Will America's Nuclear Power Plants Fail in an 8.0 Earthquake?

AWESOME

S+F

BUMP as Washington/new york quake just now.

ELF

Well guess what people, 2 US nuclear power plants were taken offline.

Reported on fox news.

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HIya Vitchillo hope all is well,

Do you know which ones cant find it?

Kind Regards,

Elf

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North Anna Nuclear Power Plant... is on backup generators. No damage reported. Standard procedure.

It's two reactors at the nuclear power plant... so only one plant, but two reactors.

Originally posted by zorgon

Originally posted by thorfourwinds

Meanwhile, back to the Fukushima World-Killer Nuke Meltdowns and the [color=limegreen]continuing radiation poising of our land, food and children - 24/7/365.

zorgon, what is your take on this?

Well, I spent three weeks following that Fukushima story doggedly... then in the end I found out three things...

1) Except for a handful of people and those that live in the area.. NO ONE CARES...

2) We are still here... 1000's of nuke tests (especially near my home town) medical radiation, space radiation, CME's, cell tower radiation, microwave radiation... etc etc.. and we are STILL HERE.. and world population is increasing exponentially

3) Radiation is good for you

Greetings:

Thank you for your insightful and timely response.

1) We have been attempting to sound the alarm in the many nuke-related threads in our signature, and have come to the same conclusion: NO ONE CARES...

However, having spent the last six weeks on the road in the Hurricane Irene-ravaged areas of North Carolina, we were amazed - no, dumfounded - that NOT ONE PERSON we spoke with (including fellow First Responder Volunteer Firepersons) had any clue about Fukushima 24/7/365.

The Captain of the local department said that "there is no problem, or the USGOV/EPA would alert us, and it would be on television, right? (!???!)

Revised Conclusion: The people have been denied the basic information to make informed decisions as to how best "handle" the radiation poisoning nightmare.

2) Never thought that you would not be (there) "here" - after all, who would want to leave that pool? And whatever happens in "here" (there) stays in "here," (there), right mate?

3) You and Ann Coulter make such a great pair...

Glad to be back.

As we have been attempting to bring to light for over six months (!), there exists a world-wide conspiracy in the MSM to deprive the public of the facts regarding the dire consequences of the melt-throughs of the nuclear reactors at Fukushima-Daiichi.

Please listen up, people.

Your life and the lives of your loved ones may very well depend on your access to and use thereof of potentially life-saving information being kept from you by the EPA/USGOV.

The total number of days between Friday, March 11th, 2011 and Tuesday, October 11th, 2011 is 214 days.

The radiation poisoning of our people, food and land has continued unabated - 24/7/365 - for exactly 7 months.

For your edification and enjoyment (bewilderment), a few 'notable' stories that seemed to miss mass circulation and perhaps a peek at what might have been missed on the 6:00 o'clock news...:

Three days into the disaster, this FOR EYES ONLY memo circulated at the NRC.

14 March 2011
NRC ONLY Update – All 3 Reactor Cores Likely Damaged

15 March 2011
Fukushima Daiichi Units Degrading – Zirconium Fire at Reactor 4 SFP – Reactor 2 Possible Reactor Vessel Breach & Ex-Vessel Core Reaction

My goodness gracious! And we thought they (TEPCO/JAPGOV) said they had this "stabilized..." and presumably under control...

At least, that is what they (and the EPA/USGOV) would have you believe.

Fast-forward about six months to more headlines you may have missed in your local media:

21 August 2011
Fukushima Officials Worry New Discovery of Radioactive Beef Will Harm Reputation More After Farmer Confirms Cattle Not Fed Contaminated Rice Straw

21 August 2011
4,000 Potentially Radioactive Cows Without Radioactive Rice Hay May Have Been Shipped from One Farm in Namie-Machi, Fukushima

29 August 2011
Why the Fukushima Disaster Is Worse Than Chernobyl

31 August 2011
France Releases Map of Cesium-137 Deposition Across the Pacific – Shows the US More Contaminated Than Western Japan



[color=limegreen]Will this insanity ever end?

tfw

Greetings:

Regarding our friends at the EPA and the on-going cover-up; from the wayback machine:

28 March 2011
EPA Monitoring Continues to Confirm That No Radiation Levels of Concern Have Reached the United States

28 March 2011
EPA: Expect More Radiation in Rainwater

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Iodine-131 found in rain in Pennsylvania.

[color=limegreen]The Environmental Protection Agency yesterday reported finding elevated levels of iodine-131, a product of nuclear fission, in rainwater in Pennsylvania and Massachusetts. The levels exceed the maximum contaminant level (MCL) permitted in drinking water, but EPA continues to assure the public there is no need for alarm:
(..)

28 March 2011
Radioactive Iodine-131 in Pennsylvania rainwater sample is 3300% above federal drinking water standard

Governor Corbett Says Public Water Supply Testing Finds No Risk to Public From Radioactivity Found in Rainwater

(...)

'Rainwater is not typically directly consumed,' Corbett said. 'However, people might get alarmed by making what would be an inappropriate connection from rainwater to drinking water.

By testing the drinking water, we can assure people that the water is safe.' …

5 April 2011
Cumulative Low-Level Doses of Radiation Can Cause Big Problems


Japan nuclear radiation has spread around the globe.

When scientists speak of radiation, they speak not only of single doses but also of cumulative doses. [color=limegreen]Japan nuclear radiation has spread around the globe leaving long-lasting cumulative low-level doses of radiation.

See for example, this research from the University of Iowa showing that 'cumulative radon exposure is a significant risk factor for lung cancer in women'.

And see these studies on the health effects cumulative doses of radioactive cesium. (As I noted on March 29th, [color=limegreen]the radioactive cesium fallout from Japan already rivals Chernobyl.

And the amount of radioactive fuel at Fukushima dwarfs Chernobyl).

Admittedly, the damage from huge single doses may be greater than the same cumulative dose from many small exposures. But the smaller doses can still add up.

Many studies have shown that repeated exposures to low levels of ionizing radiation from CT scans and x-rays can cause cancer. See this, this, this, this, this, this, this, this and this.

Remember, the radiation from CT scans and x-rays are external emitters – the radiation emanates from outside the body.

In contrast, internal emitters keep emitting their radiation inside the body.

Therefore, the cumulative effect of multiple small doses of radiation from internal emitters could be even more dramatic, depending on the half life, metabolic pathways and other properties of the particular radioactive particle.

“Karl Morgan, who worked on the Manhattan project, later came out against the nuclear industry when he understood the danger of low levels of ionizing radiation-and he said there is no safe dose of radiation exposure,” Cabasso continued, “That means all this talk about what a worker or the public can withstand on a yearly basis is bogus. There is no safe level of radiation exposure. These so-called safe levels are coming from within the nuclear establishment.[/co”

Read more…
6 April 2011
T rue Horrors Of Japan Nuclear Disaster Revealed In Confidential Leaked Government Document

A leaked confidential NRC document on the Japan nuclear disaster reveals the situation in Fukushima is worse than anyone expected.

Top scientists in the United States and Japan have discovered a “wide array” of “complex problems” warning that [color=limegreen]the Japan nuclear disaster could continue on indefinitely and things could start to get much, much worse at any minute.
(...)

To be continued...

In Peace, Love & Light

tfw

Greetings:

Just catching up on the news...

... and the wayback machine:

31 March 2011
Radioactive Iodine-131 in rainwater sample near San Francisco was 18,100% above federal drinking water standard

Iodine-131 was measured in a rainwater sample taken on the roof of Etcheverry Hall on UC Berkeley campus, March 23, 2011 from 9:06-18:00 PDT. The 3 Liters of rainwater collected contained 134 Becquerels of Iodine for an average of 20.1 Becquerel per liter, which equates to 543 Picocuries per liter.

The federal drinking water limit for Iodine-131 is 3 Picocuries per liter, putting the rainwater sample at 18,100% above the federal drinking water limit.

20.1 Becquerel per liter (Bq/L) = 543 Picocuries per liter (pCi/L)

Conversion calculator here.

The federal drinking water standard for Iodine-131 is 3 pCi/L. source

6 April 2011
True Horrors of Japan Nuclear Disaster Revealed In Confidential Leaked Government Document

(...)
[color=limegreen]]Perhaps the worse news is confirmation that radioactive fragments and particles, including the deadly Plutonium “MOX” fuel, has been shot high into the atmosphere during the hydrogen explosions.
more

3 July 2011
Guardian: Leaked Emails Reveal Government Conspiracy To Downplay Fukushima Nuclear Disaster

Photograph: AP

8 August 2011
Japan Witheld Nuclear Meltdown Simulation Showing 18,000 Deaths And 55 Mile Dead Zone

31 August 2011
Feds Allowing Tritium Radiation Catastrophe Cover Up At
North Anna, VA Nuclear Plant?

There may be a tritium radiation leak at the North Anna nuclear plant following the Virginia Earthquake.

4 April 2011
Cesium-137 Threat Grows While MSM Remains Silent

Cesium-137 has been detected in drinking water and milk here in the United States.

Cesium and Tellurium were found in Boise, Las Vegas, Nome and Dutch Harbor, Honolulu, Kauai and Oahu, Anaheim, Riverside, San Francisco, and San Bernardino,  Jacksonville and Orlando, Salt Lake City,  Guam, and Saipan while Uranium-234, with a half-life of 245,500 years has been found in Hawaii, California, and Washington.

The EPA has radiation monitoring sites situated around the country.
(...)

Radioactive isotopes spread through the atmosphere accumulate in milk after they fall to earth in rain or dust and settle on vegetation, where they are ingested by grazing cattle.

Iodine-131 is known to accumulate in the thyroid gland, where it can cause cancer and other thyroid diseases. Cesium-137 accumulates in the body’s soft tissues and bone marrow where it increases risk of cancer.

The corporate media in the West is downplaying and basically ignoring the threat. On the one hand, the EPA tells us cesium-137 is appearing in milk and water around the country, while on the other telling us not to worry.

The EPA said in March that "while they were above the historical and background norm, the levels weren’t considered harmful to human health."

The agency sounds the alarm about radioactivity in cigarette smoke while minimizing the risk from an out of control nuclear plant that continues to spew radioactivity.

Something is seriously amiss when a supposedly free media and government agencies in the U.S. downplay the threat.

In Peace, Love & Light

tfw

Originally posted by this_is_who_we_are

Originally posted by thorfourwinds
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What do you think the best way would be to inform more people of the Fukushima Dai-ichi warheads/MOX/weapons productions facility that remains, to this day, continually spewing life-altering radiation 24/7/365... [color=limegreen]with no end in sight?

The first thing that popped into my mind when I read this was:
"I don't know... I wish I had an answer."

The second thing that popped into my mind was:
"Occupy Wall Street".

I envisioned the protesters with Fukushima signs. How would one steer the protesters towards rallying behind this cause along with their primary concerns. This would require someone to disseminate the information contained in your exhaustive and informative threads within the OWS movement. In my world, I see signs and banners proclaiming the ongoing (and under/un-reported) disaster flying high at every protest. But that's just me.

Greetings:

Great idea!

"Out of the mouths of babes..." or something to that effect.

S & F!

We would be willing to bet that there are ATS members & lurkers who have those direct contacts into the movement in many cities worldwide.

The real question is:

What will it take to empower and motivate people to literally

SAVE THE WORLD ?

Please look at this, people!

Japanese Journalist: “It’s like killing our own children, I cannot allow it to happen” — [color=limegreen]Teachers forcing students to eat food that parents fear is contaminated with radiation (VIDEO)

It is now time to come out of the (comparatively safe) woodwork and nether reaches of the world and unite, in this, arguably, the single biggest threat to all life on the planet we have ever faced.

It is now time to make this issue the much-needed (and missing) focal point of that pent-up anger of the OWS movement.

It is now time to voice our dissatisfaction with the inept and still-without-a-viable-solution response to the largest industrial accident in the history of mankind.

This is not a drill.

The balloon has dropped, and those supposedly bestowed with the responsibility of keeping we, the people, safe from life-altering nuclear radiation from the multiple melt-throughs at the disasterous Fukushima Dai-ichi fiasco have obviously dropped the ball - or, more to the point - just don’t give a damn about life on this planet.

We, the people, must pick up the ball and run with it, or suffer watching our loved ones slowly wilting away from the degrading effects of radiation poisoning - much like the food in the fields and the trees in the forest - or die trying.

Remember first, we, the people, are individuals.

This is what the radiated rain did to our trees here in the North Georgia mountains. This rain has blanketed all of North America at times since 15 March 2011, fueled by the 24/7/365 release of the deadly radiation.



If the "gentle" rain burns holes in the leaves of the trees, what else is happening to the rest of the ecosystem?

High concentrations of radioactive cesium have been found in plankton

We look forward to the collective mind of these individuals to formulate a plan to address the many aspects of this plan, the sooner, the better.

We look forward to further communication with like-minded individuals as to the implementation of "the Plan."

BTW, we are not alone.

Sadly this site exists due to a nuclear cover up that has been ongoing since the nuclear crisis in Japan starting March 11th 2011.

(...)The way to beat the nuclear industry and their spin is to always stay united.

I know people will have some disagreements but ultimately [color=orane]if we want to save some lives its a team effort.

It might sound dramatic to talk about saving lives but make no mistake thats what all the people who make the Youtube videos, websites and selected journalists are trying to do.

[color=orane]One sick kid is one sick kid too many.
AustralianCannonball

Peace Love Light
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Liberty & Equality

or

Revolution

Originally posted by ColAngus
What are your ideas? What is [your] plan?

I read what you posted, and no need to get snippy with the "what part of this did you not understand" comment.

YOU are making a big stink about this, and rightfully so I concede, but are you just keeping the Batsignal lit for someone to swoop in and figure it all out for you, or do you have any concrete ideas to offer?

Greetings:

Our most sincere apologies if you took what we wrote as snippy... we are here merely attempting to share vital information that we think may save lives - not here to play silly word games and try to derail the thread with inane, tired old COINTELPRO tactics from the '60's.

BTW, it didn't work then, either.

If you have an idea as to how help in this life-saving effort - let's hear it - as we have asked for reader feedback, so as to develop a collective response plan and put said plan into action.

YOU are making a big stink about this...

Guilty as charged... and have been since 3/11.

[color=orane]We are sick and tired of the blatant attempts of the MSM (and others) to misrepresent reality in order to deliberately distort viewer and listener perceptions.

The truth must be told and we are merely sharing what is out there... but that is not enough, is it, if we catch your drift?

You, ColAngus, are perhaps absolutely right.

...or do you have any concrete ideas to offer?

Thank you for noticing and we really do appreciate you taking the time to address the situation - albeit in a somewhat convoluted way - IMHO.

...and rightfully so I concede...

This statement is the reason you have our attention, even though you started out appearing somewhat as a troll, IMHO, just here to waste bandwidth and divert attention from the true issue - life through informed action or death by radiation apathy.

You have succeeded in changing our mind about your trollness and your remarks (when analyzed without blinders) actually galvanized us to put up or shut up... and we are now working on the appropriate response.

...are you just keeping the Batsignal lit for someone to swoop in and figure it all out for you...

Thank you for noticing that the Batsignal is lit, and has been since 3/11.

Most people seem to not notice - or not care...

Originally posted by thorfourwinds
Greetings:

Meanwhile, back to the Fukushima World-Killer Nuke Meltdowns and the [color=limegreen]continuing radiation poising of our land, food and children - 24/7/365.

zorgon, what is your take on this?

Well, I spent three weeks following that Fukushima story doggedly... then in the end I found out three things...

1) Except for a handful of people and those that live in the area... NO ONE CARES...

2) We are still here... 1000's of nuke tests (especially near my home town) medical radiation, space radiation, CME's, cell tower radiation, microwave radiation... etc etc.. and we are STILL HERE.. and world population is increasing exponentially

3) Radiation is good for you

Greetings:

Thank you for your insightful and timely response.

1) We have been attempting to sound the alarm in the many nuke-related threads in our signature, and have come to the same conclusion: NO ONE CARES...

However, having spent the last six weeks on the road in the Hurricane Irene-ravaged areas of North Carolina, we were amazed - no, dumfounded - that [color=limegreen]NOT ONE PERSON we spoke with (including fellow First Responder Volunteer Firepersons) had any clue about Fukushima 24/7/365.

The Captain of the local VFD said that ‘... there is no problem, or the USGOV/EPA would alert us, and it would be on television, right? (!???!)

Revised Conclusion:
[color=orane]We, the people have been denied the basic information to make informed decisions as to how best "handle" the radiation poisoning nightmare.
...
As we have been attempting to bring to light for over six months (!), there exists a world-wide conspiracy in the MSM to deprive the general populace of the facts regarding the radioactive life-altering consequences of the multiple melt-throughs of the nuclear reactors at Fukushima-Daiichi.

Please listen up, people.

Your life and the lives of your loved ones may very well depend on your access to and use thereof of potentially life-saving information being kept from you by the MSM/EPA/NOAA/DHS/CDC/FDA/NRC and, of course, TEPCO/JAPGOV/USGOV and many others.
(...)

To be continued...

Peace Love Light
tfw

Liberty & Equality or Revolution

France: 20 times more cesium was released from Fukushima into sea than TEPCO claims

Oct. 28 — “On October 27, the Institute for Radiological Protection and Nuclear Safety (IRSN, Institut de Radioprotection et de Surete Nucleaire) of France announced its research report in which the researchers estimated the total amount of radioactive cesium-137 leaked from Fukushima I Nuclear Power Plant into the ocean was 27,100 terrabecquerels from March 21 to mid July. The IRSN estimate is 20 times as much as the estimate announced in June by TEPCO,” According to

enenews.com...

Scientists from Norway, Austria, Spain and the United States have found "strong evidence" that the Great East Japan earthquake of the unprecedented magnitude of 9 caused "structural damage" to the Fukushima Daiichi nuclear power plant, emitting radioactive Xenon gas, before the tsunami tidal wave brought a train of havoc.

www.indepthnews.info...



Emergency press conference reveals 110 microsieverts per hour at Tokyo supermarket

TOKYO, Oct. 28 — Breaking news from Mochizuki, “110 micro Sv/h in Setagaya.”

“In Setagaya, Tokyo, ward mayor held an emergency press conference at 10PM,” says the report. They announced the 110 micro Sv/h near ‘Powerlarks Setagaya’ supermarket. “If an average citizen measured it, it might be way higher,” notes Mochizuki.

enenews.com...

“Already on 15 March, a first isolated 133Xe cloud reached western North America, followed by the arrival of high concentrations of both 133Xe and 137Cs on 19 March.” “The main part of the radioactive plume entered western North America on 17–18 March. On 18 March at 12:00UTC, the head of the plume had already arrived over the North Atlantic, but the main part was located over the eastern Pacific Ocean and western North America, where it could be detected at monitoring sites. This part of the plume was also rich in 137Cs, as it was still close to the surface south of 50 [Most of US/Canada border is 49°]. At the same time, the plume penetrated the subtropics and arrived at Hawaii on 19 March.” “A map of the simulated surface concentrations of 133Xe for 22 March shows that all of western North America was engulfed by the FD-NPP plume, as well as parts of eastern North America and eastern Asia.”

enenews.com...

Jet stream archive here ..

squall.sfsu.edu...


Radiation Impacts on Oceans and Fisheries

www.dailykos.com...

The effects of atomic radiation on oceanography and fisheries

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That is one amazing OP...I am bookmarking it for later because I don't have time to even begin to get into the meat of it. Not to make light of all the info, but in answer to the thread title:


YES

Greetings:

RADIATION WATCH AMERICA 2011

The total number of days between Friday, March 11th, 2011 and Saturday, October 29th, 2011 is 232 days.

[color=Limegreen]The radiation poisoning of our people, food and land has continued unabated - 24/7/365[color=limegreen]
- for 7 months, 18 days.

• 20,044,800 seconds
• 334,080 minutes
• 5,568 hours
• 33 + weeks

Now, let’s see. Just what were those becquerels-per-hour releases that TEPCO admitted to from the Fukushima disaster/fiasco multiple melt-throughs?

Oh yeah, like that information is going to do us a lot of good.

How about, “How do we shut the damn things off?”

Toss-Up Question:
Will this weekend’s record-breaking “historic” snowstorm “wash” radiation from the air similar to the way rain does (and did in March?

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Iodine-131 found in rain in Pennsylvania.

[color=limegreen]The Environmental Protection Agency yesterday reported finding elevated levels of iodine-131, a product of nuclear fission, in rainwater in Pennsylvania and Massachusetts. The levels exceed the maximum contaminant level (MCL) permitted in drinking water, but EPA continues to assure the public there is no need for alarm:
(..)

28 March 2011
Radioactive Iodine-131 in Pennsylvania rainwater sample is 3300% above federal drinking water standard

Governor Corbett Says Public Water Supply Testing Finds No Risk to Public From Radioactivity Found in Rainwater

(...)

'Rainwater is not typically directly consumed,' Corbett said. 'However, people might get alarmed by making what would be an inappropriate connection from rainwater to drinking water.

By testing the drinking water, we can assure people that the water is safe.' …

28 March 2011
EPA: Expect More Radiation in Rainwater

5 April 2011
Cumulative Low-Level Doses of Radiation Can Cause Big Problems

This could be a very interesting question to be answered for you folks near Harrisburg, PA.

Anyone out there in PA with a radiation detector who wants to share their readings from this event?

Here is one of the many avenues being undertaken at this moment by our friend in New Zealand, GhostR1der

When Oppenheimer saw the first nuclear explosion, he understood the magnitude of this new and awful kind of energy.

Now, the raw power of nature meets our technical arrogance and is destroying Japan in the form of earthquakes, tsunami and the unleashing of terrifying quantities of radiation.

It hardly bears thinking about.

But we must think about it and act upon it.

Perhaps we can borrow from some some of these ideas from the International Physicians For the Prevention of Nuclear War.

Nuclear energy is not good or bad, in my view.

What I condemn is the human arrogance and ignorance that leads us to think that we can control a force as massive and potentially destructive as this, or that the risks inherent in harnessing it as a source of electricity are calculable.

Chernobyl showed us how humans make mistakes.

Fukushima has made it abundantly clear that we are not in control, and that we are pitiful in the face of nature’s ability to determine our fate.

The disaster that hit Japan was bad enough, but did we need to compound it by adding our own stupidity to the equation by building nuclear reactors on fault lines?
Xanthe Hall
International Physicians For the Prevention of Nuclear War

Perhaps this really is not about reinventing the wheel, but merely providing a frame and axle to harness the inertia that already exists ...

This is how these concerned doctors did it in Germany... a lesson to be learned here?

Meanwhile the other doctors were ready to take to the streets.

Equipped with banners, balloons, and “nuclear“ umbrellas, we organised a flashmob in the centre of Frankfurt. ...

To be continued...

[color=limegreen]Will this insanity ever end?

Peace Love Light
tfw

Liberty & Equality or Revolution

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Greetings:

Hey there, Westcoast and other fine members out West/California, we have a question that needs an answer:

Has the [color=limegreen]never-ending life-altering radiation spewing 24/7/365 from the Fukushima disaster/fiasco/nightmare affected/tainted this year’s wine production?

Or were all the wine-producing grapes kept out of the radioactive rain?

We propose that the larger question looms on the horizon: does Cesium 137, Iodine-133 and Xenon-133 affect the intrinsic, unique flavors and leave that metallic taste in your mouth?

Just a reminder as to why we ask these questions... please notice that the fruit and wine-producing regions of California are specifically mentioned in the following graphic.


Perhaps your local Chamber of Commerce can get some free air time on CNN like this:

27 October 2011
CNN: ‘Why tourism in Fukushima makes more sense then ever’
— Reporter given all-expenses-paid trip to Japan
— “Life in much of Fukushima goes on as normal now”

Far from any scenes of devastation, Setogaro Gorge will reward hikers with unrivaled scenes of natural beauty and plenty of picturesque waterfalls.

(...)The northern limits are on the cusp of the government-mandated 30-kilometer evacuation zone around the [color=limegreen]beleaguered Fukushima nuclear reactors.

Virtually everything due north of Iwaki, all the way up to the city of Sendai, has been evacuated, abandoned or destroyed.

Pack up the kids and the dogs, Ma, sounds like a place to vacation on the cheap!

Life in this region of Japan will never be the same. The rice paddies, usually impeccably maintained, grow wild; a clear indication of abandonment and a sad reminder of a terrible day.

The entire Fukushima region of Japan runs the risk of forever bearing a nuclear stigma.

What follows has earned itself a place in the Quotable Hall of Wonderment:

But it is important to understand that although a nuclear disaster has stricken Fukushima and the immediate area around the blown-out reactors is off limits, the land is by no means some apocalyptic scene of nuclear winter.

[color=limegreen]]The people living there are not glowing a radioactive hue.

Prove it.

Fukushima remains one of the most beautiful and scenic prefectures in Japan, filled with good, honest, real people who continue to thrive on in the aftermath of an unprecedented disaster.

...people who continue to thrive on...

We sincerely question that statement.

Over 50% of seafood tested in eastern Japan contain radioactive cesium-134 and cesium-137.

Consumers have generally avoided products from the regions near the wrecked Fukushima Daiichi nuclear plant
(AFP/File, Richard A. Brooks)

As Japan insists it is safe for travelers (outside the nuclear evacuation zone, of course) and is enticing people to come and see what its like for themselves, Iwaki is poised to become the next hot destination for people wanting to witness post-March 11 Japan at the doorstep of ground zero.

Right..., but wait, there’s more.

For the more intrepid travelers, a visit to a city on the outskirts of the tsunami-ravaged nuclear no-man's land might be one of the most evocative and educational things to do while touring Japan.

We need these type of wordsmiths on our side...and the weight of the government behind us - oh, wait! The government is part of the problem!


Meanwhile, back at the ranch, the beat goes on:

People have accepted what they feel they cannot change.
DancedWithWolves

This attitude is not acceptable, as apathy will assure the end of all life on our planet.

For your consideration;

Biological concentration is coming up to human

Living in the land of death

Peace Love Light
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Liberty & Equality or Revolution

Originally posted by zworld
...
I dont understand how Tepco didnt see the humidity problem coming from enclosing the building.
You put the lid on the teakettle and it starts to whistle.
Basic sh!t Tepco.

Greetings:

Silly rabbit.


We have previously been informed that the "radioactive release problem" has been solved with the new, improved, must-be-magic tent that TEPCO erected for the benefit of mankind - or, actually, perhaps just the near environs to the Fukushima disaster/fiasco multiple melt-throughs spewing life-altering radioactive contaminates 24/7/365 [color=limegreen]for over 7 months.



Or this gem supplied by TEPCO:


Eye-washing: A crane lifts a panel into place Thursday at the remnants of the No. 1 reactor building at the Fukushima No. 1 power plant. TEPCO is putting a giant cover over the building - one of two ripped apart by violent explosions early in the crisis -
[color=limegreen]to contain its radioactive emissions...

Oh, wait, Wally! TEPCO is putting up a curtain to solve the problem - out of sight, out of mind.

Building Fukushima Reactor #1 Cover
... which takes you to the "House of Japan" website where you get this:

"The cover is being installed to prevent further radioactive pollution escaping from the crippled plant."

Workers at the plant are still trying to bring the critical situation under control by January 2012.
Decontaminated water is being used to cool the reactors ahead of efforts to achieve a cold shutdown.

How is this feat possible as the decontamination equipment’s capacity (when it is operating at all) is far less that the admitted amounts of water being injected/poured onto, into, the reactor(s)?

Meanwhile, Tepco is constructing a massive steel frame to support a shroud of polyester fiber that will cover the unit 1 reactor, where a hydrogen blast severely damaged the walls and roof, to reduce the entry of rainwater.

[color=limegreen]It may also help mitigate radiation leaks.
source

From the looks of the steel components, it should support this magic stuff.

This is part of the steel frame that will support a polyester fiber shroud for the unit 1 reactor at the Fukushima Daiichi nuclear plant.
(Credit: Tepco)


Handout photo shows a cover under construction around the No. 1 reactor of the Fukushima Daiichi Nuclear Power Station in Fukushima Prefecture on Sept. 15, 2011.

The cover is being installed to prevent further radioactive pollution escaping from the crippled plant.

Must be some kind of new miracle stuff that we are not familiar with. Is that like Teflon?
And if this miracle fabric actually blocks/prevents radioactive contaminates, we would like to have just a bit to make bumbershoots for the children so as to protect them from the 24/7/365 lethal bombardment they are currently subjected to.

... Once the scrubbers are in place, they are expected to process all the air in the enclosure -- a volume of about 40,000 cubic meters -- every hour, reducing airborne radioactive materials by 90 percent.

Let’s see ... 90% of ... what was the latest number bandied about ... a million billion becquerels ...?

Does the back-up system go online when the filters need replaced? So many questions...

... reducing airborne radioactive materials by 90 percent.

Can this be verified?

The new cover will last for two years. TEPCO is also considering replacing the cover with a stronger one should the firm decide to remove the fuel from the reactor.

TEPCO plans to build similar covers over the No. 3 and 4 reactor buildings, which were also destroyed by hydrogen explosions in March.
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So they’re still putting out ‘hydrogen explosion’ for this?



Somehow, we were under the impression that the fuel from reactor #1 was estimated (by TEPCO) to be about 18 meters below containment, which we thought was below the reactor pressure vessel.

Would love to hear more about and actually see the technology for recovering this fuel.

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Originally posted by Blackmarketeer
Some additional stats if you want to compare US, EU and Japanese Nuke plants:

Most EU plants conform to ISO3XXX and bury their reactor cores to about 250M (minimum) depth.

In the US they're buried to about 200 - 400M, with the older ones less than that.

In Japan the minimum is 500M, and heavily reinforced.

The Fukushima core was 800M beneath the surface.

Greetings:

How did we miss this blatant bravo sierra?

ISO3XXX

The Fukushima core was 800M beneath the surface.

Do you just make this stuff up?

Which "Fukushima core" - 1, 2, or 3?

Bet you can't back ANY of this BS up with things like sources, links - after all, this is ATS.

Looking forward to your further communication and clarification.

Click on any graphic and come see us and participate, please.

Thank you for your time and consideration.

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Originally posted by thorfourwinds
Do you just make this stuff up?

If he did, sounds like a perfect sparring partner for you seeing as "bravo sierra" is the currency of your posts as well.

Greetings:

We have been sounding the alarm since [color=Chartreuse]3/11, and a good part of what has been posted heretofore has identified specific states in the US, and in general, spoke of a radiated
North America.

So, what’s up in Canada ?

19 March 2011
Cesium-137 plume forecast for North America and Europe up to March 24: France’s IRSN (VIDEO)


Any questions?

(...)The expected concentrations of cesium 137 in the air over the territory swept by the plume are extremely low.

This radionuclide is representative of radioactive material released long-distance during a nuclear accident.

Right. Based on what previous empirical data?

(...)
IRSN agreed with the Environment Protection Agency of the United States (EPA), which suggests that these concentrations will not affect health and the environment.

In addition, they will be so small that they may probably be detected in the environment than by sample measurements performed in specialized laboratories.(...)

So, we now have IRSN in collusion with the EPA, USGOV, TEPCO, JAPGOV, NOAA, NRC and the MSM to withhold vital, potentially life-saving information from we, the people - only one week into this disaster/fiasco.

19 March 2011
Fukushima nuclear plume 'covered most of North America'

The plume from Fukushima has now reached the western Atlantic but its radioactivity is likely to be “extremely low” and have [color=orane]no impact on health or the environment, France’s Institute for Radiological Protection and Nuclear Safety (IRSN) said on Saturday.

[color=8AFB17]'As of yesterday, the cloud covered most of North America and northeastern Siberia.

'It is currently passing over the North Atlantic,' it said, naming French terroritories in the Caribbean and off Canada’s eastern coast.

The cloud has been progressively thinning as it heads eastwards around the northern hemisphere at high altitude and will reach mainland Europe on Wednesday or Thursday, it said, citing a computer model jointly compiled with the French weather service, Meteo France. (…)
(...)

This is a video showing the current wind directions around the Fukushima nuclear disaster site with a wind and radioactive plume forecast in the second half of the video.

1 April 2011
Fukushima Forecast: Radioactive particles to be concentrated over Midwestern US on April 1, 2 (VIDEO)

And now, for something completely different - NUKESPEAK ...

* Although xenon is not toxic, its compounds are highly toxic -- CRC handbook of chemistry

4 April 2011
Canada suspends mobile radiation measurements around Vancouver, BC “until further notice” as radioactive cloud looms (VIDEO)

Health Canada, March 31, 2011:
• Mobile Survey of Saanich Peninsula March 22, 2011 0.37 [microseiverts/day]
• Mobile Survey of Victoria March 22, 2011 0.48 …

• Mobile Survey around Vancouver March 24, 2011 0.67 …
• Mobile Survey around Haida Gwaii March 24, 2011 0.73
• Mobile Survey around Vancouver March 25, 2011 0.72

Please note that there was no new data collected by NRCan on March 23, 2011, and that until further notice mobile surveys are suspended.

This is where it just boggles the mind that people are not in the streets and occupying the Health Canada offices.

Probably the same reason that it is not happening here in the U.S. - lack of critical information enabling the reader/activist to make informed decisions leading to awareness leading to empowerment leading to action.

To be continued ...

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Greetings:

This is where it just boggles the mind that people are not in the streets and occupying the Health Canada offices.

Probably the same reason that it is not happening here in the U.S. - lack of critical information enabling the reader to make informed decisions leading to awareness leading to empowerment leading to action.

Another example of blatant tomfoolery - this is what one get when one clicks on:
Nuclear Emergency Response


Same bravo sierra that the EPA presents on their website... obfuscation personified.

8 April 2011
Vancouver, Canada radiation tests show iodine-131 in rainwater at almost
100 times above US drinking water limit

… The jet stream is carrying the radiation from Japan to North America.

Most of the radioactivity disperses in the atmosphere and falls over the Pacific Ocean on its way over, but some of it has now reached the West Coast, falling down with rain, and mixing with seawater. It’s also accumulating in seaweed.
(...)

Bioaccumulation


14 August 2011
Rainout of hot particles from radioactive clouds to continue for another year — Not just in Pacific Northwest, says Gundersen

...
• We’re going to see [color=Chartreuse]another year of these rainouts

• Rainout: When hot particles get dropped from radioactive clouds during rainstorms

• [color=Cyan]Officials say radiation levels are minute and present no health risk…

I am working with scientists who are publishing a paper that will definitively prove that to be wrong

• Rainouts are occurring not just in Pacific NW… we will continue to see rainouts...

23 August 2011
“We are basically recreating Fukushima all over again” — Clouds of radiation continue across to Pacific Northwest

• Lots of serious ramifications from burning of nuclear waste

• Material from Fukushima that was on the ground is now going airborne again

• Towns now getting cesium redeposited on them by the burning of nuclear material

• Clouds of radiation recontaminating areas deemed clean or low

• Continues across to the Pacific Northwest

25 August 2011
Canada nuke plant shuts down after two malfunctions —
‘Heavy water’ leaking for months unannounced to public

Quebec’s only nuclear power plant was shut down Tuesday night following two malfunctions, including a heavy water leak that Hydro- Quebec didn’t announce for two months.

Can we ask for some transparency here? Same old, same old...

A recuperation system overflowed on June 13 inside the Gentilly-2 plant, located 150 km northeast of Montreal.

Hydro-Quebec spokeswoman Flavie Cote [...] confirmed [color=Salmon]a second problem at the 48-year-old nuclear plant.

A pneumatic valve malfunctioned inside the reactor building. (...)

Again, only a few minutes (seconds) from another Fukushima disaster/fiasco... and, again, a problem with the cooling system!

6 September 2011
More on 'Second Fukushima' in progress for Japan and Pacific Northwest

What I see now is a second Fukushima occurring from burning radioactive waste…

[color=Chartreuse]Basically, the radioactive gases that settled on the ground are going to be thrown into the air and waft into other places in Japan and across the Pacific to British Columbia, Oregon and Washington…

20 September 2011
Canadians suspicious over radiation testing of seafood — Official “puzzled” - gov’t withholding where samples were taken

You just can't make this stuff up...

To be continued ...

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Greetings:


Think about the possibilities if enough people got the message... stay tuned.

(continued from previous post)

20 September 2011
Canadians suspicious over radiation testing of seafood —
Official “puzzled” - gov’t withholding where samples were taken

The Canadian Food Inspection Agency (CIFA) has deemed fish tested in the wake of the Japan nuclear disaster as radiation free, but will not divulge where samples were taken from. (...)
 
The agency did not answer repeated questions about where the samples were taken from in B.C., saying only that they were came from various processing stations. (...)

Stó:lō Tribal Council fisheries advisor Ernie Crey said he is puzzled at the agency’s reticence about where the fish were taken from.

[color=Cyan]'It’s this kind of response from government officials that give rise to suspicion among Canadians,' Crey told Indian Country Today Media Network.

'There is simply no good reason to withhold this information from the public.' (...)

20 October 2011
Now evidence has emerged that the radiation in Canada was worse than Canadian officials ever let on — [color=Chartreuse]Radioactive coverup?

[color=Cyan]'Public officials in Japan and Canada alike jumped straight into Chernobyl-style damage-control mode, dismissing any worries about impacts,' writes The Straight’s Alex Roslin.

The paper has obtained Canadian government data showing a monitoring station in Calgary detected an average of 8.18 Becquerels per liter of radioactive [color=Cyan]Iodine-131 in rainwater last March. This “exceeded Canadian guidelines” according to the paper.

[color=8AFB17]Health Canada’s data on rainwater is “puzzling” because the test results it reported are much lower than the data of Simon Frazer University professor Krzysztof Starosta.

“He found [color=Cyan]Iodine-131 levels in rainwater in Burnaby (near Vancouver) spiked to 13 becquerels per litre in the days after Fukushima.

[color=8AFB17]'That’s many times higher than the levels detected in Vancouver by Health Canada.'

28 October 2011
'High concentrations' of radiation hit US and Canada — Plume was rich in Cesium-137 and “close to the surface” from Vancouver southward — See also Hawaii, Florida

• 'Already on 15 March, a first isolated [color=Cyan]Xenon-133 cloud reached western North America, followed by the arrival of high concentrations of both [color=Cyan]Xenon-133 and [color=Cyan]Cesium-137 on 19 March.'

• “The main part of the radioactive plume entered western North America on 17–18 March.

On 18 March at 12:00UTC, the head of the plume had already arrived over the North Atlantic, but the main part was located over the eastern Pacific Ocean and western North America, where it could be detected at monitoring sites.

[color=Cyan]This part of the plume was also rich in Cesium-137, as it was still close to the surface south of 50 (Most of US/Canada border is 49°).

At the same time, the plume penetrated the subtropics and arrived at Hawaii on 19 March.”

• “A map of the simulated surface concentrations of [color=Cyan]Xenon-133 for 22 March shows that
[color=8AFB17]all of western North America was engulfed by the Fukushima Daiichi Nuclear Power Plant plume, as well as parts of eastern North America and eastern Asia.'

And we would like to share this, as we were a few of the 40,000 (peace) activists at Avila Beach in 1979 and 1981 who said ENOUGH and we are back!

San Luis Obispo Mothers for Peace is a non-profit organization concerned with the local dangers involving the Diablo Canyon Nuclear Power Plant, and with the dangers of nuclear power, weapons and waste on national and global levels.

Additionally, Mothers for Peace concerns itself with issues of peace, social justice and a safe environment.

To be continued ...

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