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Topic started on 13-3-2011 @ 09:43 PM by MaryStillToe


reply posted on 13-3-2011 @ 09:56 PM by Solasis
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It sounds like you had a dream influenced by something you had seen, a lingering memory of a glimpse of an Olmec head, combined with a lingering preoccupation with those black cloaked figures. A lot of people have dreams about black cloaked figures. I suspect that they're some kind of archetype or something, but I'm sure there are other explanations. (For a similar topic to that, Check out the This Man phenomenon.)

IF you think it's more than that, start by Wikiing the Olmec. en.wikipedia.org...



reply posted on 14-3-2011 @ 09:45 PM by MaryStillToe
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Thanks for the name, but I am more interested in learning about this culture's spiritual or religious teachings. The moderator moved my thread, because I guess he didn't understand that my dream led me to learn about this ancient and lost civilization.

This thread shouldn't really be in the paranormal section because it is a REAL ancient and lost civilization.

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Actually no, I have never ever seen these heads before because this is not something you (rather I) would forget once it is seen. Also, this culture is not written about in any of the history books they provide in schools so I am pretty sure that I have never been exposed to these images. It's not a part of mainstream American history. This makes it that more intriguing.


I am really interested if someone has any detailed information about the spiritual practices of this culture. I can't imagine why I would see them in a dream with black robes !!?


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reply posted on 14-3-2011 @ 10:01 PM by Solasis
Originally posted by MaryStillToe
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Actually no, I have never ever seen these heads before because this is not something you (rather I) would forget once it is seen. Also, this culture is not written about in any of the history books they provide in schools so I am pretty sure that I have never been exposed to these images. It's not a part of mainstream American history. This makes it that more intriguing.


I am really interested if someone has any detailed information about the spiritual practices of this culture. I can't imagine why I would see them in a dream with black robes !!?


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Um, WOW. Way to express a limited point of view, dude. They are indeed mentioned in school history books if your history book even touches om meso-America, which, seriously, most of them do.

I can pretty much guarantee that, if you live in the freaking Americas, you have seen some depiction of these giant stone heads. They are totemic of the unknown past of this pair of continents, even though we do know a fair amount about them. The Olmec lived a long time ago and left us GIANT FREAKING HEADS. Hell, you probably saw one in the background of an episode of The Simpsons or something. You didn't consciously register it, which is something that happens all the time with various images, but it somehow showed up in your memory. Because they are cool, interesting, and just kind of weird.


reply posted on 14-3-2011 @ 10:04 PM by MaryStillToe
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I have had plenty of dreams with beings with hooded black robes. However, they never had faces. It was always a dark blur as if nothing existed where their face should be, even when in a room with light.

Also, I know exactly what you mean. I started having dreams similar to yours when I was a kid and when I told my grandmother she told me to pray in Jesus' name to remove the evil spirits.

It seems like whehter or not I pray they always eventually go away but I usually have to fight to get away. My dreams were always where I wake up from sleeping but can't open my eyes. I know I am in my bed in my room, but my body is paralyzed and I typically can't breathe and never can open my eyes. Either I am fighting to wake up because I can't breathe or my heart starts to beat so fast that it feels that I am near a heart attack.

I don't know what these things are, but I have had two dreams now where I have have seen symbols from ancient cultures that I have never seen before. The first time I saw the winged sun disk and that's the first time I learned about Sumerian mythology and spiritual beliefs. Now this dream has led me to the Olmecs.

The dream with the Sumerian hieroglypics / symbols, one of the spirits I couldn't see him but he may have had a black robe and he was teaching me from a wall and told me to write the stuff down. Then all of sudden I was transported to a room and another black hooded thing started paralyzing and taunting me.

This time, the Olmec faces did not attack me at all. They were extremely calm and were just telling a story. At the very end before I woke up, I asked the thing why don't you help us then? I think I might have meant humanity, but I'm not sure. Then he laughed a short ha in a way that seemed he was thinking I have no clue as to what was really going on to say something that silly. Then they disappeared and I woke up. No drama this time. lol

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reply posted on 15-3-2011 @ 01:50 AM by Solasis
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Point 1: I'm 22. Maybe you're like 70, and from before they noticed that historic (South) America was full of fascinating cultures, but who knows.

Point 2: I did not mean any particular episode. I meant to indicate hat popular culture is full of tiny allusions to thing slie this by clever writers/animators who find the aesthetics pleasing and/or amusing.

Point 3: You've had psychic dreams. Really. Your arbitrary claim of this "fact", lacking evidence or any establishment in our community which suggests such, certainly lends strong credence to your claims. Care to express any premonitions that you have had which come true, and any which have yet to come true?

Please. If you are not a troll, apply some critical thinking to what you are saying. Actually consider the circumstances under which you had this dream/night terror/sleep paralysis/oobe. When you have done so, consider all of its possible causes, including having caught a momentary glimpse -- perhaps even subliminal -- of an Olmec Stone Head at som epoint over the previous weeks. Then try to make an argument from a rational standpoint.


reply posted on 15-3-2011 @ 07:47 PM by MaryStillToe
reply to post by Solasis



Let me be clear, I am not trying to convince you or anyone else of what I know to be true. If you don't accept that I believe my dream was inspired by the spiritual world, then you are free to have that opinion.

Also, spirituality is not synonymous with psychic. I don't go around telling fortunes, but I simply know from my own experiences that we are surrounded by an unseen world. Dreams are intended for the recepient, but I thought that went without saying.

I did not post my thread in the paranomal area trying to get attention, I posted in the ancient and lost civilizations forum and a mod moved my thread. I was trying to see if anyone had discovered some less well known information about their religious and spiritual beliefs so that I might gain some additional insight into my dream. Maybe find out why they exposed themselves to me.

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reply posted on 15-3-2011 @ 08:38 PM by Solasis
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"What you know to be true." You know every inch of your subconscious and remember everything you've ever seen but haven't focused on. Because that is completely humanly possible.. And you know what, I saw Olmec heads long before my interest in these fields. Almost certainly in public school books of some kind. But I'm not here to convince you of something I know absolutely to be true.

And, yeah, you did claim you had psychic dreams. You said "I've seen future events through my dreams". I never said that spiritual = psychic. I said that future-knowing was future-knowing

I don't care if you want to convince us or not. The story you told had no suggestion that you were "special," and you gave no reason for any of us to think that this was anything more than an ordinary dream besides you thinking it was. I went on that, WITHOUT DISMISSING YOU, and you dismissed my argument out of hand because "I haven't seen a history book like that." I accept that you think it has a spiritual origin, and support that possibility. I just want you to slightly acknowledge the apparently outlandish possibility that it has a mundane origin. You may notice that I told you to CONSIDER these things, not dismiss your currently held beliefs.

There is very little knowledge of the spiritual practices of the Olmec. they left behind no written texts, and archaeologists and anthropologists have a lot of trouble figuring out spiritual practices and religious beliefs without that kind of thing. That's all you're likely to get without delving into channelers and their ilk, and I'm sure you can find that at your local spiritualist bookstore.
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