Moon hoax believers: Apollo 13?, page 1

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Topic started on 14-3-2011 @ 01:04 PM by Mike_A

Something I've always wondered about the moon hoax theory, if it was true what was the point of faking Apollo 13? It seems a bit odd that the US would go through all that trouble to show the world how they can muck things up and thereby handing a PR coup to its rivals.

So… why?

reply posted on 14-3-2011 @ 01:14 PM by superman2012

reply to post by Mike_A

Did the US need some american heroes at that time? Maybe they were really trying to get there and something did actually go wrong for real. I can only speculate why this would have been hoaxed, but my best guess is that they tried to get to the moon and after seeing that they couldn't get through the Van Allen radiation belt (maybe trying new tech) they turned around and couldn't just admit that.

reply posted on 14-3-2011 @ 01:18 PM by NerdGoddess

I have heard apollo 11 was fake but never 13. Mind sending me a few links where I could get better informed?

reply posted on 14-3-2011 @ 01:19 PM by letmeDANz

I think they really did get there but found something really profound that they had no choice but to show us a faked moon landing.
I would believe the entire video of the actual landing was too full of "stuff" that they could not possibly "airbrush" them to release something authentic.

So! Kubrick to the rescue, moon landing faked and presented to us on a platter.

Hail the first men on the moon

PS: I am talking about the Apollo 11 landing and not 13..

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reply posted on 14-3-2011 @ 01:28 PM by phishyblankwaters

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but my best guess is that they tried to get to the moon and after seeing that they couldn't get through the Van Allen radiation belt

they got through it just fine.

www.xmission.com...

But don't take that persons word for it, or any NASA scientist. Take Van Allen's word as he stated himself:

"The recent Fox TV show, which I saw, is an ingenious and entertaining assemblage of nonsense. The claim that radiation exposure during the Apollo missions would have been fatal to the astronauts is only one example of such nonsense." -- Dr. James Van Allen

Don't feel bad. I fell for the Van Allen scam myself until I actually did some research, 3 minutes tops to find all the claims busted hard. Sorry.

This isn't to say they went to the moon or didn't, but the whole Van Allen side is closed, they can and did make it through just fine, plenty of data to back this up too if you take a minute to look for it.

reply posted on 14-3-2011 @ 01:31 PM by phishyblankwaters

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I can't provide links to it, but the most plausible explanation for why they would hoax Apollo 13 is in the ratings. Nasa launches for the first few Apollo missions were be all end all TV watched by everyone. once 13 rolled around, no one really gave two craps about it as it was old and boring at this point. So to get the ratings up, and public interest back, they faked a deadly situation in space, getting everyone to stop and watch. Then brought them safely back to earth with nothing but American ingenuity.

i don't buy it myself, they went to the moon, Apollo 13 was hit by a micrometor and suffered damages as we have been told, it's a miracle they made it back because even just 1 astronaut lost in space would be enough to end the entire program.

reply posted on 14-3-2011 @ 01:34 PM by TrowaBarton

I think that if they were faked it was either to show superiority over the Rusians space program which was sending unmanned shuttles to the moon since the mid 50's (maybe later) and/or to Distract from the ever unpopular war that we all know as Vietnam.

I find it strange also that We decided to cancel the last three moon missions slated for '72 and after ( Do not remember the dates exactly). When in '72 the Russians finally had capability to track Crafts into deep space.

Just my two cents and nothing to unfamiliar.

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reply posted on 14-3-2011 @ 02:47 PM by Mike_A

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The theory I've heard most is that no human has ever been to the moon, not just Apollo 11. I don't have any links for you; it's just what I've read on here.

It just seems to me to be utterly pointless if not counterproductive to fake a failure and I've never seen the conspiracy theorists deal with this.

reply posted on 14-3-2011 @ 04:04 PM by Xcathdra

To be honest, hoax or no hoax, it was needed at the time. There will always come a time when a nation must reinvigorate the population, to get their creative jucies flowing again.

We needed something to beleive in that would capture our imaginations. The Space program did that, and still does to this day.

Why?

Because it's next. Because we came out of the cave, and we looked over the hill and we saw fire; and we crossed the ocean and we pioneered the west, and we took to the sky. The history of man is on a timeline of explorations and this is What's next.

reply posted on 14-3-2011 @ 04:51 PM by superman2012

Originally posted by phishyblankwaters
reply to post by superman2012

but my best guess is that they tried to get to the moon and after seeing that they couldn't get through the Van Allen radiation belt

they got through it just fine.

www.xmission.com...

But don't take that persons word for it, or any NASA scientist. Take Van Allen's word as he stated himself:

"The recent Fox TV show, which I saw, is an ingenious and entertaining assemblage of nonsense. The claim that radiation exposure during the Apollo missions would have been fatal to the astronauts is only one example of such nonsense." -- Dr. James Van Allen

Don't feel bad. I fell for the Van Allen scam myself until I actually did some research, 3 minutes tops to find all the claims busted hard. Sorry.

This isn't to say they went to the moon or didn't, but the whole Van Allen side is closed, they can and did make it through just fine, plenty of data to back this up too if you take a minute to look for it.

I understand that they experimented with the Southern Atlantic Magnetic Anomaly, but, does this span for approx. 50,000 km? Didn't think so. The point I was trying to make was, is it possible that they could have been exposed to that amount of radiation for so long and then lead a long healthy life? Also, how thick was their shielding?

Also, Leonid Elenin discovered a comet, it does not make him an expert on that comet. I am sure he doesn't know its composition, weight, etc.

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reply posted on 14-3-2011 @ 05:47 PM by spicypickle

In my opinion, they didn't fake the moon landings. But they might have faked the movies of them. I've always thought that it's possible that the lighting and conditions of the lunar environment were too extreme for the cameras they had at the time so they faked the movies on earth.

reply posted on 15-3-2011 @ 11:53 AM by Mike_A

Surely I can't be the first person to have thought about this? There must be some moon hoaxers out there that have been asked this before, it seems such an obviouf flaw in the theory.

By the way, just to clarify, I'm not asking if or suggesting that the moon landings were hoaxed, I'm 99.99% sure they weren't.

reply posted on 15-3-2011 @ 01:27 PM by Dragoon01

reply to post by Mike_A

I just spent the weekend in Huntsville at the Space and Rocket center. If you can stand next to any of those machines and not be in awe and accepting of the obvious logic that they did INDEED do what we all know they did then you have to be dense.
Great question OP send the hucksters packing.

reply posted on 31-1-2012 @ 07:03 PM by mw