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Originally posted by laymanskeptic
Originally posted by bhornbuckle75
HOWEVER (lol): aliens still do not exist!!! Because there is no concrete and irrefutable evidence that will prove their existence beyond reasonable doubt!
Their technology is so simple it will blow your mind how simple it is, you should see the schematics. A bit of relativity and some quantu.... uh... no... wait... they don't exist...
Well said.....Still I am the type that likes to beat a dead horse....so
No concrete and irrefutable evidence that proves their existance is not proof that they do not exist...it only proves that they have not left any concrete or irrufutable evidence!
As for your last line....LMAO!!! Nicely put!! Made me laugh!
Originally posted by Deja`Vu
What if they are not aliens but us 10's of 1,000's of years in the future time traveling in the past and studying history. maybe they can't intervene. maybe we are alone in this solar system but rest assured i do believe there is some form of life in the universe, it is a big place u know!
Originally posted by prepared4truth
So just because nobody came and swooped us from our own mess, there are no aliens?
Hmmm... something doesn't seem right with that logic...
In the universe of Star Trek, the Prime Directive, Starfleet's General Order #1, is the most prominent guiding principle of the United Federation of Planets. The Prime Directive dictates that there can be no interference with the internal development of pre-warp civilizations, consistent with the historical real world concept of Westphalian sovereignty. It has special implications, however, for civilizations that have not yet developed the technology for interstellar spaceflight ("pre-warp"), since no primitive culture can be given or exposed to any information regarding advanced technology or the existence of extraplanetary civilizations, lest this exposure alter the natural development of the civilization. Although this was the only application stated by Captain Kirk in "The Return of the Archons", by the 24th Century, it had been indicated to include purposeful efforts to improve or change in any way the natural course of such a society, even if that change is well-intentioned and kept completely secret. "Pre-warp" is defined as any culture which has not yet attained warp drive technology and is thus, implicitly, unaware of the existence of alien races. Starfleet allows scientific missions to investigate and secretly move amongst pre-warp civilizations as long as no advanced technology is left behind, and there is no interference with events or no revelation of their identity. This can usually be accomplished with hidden observation posts, but Federation personnel may disguise themselves as local sentient life and interact with them. The Prime Directive is a Starfleet regulation, and thus only applies to Starfleet officers. Civilian citizens of the Federation are not bound by it. In fact, if a Federation citizen has chosen to personally interfere with another civilization, Starfleet is powerless to remove that individual, under penalty of court-martial. The only stated exception to the Prime Directive is the Omega Directive, in which a captain is authorized to take any means to destroy Omega Particles when detected. Whenever the Omega Directive is in force, the Prime Directive is effectively rescinded.
Originally posted by GodIsPissed
Just my opinion but I honestly believe that we got our technology from aliens.
I think an alien craft either crashed or was shot down and studied.
So when are the mods going to put this in the hoax section???
Originally posted by TheSeYeR
Bear in mind if they do exist we would appear somewhat like a dog that keeps going to the toilet in its own food and purposely breaking his own legs, I dont know if you consider yourself a good person but would you travel half way across the world to save this dog even with the doubt it probably wont accept help, if they were benevolent then they would probably turn up only when a majority of the human beings here on earth were welcoming and ready to such an experience, it would do no good if it were only going to create more chaos and confusion.
Originally posted by Dinogur
hey even if we did shoot it down- y dont we scramble jets every time any one reports a ufo?
Originally posted by confuciusion
Personally, a lot of the alien/ufo stuff out there is heresy. Even if you went up to a craft, you don't truly know for a fact where it came from. Looking up and seeing a ufo in the sky and deeming it an alien from zeta reticuli in an off the cuff "I heard it on coast to coast" assumption is sort of like someone whose never seen an alligator before going to florida, seeing one and claiming dinosaurs are still around.
This whole thing seems like a giant game of telephone: "I saw a light in the sky last night" "that was an alien, here by my book for 40 bucks and come to my seminars for 20 bucks."
I've had one ufo experience in my life. It was a group of fast moving orange lights. They seemed to zip past, coalescing and dividing amongst themselves rapidly. Would I assume them aliens? No. The fact is, we as conscious beings know very little about what makes this existence up. Many alien abductions can be manufactured by taking '___', does that make them less real? No, it might be an extra dimensional thing. The fact of the matter here is, when you throw all your eggs in one basket and say "heres some lights in the sky, its ET, they're coming to save us from our own stupidity." is foolish.
So I see the OP as a wake up call to all the intelligent people who tend to get stuck in their ego about the whole ufo thing. Start putting your heads else where, and who knows maybe they might come around eventually when we're on a straighter path.