks for asking"

To me 2/3 is not alot. its not 2/3's of the population is Infertile, its just they struggle. So if you stand in a room of 6 people chances are only 2 of them are as lucky as you are to just say the word and BAM the deed is done. 3 of them will need to work at it for some time with out the help of a doctor before the deed is done. they usually enjoy the years before having a child so it isnt really a big deal, and ONE will need to seek a doctor lose weight, take pills have a pelvic examine check his sperm and finally... after a long wait or just letting it go; BAM the deed is done... its very rare that you find people like me and will never have children.

i talk to alot of people who once struggle. They find im easy to talk with because i dont make them feel inadequate, I mean, I am more inadequate then any of you here!! i am COMPLETELY and totally ok with that. I find it a blessing, so people have less trouble talking with me about it. and I know im not alone.
so when you think about it, 1 person out of 6 seeks a doctor really isnt that much. 2 people dont wait at all and are very lucky and fast, and 3 will wait a bit longer until it was ment to be,. where in the past, with our grandparents, most people were as lucky as you are!

Originally posted by PapillonSkeletons
Because of the eating disorder I've had, I have a period once or twice a year, if that. Eating healthy and not putting myself into stressful situations helps a bit, but I'll still probably have a hard time getting pregnant if I ever want to, It's sort of just something I've resigned myself to.

I have been as low as 6 stone, and still I have painful, heavy periods. And generally much more frequently that the standard 28 days. One of the only times I have been able to put weight on in fact, is when I have taken the combined pill and not taken breaks, thereby not having to waste energy on periods. Low body weight and high levels of hormones makes for crazy times, haha.

Although it is possibly your weight that is effecting your periods, it may simply be that your hormones are not functioning as adequate levels to stimulate ovulation (which in itself can be caused by low body weight). You may find that by working at balancing your hormones it will also help improve your appetite. I swear by Evening Primrose Oil, it completely alleiviates, for me, the extremes of PMS, but it has other regulating benefits. Pennyroyal Tea is also good (as long as there is no chance that you are pregnant). It is worth doing research into what might work for you.

I have PCOS and was 'diagnosed' with it about 1 1/2 years back, with the opposite problem of menses that wouldn't stop, not ovulating at the moment either. I am trying to lose weight atm as apparently that does help a lot (a lot of PCOS ladies are overweight because of the way sugars are being used in our bodies - apologies if you are not)

OMG my sister (of no blood relation what so ever) is like that, she had her last period for over 1 month with no stop, I had no idea this was another form of POCS. her mother has a hard time taking care of her, and never brought her to the doctor, and i was flipping out.. her condition scared me, and it just felt like the poor child was being neglected.

Originally posted by PapillonSkeletons
Because of the eating disorder I've had, I have a period once or twice a year, if that. Eating healthy and not putting myself into stressful situations helps a bit, but I'll still probably have a hard time getting pregnant if I ever want to, It's sort of just something I've resigned myself to.

Eating disorders are essentially anxiety disorders (most often) being processed in a different part of the brain.

May I suggest that you take a very good B-vitamin. I'd suggest AOR, as their's is excellent.

And take an additional B6 in P5P form. You'll get lots of people telling you horror stories about how too much Bs might be ...make your pee yellow or some other nonsense - but people with alcoholic / depressive / anxiety / attention disorders in their families very much appear to have a much greater need for a whole range of B-vitamins. P5P is very available for uptake and use in the brain.

Some people seem to respond well to Inulin also - but I'd be more cautious there as sometimes it has the opposite effect. My one daughter reponds with less anxiety. My son gets more combative. Clearly, the mechanism for uptake is effected in both of them, it is just effected different ways.

Other supplements you can experiment with which effect the same mechanisms are: L-Methionine/S-AME, Phosphatdylserine (good for attention, good for anxiety related to attention), Lipotrophics.

But mainly, please consider that your entire system related to how your body is using b-vitamins is not standard. Standard isn't going to treat the underlying problem.

After. With the anxiety managed, your overall nutrional profile should improve for fertility.

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I am very heavy as well. Vitamin K, and the increased dosage of natural Vitamin A are both helpful in this regard.

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Ok, I've read through your posts and understand you personally are not trying to conceive .

When I was legitimately trying to get pregnant the cause of our problem was a prescription (no not birth control ). A side effect of one of my spouses meds was infertility, only it wasn't listed as a side effect in any manner. The doctor that prescribed the med was going to send us to a fertility specialist because she did not understand why we should have trouble. Well, when she changed the med for other reasons, I was pregnant the following month unexpectedly mind you since we were getting ready to head to the specialists.

So a word of warning to those out there, check your meds, check the messages boards about your meds, and maybe try switching them up if possible.

The only other women I know have had difficulties with conception all had abortions (3 different women). When they were married and decided they wanted children they all had to go to the specialist. Two of them had scar tissue that prevented the sperm from finding the egg, the third I'm unsure of the reasoning.

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I couldn't stand it anymore as I literally couldn't go out during the time I had it as it was so heavy (tmi I know), not good at all, changed my eating habits and have lost a tiny bit of weight since then and it hasn't happened since (touchwood)

I also swear by Evening Primrose Oil which does help