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Ufo's, New Age. They are not what you think they are!

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posted on Apr, 15 2011 @ 01:20 PM
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I tried to answer in paragraphs, to each of yours, but I can't figure it out, so I'll just respond to it in total.


This is a copy and paste procedure. You first highlight post in another window , bring same page in another window, then highlight, copy, pull up page with reply window, go to 'quote' at the top click it, allow scripted text, click quote again, window will show up on the top left, then click empty space and paste. Paragraph you highlighed should show up in window then reply. Keep doing this to all the rest. I also cannot figure out how you're doing what your doing either.




I can imagine the curled and twisted road you took from anchoring your beliefs within ufology, to anchoring them within the Christian doctrine. Some journey, eh?


When I was six years old I attended Sunday School in a Baptist church. They told the story of Eve eating an apple and all humanity fell because of her sin. To my young mind I'm thinking to myself "Why are we still eating these things if they did so much damage?" I knew it was a lie and if a church will tell you that one what else are they lying about? They were not lying exactly only making it polatible for such young minds. Well, later in life when I could read on my own and take an interest in knowing what things of God are all about I found out that there was no apple tree in the Garden of Eden anyway , they covered themselves with fig leaves. This is a long story.

Later, my mom told me the strangest book to her was Ezekiel and that flying craft he encountered. My mind opened wide then. And, having an interest by the time I was 16 in UFO's anyway, I read through the beginning of this book, and thought, that's a UFO . Well, I now don't feel it is, but it jump started the two Biblical study and Ufology for me. In my earlier post to you, you see how I put this together. It's been a journey that I'm glad I followed, but , I just like to study these things as a curiosity anyway.




I myself went from growing up in a sect, directly to atheism, over agnosticism, through trying to find God again in various scriptures, right back to agnosticism and currently I'm at a sort of neutral ground. I believe in God, in a Creator, but I'm trying to find where it is at - HOW it is, why it is, etc. I'm thankful for rediscovering my spirituality, but now I've pushed myself into a corner, where I don't know where to turn - only that I want to turn to love. I hope that makes more sense to you than it does to me. hehe


We can't help how we're raised to believe by our parents/guadians and there is no fault. I see you are searching as I believe all people do and I have as well. I've known of Catholics raised in catholic schools , families, who rebel and want nothing to do with organized religion. I'm not catholic, more like Pentecostal/Seventh Day Adventist, but I go to no church, only appear the part , long hair , long skirts, hardly any make-up, I'm modest.

Your wanting to turn to love is the right thing to do anyway, God is there. Say a prayer and ask for something small , trivial item to show up in your life, kind of a wish of sorts and I'll bet it shows up. Maybe not right away, but you'll know because it will jog your memory when it shows up. If you have spirituality and love and go by what Jesus and only Jesus teaches, to Love one another , you've got it all.




Reading my own words above, I realize it sounds as if I'm lost. I'm not lost. I have the light in my chest and I want to broaden it, share it, manifest it thousandfold - but I need more meaning to my Creator. I seek more truth.


Jesus speaking: "Ask and ye shall recieve, seek and ye shall find, knock and the door shall be opened unto you." My favorite passage in the whole bible. He's just given you the very recipe for the Law of Attraction. No, you are not lost, you're on a journey and Jesus is the The Truth , The Way and The Light. I don't know if you're open to Christ's teachings but they are much like Budhism to me. Peacefull. Our Creator knows we are children and he loves his children and doesn't want to see not one go astray. He knows your heart.




The Sumerian and Babylonian texts are simply astonishing to me. They were my first real keys to understanding the Bible and the Quran. Reading these texts changed my life. It sounds dramatic and it was. I am still turning stones in my research of ancient texts, because I do not feel I have the entire story in my grasp, but boy did those texts provide a meaning. Simply amazing.


I've never read either of these Babylonian and Sumerian save for the Epic of Gilgamesh, maybe when you post back to me you will tell me some stories to read or tell me about them. They sound interesting. I hope you will.




You ask what I produce - I produce several things, but my focus, personally, is on news.


I knew it. Are you a public figure/speaker or just behind the scenes?




Let me ask you a question DaphneApollo, if that is alright. Which text, scripture or lesson would you deem most important within Christianity, to read up on, to broaden my horizon towards this elusive deity you refer to as God? It could also be a non-Christian piece of information, that you feel resonates bigtime with your belief? I'm always looking for new angles and you seem to have swallowed up a lot of research, while going from ufoologist to Christian, yeah?


The Sermon on the Mount, these are Jesus words. Hinduism , Budhism, Sermon on the Mount click. Just know that there is a God and you are a part of him and one of his precious children.

I'm still a seeker, I've figured out alot on my own. I feel that some not all churches fleece their flock instead of protect them from the wolves. I don't need to spend time getting ready to go to a church then not being taught any thing. Bless you, I hope this helps. Daphne.




posted on Apr, 15 2011 @ 04:22 PM
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Enjoy.




posted on Apr, 16 2011 @ 12:31 AM
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I have often wondered my self, why if they are so advanced they do nothing to help Japan, or Haiti Victims, I believe and have believed as you do.

Its funny how they show up before and after a calamity, could it be that they are harvesting unsaved souls?



posted on Apr, 16 2011 @ 12:44 AM
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There are two flaws to your viewpoint I noticed right off the bat:

1) You are saying that aliens are evil (demons) because they would not help us ( a 'lesser species' ) if we were in peril.

This does not make them evil. In fact, humans (yes that includes christians) are FAR more evil toward the 'lesser species' than these 'demons'. Look at how we treat cows, pigs, chickens, etc... we breed them, keep them in cages, abuse them for their milk, eggs, fur, etc. and then we murder them and eat their flesh. Even if the aliens are controlling us and abducting a few of us, or even eating some of us, it PALES in comparison to how we humans treat the creatures we consider to be below us.

2) You seem to be lumping all aliens into the same category. There are several flavors of 'extra-terrestrial' beings. Some benign, some good, some not so good (evil, selfish, or whatever). Some are physical, some are etherial, interdimensional, supernatural or whatever...

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3) You also say that if alien X denies the existence of Jesus, that makes said alien evil. This is completely illogical and therefore false. But Christians are not conditioned to think with their brains, they are conditioned to think with an 'us versus them' mentality which is where their fear/mistrust of extra-terrestrial entities stems from... imho.
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posted on Apr, 16 2011 @ 10:20 AM
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Hi avatar01,




This does not make them evil. In fact, humans (yes that includes christians) are FAR more evil toward the 'lesser species' than these 'demons'. Look at how we treat cows, pigs, chickens, etc... we breed them, keep them in cages, abuse them for their milk, eggs, fur, etc. and then we murder them and eat their flesh. Even if the aliens are controlling us and abducting a few of us, or even eating some of us, it PALES in comparison to how we humans treat the creatures we consider to be below us.


Have you read the thread avatar01? If you'll go back to page 15, in my reply to Scissorville, you'll find what I believed in my early 20's. What you'll find there will shock you about what I believ/d .

And I agree with you on the 'humans' are evil and are more demonic behaving than supposed visitors are. At the same time when I bagan my quest of UFOs I was and still am to a certain degree Vegetarian. I don't agree with the cutting of animals throats for Judaic sacrifices, food, slaughter, fur trade , animal testing, And I have dogs and have lost three in the last three months that tore my heart out because they are my family members. I care and I care a hell of a lot about the issues you just mentioned. And I don't consider them to be below us either.
You seem to be a very conciencious person, I hope you're veg or vegan.

Some humans behave as monsters , I agree completely with you. But, some are not , we'll just have to send love to those who behave as idiots won't we, even though we don't like them, and I don't like alot of people who can do these things you've mentioned. I would truly wish Karma would do the same to them.




2) You seem to be lumping all aliens into the same category. There are several flavors of 'extra-terrestrial' beings. Some benign, some good, some not so good (evil, selfish, or whatever). Some are physical, some are etherial, interdimensional, supernatural or whatever...


Would you read the thread first, I feel you've read only the opening post and I should have changed it. Watch the videos too, you'll see where I'm going with this o.k.





3) You also say that if alien X denies the existence of Jesus, that makes said alien evil. This is completely illogical and therefore false. But Christians are not conditioned to think with their brains, they are conditioned to think with an 'us versus them' mentality which is where their fear/mistrust of extra-terrestrial entities stems from... imho.


I said that if they malign Christ they're not to be trusted. Why? This is new age jargon meant to lead you astray, we're all gods, Jesus didn't die for you, same old stuff Satan used in the Garden. ' You won't die, who told you that.' A lie otherwise.

Christians are thinking with their brains and logic on top of it. They are taught to arm themselves with the word. Have you read Christs teachings only, what could ever be wrong with LOVE, you seem to have it for animals and their welfare, which is commendable, I applaud you for it and feel the same way. No child, animal should be mistreated cruely, period.

Not all Christians mistrust aliens. Did you know the Catholic church calls them our brothers and wishes to Baptise them? No, I've come to my conclusions over many years and just in the last 3 months things start to come together with the help of another member on ATS. It all fits together for me and maybe you'll get it too if you read the rest of the thread and watch Videos. Bless you.



posted on Apr, 16 2011 @ 10:41 AM
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Now I know Why I havent been abducted by Demons....I drive a Chrysler!! Get it...Pentastar!!!...oh well.


You know, that is quite funny. There are a lot of Christians who drive Dodges and Chryslers around, and Ram trucks. On the hood is either a pentagram, or a Ram's head, and on the trunk is a symbol of the Winged Planet Nibiru. Now it's real funny to me when I see a truck with the devil's ram head on the front and a Jesus fish on the tailgate. What are they are they attempting to tell us? That is all truth their God is Satan?



posted on Apr, 16 2011 @ 10:47 AM
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I completely agree with you. I think the bible is not something to regard as truth maybe some stories in it might have happened but everything no... I completely agree that if Jesus was real and a son of god then hello he is not completely of Earth! and mating is sex! So either Mary got artificially insaminated (by an ALIEN) or she was NOT a virgin. I don't think people who think healing someone was Magickal or a gift from a god knew how to artificially insiminate someone....... Aliens are regular people they might look different but, in essence they still bleed and have feelings. They are not demons. Just simply Beings like us.



posted on Apr, 16 2011 @ 11:32 PM
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This is a brilliant presentation by Chuck Missler. Try to ignore the music, it's annoying! But, this is a very good and intelligent series, he ties it together with scripture and science.

Ancient Alien Nephilim, Giants, Mutants, Genetic Engineering, and Hybrids (1-4)







posted on Apr, 18 2011 @ 10:51 AM
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Alien Abductions are not what you think-Dr. Scott Johnson




posted on Apr, 19 2011 @ 09:38 AM
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Want to know the real truth, well here it is. God Bless you all, be love , be wise , pay attention the birth pangs are getting closer together, earth changes, wars and rumors of wars. Things are ramping up faster and faster. Look up, your redemption draws nigh.




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posted on Apr, 20 2011 @ 11:16 AM
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aliensrevealed.blogspot.com... For further reading and study please read.


Solving the UFO Mystery (8 of 9)




posted on Apr, 26 2011 @ 09:47 PM
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Yes this is true aliens are Demons manifested in physical form and we as followers of Christ have the power to cast them out. My mothers friend cast out a grey when it entered his room at night (He wasn't asleep just yet) and it disappeared instantly.



posted on Apr, 27 2011 @ 12:25 AM
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Originally posted by precicio
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I have often wondered my self, why if they are so advanced they do nothing to help Japan, or Haiti Victims, I believe and have believed as you do.

Its funny how they show up before and after a calamity, could it be that they are harvesting unsaved souls?


Here is a couple of "picks" for ya:

1) Your governments won't allow it. And, the only ones interested in helping have enough respect for all of you that they simply will not until asked.

2) With all the racist talk, in this thread anyway, why, in the name of truth and light should we? I mean, really! You calls us evil, demons, and many other things. So where is the incentive to lend any aid.

3 years ago I told my mother that I wanted to stay here for a while, in the hopes of helping y'all, but, help depends on disclosure. Then I see threads like this one and simply want to go home and leave you to your extinction.

So, you tell me why we should help you.



posted on Apr, 27 2011 @ 03:58 AM
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Alien is not a race.


By all means, please get out of here. Go back to your planet and leave us alone.



posted on Apr, 27 2011 @ 09:09 AM
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Originally posted by 547000
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Alien is not a race.


Neither is "black", "white", "yellow", or "red". Yet you have no trouble making it so. Also, to me you are alien; does that make Human not a race?



By all means, please get out of here. Go back to your planet and leave us alone.


If it were that simple, I would have left last night! Cuz I can see by all the intelligent actions taken by you Humans, that we are not needed! You can handle your own problems. Just look at how Japan was taken care of! Three reactors melting, no problems!

And, of course, the two rocks on their way won't be a problem either. So, I guess its okay if we let them hit you. Massive solar storms, won't be an issue either, you won't need any recovery efforts, nor possible deflection.

Yeah! I can see that you got your bases covered! I have a suggestion; open your mind, and make some small attempt to use it ... just once!

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posted on Apr, 27 2011 @ 09:09 AM
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Originally posted by HaoleBoy420
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Yes this is true aliens are Demons manifested in physical form and we as followers of Christ have the power to cast them out. My mothers friend cast out a grey when it entered his room at night (He wasn't asleep just yet) and it disappeared instantly.


Hey HaoleBoy420,

Christ seems to work in these cases. What they're up to maybe we'll all know one way or the other soon.



posted on Apr, 27 2011 @ 09:20 AM
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edit on 27-4-2011 by 547000 because: Ah, forget it. Why even bother humoring this guy?



posted on Apr, 27 2011 @ 10:08 AM
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Hey AnthraAndromda,

How's my Magickal friend from Andromeda Galaxy these days? How is your wolf doing, I love dogs, they are beautiful creatures aren't they?

Have you ever heard of a recent abduction case of Stan Romanek? Since you are mathematically inclined more than I, maybe you should take a look at his calculations he's drawn up and tell us what they mean. MIT has even looked them over.

Look, I am going to have my opinion on this thread and if you disagree I can't help that, WE, you and I, have freedom of speech on ATS more than even America at large, wouldn't you agree?

I will say this to you, I find the subject of Ufos very facinating, have since I was young, but we have to look at things from all angles wouldn't you agree? It's not just a simple case of well there here and that's that, we have to figure the enigma out for or against.

And since you like wolves, I can't imagine you worship the devil and sacrifice animals, it just doesn't make sense. At least I hope you don't anyway. We have freedom of religion too, and what you worship has nothing to do with me. If you pray to the 'Good Lord' that's all that matters doesn't it. That and doing good unto others to the best of your ability.

This thread is in the Gray Area and it doesn't demand Proof of anything. Look it up. Although I have put plenty of vids here to try and tell a story that I feel is going on. It's not just Aliens , it's also New Age which includes the nonsense about channeling, which is just inviting bad things to happen anyway. My point, Our Governments may be planning these things. Yes, if there is disclosure, it should come out, but , if they are real , they will come out anyway wouldn't you think. No government or military could stop it.

Have peace in your soul AnthraAndromda, I can see your searching for answers, but just because I have an opinion that I feel these things to be demons well, some others agree too, especially in the Bible thumping group. Don't just assume I'm a religious nut, I'm not, most of them get on my nerves. I'm also searching for answers don't forget that. I have an open mind, I like reading New Age and Ufo Literature, it keeps me abreast of different angles in the world view and when compared to religious writings, well then I make connections for or against.

Let's You and Me agree to disagree.



posted on Apr, 27 2011 @ 10:16 AM
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Hey 547000,

How ya doin? I've tried to let this thread die, but it keeps being pulled back up. Oh well, I guess it'll go till it's over. Thanks for the defence. AnthraAndromda needs some attention, he likes being persnikedy!


It's alright though, we all need to talk about things anyway. So, let the game continue.



posted on Apr, 27 2011 @ 10:32 AM
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AnthraAndromda's reply to post by 547000




And, of course, the two rocks on their way won't be a problem either. So, I guess its okay if we let them hit you. Massive solar storms, won't be an issue either, you won't need any recovery efforts, nor possible deflection.


What two rocks AnthraAndromda? What solar storm?



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