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Originally posted by michaelknives52
reply to post by pazcat
as long as it isn't a flop like Battle: Los Angeles. I was really hyped by the trailers waiting for an alien to interact with a marine in their auto tune voice we just want you to die. They really needed to cut out the marine corp. hooah commando bull shyt and include some gory scenes like a captured marine being examined on a probing table, perhaps grays behind the invasion plot with the bio mechanical drones or hell I would take the grays getting involved in fighting back the invaders. Perhaps the mech-aliens were a rival race and those saucers come into play.
I mean Battle: LA was a badly executed ID4 minus will smith and an actual story line. What was the point of even having the viral marketing there were sightings around the world for decades. It seemed like these aliens half assed it... decades worth of planning for water failed by a earth based drone command module being destroyed by a normal missile.
Really if the aliens were smart and if they just wanted water they could have done some of the following suggestions.
A) Launch water collectors in the bottom of ocean trenchs and suck up the water to their hearts content.
B) Establish a forward moon base and place orbital command satellites. If they did their homework they would know that our race is in the infancy of space travel etc. When the SGT. asked his grunt where he would place a important command module so that it would be safe... the grunt said under ground and I screamed no!!!!!! in space where the humans can easily kill it with a laser guided missile for christ sake.
C) Orbital bombardment... why send in infantry when you can zap major population centers from space. Occupation seemed a little bit silly because the only needed to stay on the planet until they collected all of the water they needed. Hell all they would have to do is bow up major oil supply lines and cut off the vital blood need to pilot our military and economy.
D) Eco-Friendly genocide - Why send infantry to an alien planet... too messy. Don't want to nuke a planet and ruin the precious water? Well why not create several seismic events across the planet to create massive tidal waves, earth quakes, and what not to cleanse the landscape of pesky humans. Then for shyts and giggles send the drones and grunts down for a human hunt.
Logistically the aliens in this movies plans were space cow shyt and pretty dumb. I guess they just felt like engaging the less advance species man to man for a resource gathering.
Many have stated perhaps earth was one front on an intergalactic war? well it would have been nice if this was the case in the movie and a UFO battle took place over los angeles humans vs. bio-roids vs. whatever else. If the human leadership was approached by a third party species that wanted to help us fight them then yes this would be acceptable.
NO i didn't want to see the same movie marine characters that fight honorably for their country... I went to see the imagined alien species and their agenda etc. The aliens barely got any screen time and they always clustered together. I kept screaming in my head NOOB TUBE THEM YOU RETARDS (video game talk for fire grenade launchers at them but the marines just kept dying.
This movie was a waste of money but let me stop ranting. I bet if we started a thread about writing a screen play for a perfect genre defining UFO/alien invasion movie on ATS it would be gold and we would win many rewards. It seems like the director googled some aspects of UFO lore etc, rented ID4, black hawkdown, and terminator on netflix and then said hey I got an great idea for a movie. We can cash in on nerds going to see it because of the cool ass trailer. Seriously why no auto-tuned alien voice or transmission in the flick. Even scenes from the aliens perspective with subtitles could have replaced the BS overly dramatic scenes. I don't even remember the names of the characters.
Hopefully this movie APOLLO 18 gets an r rating... the aliens/virus are cool... it seems like they are going to set it up like cloverfield. Should be neat. This won't be genre defining but hopefully it will play out better as an DEAD SPACE type horror film... It seems like it is going to have elements like the movie SPHERE.
Dr. Phil Valentine will tell you why..It's because NOTHING can get through the Van Allen Belt alive..WE have never been out of the 7 layers of this earths atmosphere.
Missions beyond low earth orbit leave the protection of the geomagnetic field, and transit the Van Allen belts. Thus they may need to be shielded against exposure to cosmic rays, Van Allen radiation, or solar flares. The region between two to four earth radii lies between the two radiation belts and is sometimes referred to as the "safe zone".
Myth:The Van Allen belts are full of deadly radiation, and anyone passing through them would be fried.
Needless to say this is a very simplistic statement. Yes, there is deadly radiation in the Van Allen belts, but the nature of that radiation was known to the Apollo engineers and they were able to make suitable preparations. The principle danger of the Van Allen belts is high-energy protons, which are not that difficult to shield against. And the Apollo navigators plotted a course through the thinnest parts of the belts and arranged for the spacecraft to pass through them quickly, limiting the exposure. The Van Allen belts span only about forty degrees of earth's latitude -- twenty degrees above and below the magnetic equator. The diagrams of Apollo's translunar trajectory printed in various press releases are not entirely accurate. They tend to show only a two-dimensional version of the actual trajectory. The actual trajectory was three-dimensional. The highly technical reports of Apollo, accessible to but not generally understood by the public, give the three-dimensional details of the translunar trajectory. Each mission flew a slightly different trajectory in order to access its landing site, but the orbital inclination of the translunar coast trajectory was always in the neighborhood of 30°. Stated another way, the geometric plane containing the translunar trajectory was inclined to the earth's equator by about 30°. A spacecraft following that trajectory would bypass all but the edges of the Van Allen belts. This is not to dispute that passage through the Van Allen belts would be dangerous. But NASA conducted a series of experiments designed to investigate the nature of the Van Allen belts, culminating in the repeated traversal of the Southern Atlantic Magnetic Anomaly (an intense, low-hanging patch of Van Allen belt) by the Gemini 10 astronauts.
Originally posted by michaelknives52
reply to post by pazcat
as long as it isn't a flop like Battle: Los Angeles. I was really hyped by the trailers waiting for an alien to interact with a marine in their auto tune voice we just want you to die. They really needed to cut out the marine corp. hooah commando bull shyt and include some gory scenes like a captured marine being examined on a probing table, perhaps grays behind the invasion plot with the bio mechanical drones or hell I would take the grays getting involved in fighting back the invaders. Perhaps the mech-aliens were a rival race and those saucers come into play.
I mean Battle: LA was a badly executed ID4 minus will smith and an actual story line. What was the point of even having the viral marketing there were sightings around the world for decades. It seemed like these aliens half assed it... decades worth of planning for water failed by a earth based drone command module being destroyed by a normal missile.
Really if the aliens were smart and if they just wanted water they could have done some of the following suggestions.
A) Launch water collectors in the bottom of ocean trenchs and suck up the water to their hearts content.
B) Establish a forward moon base and place orbital command satellites. If they did their homework they would know that our race is in the infancy of space travel etc. When the SGT. asked his grunt where he would place a important command module so that it would be safe... the grunt said under ground and I screamed no!!!!!! in space where the humans can easily kill it with a laser guided missile for christ sake.
C) Orbital bombardment... why send in infantry when you can zap major population centers from space. Occupation seemed a little bit silly because the only needed to stay on the planet until they collected all of the water they needed. Hell all they would have to do is bow up major oil supply lines and cut off the vital blood need to pilot our military and economy.
D) Eco-Friendly genocide - Why send infantry to an alien planet... too messy. Don't want to nuke a planet and ruin the precious water? Well why not create several seismic events across the planet to create massive tidal waves, earth quakes, and what not to cleanse the landscape of pesky humans. Then for shyts and giggles send the drones and grunts down for a human hunt.
Logistically the aliens in this movies plans were space cow shyt and pretty dumb. I guess they just felt like engaging the less advance species man to man for a resource gathering.
Many have stated perhaps earth was one front on an intergalactic war? well it would have been nice if this was the case in the movie and a UFO battle took place over los angeles humans vs. bio-roids vs. whatever else. If the human leadership was approached by a third party species that wanted to help us fight them then yes this would be acceptable.
NO i didn't want to see the same movie marine characters that fight honorably for their country... I went to see the imagined alien species and their agenda etc. The aliens barely got any screen time and they always clustered together. I kept screaming in my head NOOB TUBE THEM YOU RETARDS (video game talk for fire grenade launchers at them but the marines just kept dying.
This movie was a waste of money but let me stop ranting. I bet if we started a thread about writing a screen play for a perfect genre defining UFO/alien invasion movie on ATS it would be gold and we would win many rewards. It seems like the director googled some aspects of UFO lore etc, rented ID4, black hawkdown, and terminator on netflix and then said hey I got an great idea for a movie. We can cash in on nerds going to see it because of the cool ass trailer. Seriously why no auto-tuned alien voice or transmission in the flick. Even scenes from the aliens perspective with subtitles could have replaced the BS overly dramatic scenes. I don't even remember the names of the characters.
Hopefully this movie APOLLO 18 gets an r rating... the aliens/virus are cool... it seems like they are going to set it up like cloverfield. Should be neat. This won't be genre defining but hopefully it will play out better as an DEAD SPACE type horror film... It seems like it is going to have elements like the movie SPHERE.
Originally posted by muzzleflash
Here is the newest official NASA Budget document I can find. It lists FY2007 to FY2013 and the planned expenditures.
Notice that the Space Shuttle program will be 100% over by 2013, and that the major funding will be diverted into the ongoing Constellation program. That program's funding is increasing rapidly as the Shuttle program is being scrapped.
NASA Budget
And here is a link to the Constellation Program main page
I agree that it is odd we have not been back to the moon.
Originally posted by DomCheetham
reply to post by vinunleaded
Whilst it is budget it is also very dangerous. How they made it then is amazing. Which is why poeple think that it is fake.
Could've it beened faked absolutely but probably is not. Did aliens warn them off, maybe. I would say there is more than just budget that stops them from going back.
Originally posted by vinunleaded
If the moon is so freaking interesting to you, then go to college.
Originally posted by DomCheetham
Originally posted by vinunleaded
If the moon is so freaking interesting to you, then go to college.
I know you should.