I sat and watched the plane from my front garden sat in a chair as it was a warm day and my kids where playing out front.
It went across in front of my house left to right spraying as it went and then turned 160 ish degrees [estimate due to I cant measure ] and return
right to left so that its trail crossed over another trail made by another plane causing a lattice like effect.Now I know that you feel that I must be
mistaken or untruthful in what I am seeing but the loop effect of the trail [imagine a coat hanger goes down from the hook and then bends to make the
base ]means that it was made by the one plane.
As for saying to me that I wouldn't be watching the sky and follow the planes trails going over is kinda silly don't you think after all for me to
be posting on this subject don't you think I would be keeping an eye on what's going on.
Originally posted by djcarlosa reply to post by Essan
wow really is that what your seeing well maybe you are in a part of the UK that's in a bubble because here where I am there back spraying in front of
the sun and again the clouds are starting to form again seams that as soon as it clears up they start all over again.
I'm in Evesham, Worcestershire, and it's totally clear blue skies here. The Chemtrails must have dispersed all the lower level cloud we had earlier
Go chemtrails!
as the sun moves across the sky you can see the plane that spray changing there flight patterns so that the trails go across the sun face again
proving my point that these planes are not commercial I mean would you not agree that flight routes do not change throughout the day depending on
where the sun is do you really think I am that stupid to believe that is normal please.
I am within the forest of dean area and I have lived here in this house for the last 10 years and enjoy looking up into the sky so I can tell the
difference in the way planes move and the trails they leave and how they have changed in the last 2 months so you can sit there and call me a liar or
try and make me out to be stupid all you like or even get personnel if you wish but my eyes are open and you can't silence me.
You are studiously avoiding answering any questions as to your approximate location (just a city or shire, as has been asked several times, will
suffice. Don't need a street address, or GPS co-ordinates!).
Assuming, for the moment, had witnessed an actual very large turn-around....those CAN occur, on occasion, when a jet has a situation that requires a
diversion...either a mechanical problem, and will divert back to departure point or (if a dire emergency) to the "nearest suitable" airfield, as the
rules say. Also, can be medical emergencies too, those happen frequently. Passenger (or rarely, crewmember) needing urgent medical care,
life-threatening and time critical.
Lastly, are occasions when airplanes will be in holding patterns....usually, at lower altitudes, in the local airport areas, and below altitudes where
contrails will form. But, rarely, have been seen up above 25,000 feet or so...and that high, contrails can form readily.
Look, this isn't a sign of contrails (as it was in July, 2005 and holding patterns due to severe weather impacting the airports in the New York
area)...and there is no altitude info, but I know the region well, and can tell that at some of the fixes, where they are holding, they WERE at high
altitudes. Been there, done that, many times, during inclement weather delays. Starts in the last half of the following video, @ 1:45:
Here's a perspective of the ENTIRE globe, for all reading this thread to contemplate.
Again, a "24 hour" time-lapse. No need for more, of course, since it repeats virtually identically, with each 24-hour time period.
Since just ONE of the (many) silly claims made RE: "chem"-trails is that they are trying to "block the Sun"....take note of where
the airplanes are mostly concentrated.
Gee....wouldn't you think that "blocking the Sun" would be far, far more effective down near the Equator, where it's much more intense??
Ever considered that airplanes fly WHERE they fly, because it's where people (and cargo) want to go??
Do you not get it that web site you gave me where I can track planes in the air do not show the aircraft's I can see in the sky right now so why are
these planes not showing up on that site ?
If they where normal flights on normal flight plans then they should show up wouldn't you think
That site is showing what the other site is showing and I can see 7 planes in the sky when the sites are showing just one strange don't you think so
they are not commercial planes so that throws out the normal plane trails.
You posted @ 17:03 UTC (GMT). Have you gone to Summer Time yet, over there? (We just did, last night...we call it "Daylight Savings").
At that hour of the evening, how much daylight is still left?
Without my actually being there, to see, it is difficult to help point out the airplanes for you, and then identify them on the flight tracker. So, a
bit of an impasse......my experience would be useful, to clear this up for you easily, in person....alas.
Very little traffic over Scotland, at the moment. Ireland, only a small amount more.
edit on 13 March 2011 by weedwhacker because: (no reason given)
Oh, believe me, l do try to ignore him. lt's not easy. l used to know him by his avatar but recently he's been changing it more times than a hen
lays eggs. l see lt's happening again, When a chemtrail post appears The trollgates open and like a pack of hungry hounds they start tearing chunks
out of people till the last man/woman standing. Always the same ones talking the same rubbish. They do it so much, keep asking for proof. So much
proof has been given in other chemtrail threads, names of companies that do the spraying to pictures of planes that are doing it, Do they listen? No,
They just spout the same garbage over and over like a computer. One saying comes to mind. "Methinks thou doth protest too much". l notice they have
nearly killed yet another good thread, their master will be pleased. Probably get paid a bonus for the speed they killed this one. Peace starchild.
All you need to do is present evidence that what you see are not contrails. And I mean evidence, not uninformed opinions. Should be simple enough?
Although so far no one has ever managed it .......
(to avoid embarassment, find out first what contrails are )
Too true my friend , I'm sure they will not win though .
Humanity cannot be held back , progression will happen I'm sure .
Keep up the good work I enjoy reading your posts .
One things for sure is that many people will obstruct our path to truth but we know deep down something is not right
Truth does not fear investigation !
I happen to live in Phoenix where we have some of the clearest skies in the country and I've seen contrails turn to complete clouds covering the sky.
So, what started as clear, blue skies is suddenly awash in "clouds", criss-crossing in alignment with the originating contrail. If you really
believe that a normal contrail caused by "condensation" can cause that phenomena, then you are either blind or gullible.
Wow.
I'm looking at FlightRadar 24 and RadarVirtuel both....and according to them there are no flights going into or out of Pittsburgh.
Is something going on I don't know about?
So much proof has been given in other chemtrail threads, names of companies that do the spraying to pictures of planes that are doing
it....
Let me guess:
The Gulfstream 1? (A well-known RESEARCH airplane, that take SAMPLES, doesn't "spray").
The "chemical" tanks on the interior of a large jet? (B-777-300, or the other common one, an Airbus A-380...BOTH with normal passenger interiors
not installed, but all those tanks, and electronic monitoring equipment....BECAUSE, those were in flight testing. Please, by all means, find those
and I will show you the originals, and sources...).
The KC-135 with a "strange" boom attachment? Know it. Here, this it is:
Look "familiar"?? Yup, that is one used by many, many "chemmie" sites, as so-called "proof".
The round apparatus DID spray something....WATER! That was a one-off airplane, modified ONCE, and then later returned to "normal".....the sprayer
shot out water for airborne icing tests.
EACH and every one of the photographic so-called "proofs" by any and all "chem"-trail hoax sites can be shown to be a case of either accidental
MIS-information and MIS-identification, or (most likely, based on what I keep seeing) a core DISinformation campaign, in order to keep the
"chem"-trail hoax alive.
By preying on the gullibility and credulity of those who simple aren't trained in the types of disciplines to know better....in other words,
"laypeople"....