Did Aliens Help Build The Great Pyramids

Look...I don't believe that the Egyptians could build those pyramids. I have personally been to Egypt and have seen the pyramids. There is no way in God's green earth that they could have gotten those bricks (you can't even call them bricks they're so massive) up to the upper levels without having people constantly peeling over due to torn muscles in the back. If you have not seen the pyramids, you really have no idea what your talking about. See them first hand, and then see if you have the same beliefs.

Ive seen specials on the Discovery channel(or on Nova) many times, in which they build these mini pyramids, with the same size stones. Sure it will take longer, but it is perfectly possible. Nothing about the pyramids violates any prescribed engineering rules, thus aliens(if they exist) could not have built them.

Hi to all of you.
The qustion was and still is:
''Did aliens help build the great pyramides''
Now we are the page 9---replies 161. OK?
But from the 1st to the last-161 we finded a lot of amalgame:
Aliens;Egyptiens ;rampe;stons..ets.
NO RAMPE---LEVITATION
NO BRONZE-TOOLS----SON/WAVE....TO CUT THE STONE
Look for tranlaiting from french to english and ask an
open-minded ingeneer:
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-La scie de Rees dont la circonference est lise � l'encontre des scies

ordinaires, permet de couper les metaux sans les toucher: la pi�ce

� d�biter avance r�guli�rement au moyen d'un chariot � vis sans

contact immediat avec la scie, le m�tal fond en projetant des �tince

lles et fait curieux, la coul�e de m�tal tombe sans temp�rature

�lev�e puisqu'on peut la recueillir dans la main.

Les explications donn�es par les constructeurs et qui font absrac-

tions de la d�sint�gration, ne semblent pas tr�s convaincantes!!!

Le diam�tre de cette scie est de 1.066 metre, elle fonctionne

� 2.300 t/m et sa vitesse tangentielle � cette allure de regime

est de 7.700 metres/minute.
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L'onde de vitesse pouss�e � un certain point ne pourrait-elle pas

produire la d�sint�gration de la mati�re dans champ naturellement r�duit?


The goal is ultrason! Capito gentlemens? That invention exist

before WWI


GREETHINGS chapo

How did they cut those blocks? Did they drop them? LMAO. Or did they judo chop them?

Originally posted by Chieftian Chaos
Look...I don't believe that the Egyptians could build those pyramids. I have personally been to Egypt and have seen the pyramids. There is no way in God's green earth that they could have gotten those bricks (you can't even call them bricks they're so massive) up to the upper levels without having people constantly peeling over due to torn muscles in the back. If you have not seen the pyramids, you really have no idea what your talking about. See them first hand, and then see if you have the same beliefs.

Well, you don't have to see them to know that they were in fact man made. There have been documentaries that show it's even possible today to move 40 ton bricks up a gentle slop. Take 10k men and 20 years and the task of bulding a pyramid is not only possible, but simplistic. just because you think that it's too big or too much for YOU to grasp, doesn't mean that the human mind in general cannot acheive this feat. But what's the point in arguing this. They were big rocks. No one can move big rocks. It's just too dang hard

I do know that the Egyptians were master craftsmen (hell...they had to be if they made those things), but we are talking about the 3 Pyramids and the Sphynix (which continues to marvel me to this day on how it was crafted). But we all will have our own beliefs. Now, I'm not saying that aliens (if they exist) helped, but it sure woulda have been very very very difficult to A) Move the blocks to the upper levels to construct the pyramid, B) Make it rigid enough to move through, and C) Carve those huge and tough stones.

imagine a person from the 15th century that sees a television.he doesn't understand how it works and says that it's the devil that made it

now you guys see pyramids and can't understand that people made them,and say it's aliens that must of built them...

where is the difference? 500 years later and people react the same way before things that they don't understand

[edit on 23-8-2004 by DarkSide]

Originally posted by Chieftian Chaos
I do know that the Egyptians were master craftsmen (hell...they had to be if they made those things), but we are talking about the 3 Pyramids and the Sphynix (which continues to marvel me to this day on how it was crafted). But we all will have our own beliefs. Now, I'm not saying that aliens (if they exist) helped, but it sure woulda have been very very very difficult to A) Move the blocks to the upper levels to construct the pyramid, B) Make it rigid enough to move through, and C) Carve those huge and tough stones.

So what about the Mayan Tamples, the Chinese Pyramids, the Pyramids in South American. If we say the Egyption pyramids were not manmade, then we must say that all others were not man made as well. And we know this is not true. Have you done any research on this? I only ask because a few simple searches on the internet can show you just how possible it was for man to do this.

unmuseum.mus.pa.us...

www.pbs.org...

www.touregypt.net...

www.touregypt.net... (this one is real good!)

I posted an excerpt from a calculation of a 2000 person workforce that could have been easily used over a period of 10 years.

Calculations

Most big building projects, such as building the medieval cathedrals, used a constant, skilled work force over many years. Let us assume that the great pyramid was no different. So let us assume a fairly constant skilled workforce working 300 days per year, and a target of 10 years to completion. There is no reason to vary the rate of building as the pyramid rises.
In 10 years we have 3000 working days.
So each day we need to cut, move and place 2 000 000 / 3000 = 666 blocks per day.
Let us assume 700 blocks per day to allow for some wastage.

I am going to use the figures for cutting stone by hand provided by the Beer Quarry Caves in Devon UK. Here it took 10 hours for one man to cut a 4 ton block of stone.
It seems a reasonable deduction that on average 1 man will be expected to cut 1 block of stone of 2.5 tons as his days work - an easy measure of whether he has worked well that day!

So 700 blocks per day requires 700 men as cutters in the quarries.
100 men each loading and transporting 7 blocks per day and removing debris.
10 men each preparing 70 saws per day.

If I were building the pyramid I would hope to cut the stone from a quarry from a rock face slightly uphill of the building site, even up to 10 miles away, so that I can build a wooden sledge track with a downhill slope to the quarry site. Even at that distance a team of one man and a pair of oxen should haul 3 blocks per day.
So for transport to the building site we need 250 men.

Lifting the stone up the sloping face of the pyramid using the Herodotus lifting engine requires a team of 6 people pulling the levers to lift a block 1m in 10 seconds with an expenditure of 500w of energy each.

If we assume that they are not being flogged to death, take a reasonable rest between each block and we use 10 lifting engines side by side, then each engine series needs to lift 70 blocks per day.

This is the one area where the workforce has to increase as the pyramid gets higher, because we are using a team of 60 people for every metre it increases in height, but this is not skilled labour - just pull and release the levers, then sit down and rest for 5 minutes.
On the working level we need 100 people to move and place the blocks, 10 people to move and rebuild the sledge tracks and perhaps another 20 people to lower the sledges back to the ground - but the sensible way would be to lower the sledges on ropes attached to the rising sledges, so reducing the energy required for both operations.

Add another 10 carpenters to maintain the tracks.

Add another 300 people to do all the checking, supervising and procurement

And we have a grand total of 2000 people to build a pyramid up to the 10m level and then an extra 60 people for each metre extra height.

Not a vast number!! and far more likely to be specialist workers paid well on a year round basis.

www.peter-thomson.co.uk...

[edit on 23-8-2004 by mpeake]

[edit on 23-8-2004 by mpeake]

Hi Mpeake, leave the peace of that 4 internet sites. Printed yours

calculations and give to an architect if you know, just ask him.


regards chapo

Originally posted by chapo
Hi Mpeake, leave the peace of that 4 internet sites. Printed yours

calculations and give to an architect if you know, just ask him.


regards chapo

??? Can some please translate?

Yea i dont get it either?????

I don't think aliens helped build the pyramids personally, I mean, why would they?
It's not like stargate where they're using them as landing pads, hehe

I've seen the pyramids infront of me in the flesh. Before I saw them I thought there was no way man could build such a thing without help or knowledge which is unknown today.

After seeing them in the flesh there is no doubt in my mind. Man did not build them with raw man power. Not only were those blocks put into place, there were transfered from A to B. Not only were they transfered but they were cut to the exact measurement that you cannot fit a piece of paper between them. They are also aligned with the 3 stars in orions belt, an extensive knowledge of the stars is need to acheive such a task. Also viewing certain stars through certain shafts was another thing that need knowledge of the stars.

One more thing. The Pyramid of Giza is located at the centre of Earths land mass, that alone require knowledge of the Earth and at least a birds eye view of the world.

Man power MAY, MAY, have been used to fashion them. They sure weren't positioned by man knowledge. Thats my 2 cents.

[edit on 23-8-2004 by 7th_Chakra]

I saw the pyramids and there is no doubt THEY ARE MAN MADE.

I've also been to Luxor and there are remnants of the mud slide they used to haul the stones up the wall during construction.

I've been to many other places like Angkor Wat, and they all are great and massive and all are built by humans.

Peace.

^nuff said...^

Originally posted by 7th_Chakra
I've seen the pyramids infront of me in the flesh. Before I saw them I thought there was no way man could build such a thing without help or knowledge which is unknown today.

After seeing them in the flesh there is no doubt in my mind. Man did not build them with raw man power. Not only were those blocks put into place, there were transfered from A to B. Not only were they transfered but they were cut to the exact measurement that you cannot fit a piece of paper between them. They are also aligned with the 3 stars in orions belt, an extensive knowledge of the stars is need to acheive such a task. Also viewing certain stars through certain shafts was another thing that need knowledge of the stars.

One more thing. The Pyramid of Giza is located at the centre of Earths land mass, that alone require knowledge of the Earth and at least a birds eye view of the world.

Man power MAY, MAY, have been used to fashion them. They sure weren't positioned by man knowledge. Thats my 2 cents.

[edit on 23-8-2004 by 7th_Chakra]

Did you read any of the links I provided a few posts above? If so, how can you fail to see how they could be built by man alone?

Mpeake,
Are you forcing people to believe humans build the piramids?

Originally posted by Italiano
Mpeake,
Are you forcing people to believe humans build the piramids?

Not at all. Did you read those peoples posts? Both of them said the same thing. They both said that the pyramid looked too big and complicated to have been built by man. No reasons other than they couldn't comprehend such a task. All I ask is that they do a little research before throwing the greatest architectual acheivement known to man out the window. I've posted several good and credible links that explains in great lengths the process that was taken to acheive such feats. These aren't stories made up by wishful thinking archeologists or scientist, but are proven facts based on years of tedious study and research. Don't just discredit the work that has been done to unearth these facts by brilliant men and women around the world, just because the pyramids look too big for your imagination. Let's give the human race a bit more credit than that!

And who's to say that they didn't have the ability to calculate the alignment of the stars to match the building of the pyramids? Not you, not me, not anyone who wasn't there. The human mind was and is capable of such things.

[edit on 23-8-2004 by mpeake]

7th chakra:
They are also aligned with the 3 stars in orions belt,

No. There are three out of the dozens of pyramids in egypt that look like they are arranged in a way that is similar to the arrangement of three stars in orions belt; that is to say, two more or less in line and a third slightly off that line. This alignment is not indicative of anything, and even if it is supposed to be orion's belt, why should'nt the egyptians have been able to do this?

an extensive knowledge of the stars is need to acheive such a task. Also viewing certain stars through certain shafts was another thing that need knowledge of the stars.

Yes, requiring a person to, uhm, look up. Seriously, aligning the shafts of the pyramids with some stars definitely required extensive knowledge of where the stars are. Why does this require aliens? The stars are visible. They don't require a telescope to be seen.

One more thing. The Pyramid of Giza is located at the centre of Earths land mass

What exactly is that supposed to even mean?

everlastingnoitall:
you're right, my mistake. true and magnetic are two different things, but was true and magnetic aligned and the same at the time of construction?

No, in fact, I've never heard of them ever being aligned. Also, there are multiple magnetic norths.

Originally posted by Nygdan
No, in fact, I've never heard of them ever being aligned. Also, there are multiple magnetic norths.

Okay if there are multiple magnetic norths than can you tell me how compass's work? Magnetic north has changed but there are not mutiple ones. Maybe a trail left behind but not multiple.