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Originally posted by TheWalkingFox
reply to post by EssenceOfSilence
Actually yes, it is out of the question. Neutrality is automatically support of the worse option. Saying "I have no stance on the notion of my workers and customers getting economically raped and stripped of their rights" is fundamentally the same as saying "I support the notion of my workers and customers getting economically raped and stripped of their rights"
Further, a boycott is a fundamental right of the consumer, for any reason that they might wish to boycott.
Welcome to America. if you dislike it, there's always Somalia.
Originally posted by EssenceOfSilence
Boycotts are fine. I boycott all sorts of businesses.
So if being neutral is supporting the worse option, then any neutral business is supporting the union extortionist by default.
Fix the extortion and get your collective bargaining back.
But since the union leaders are only concerned with having power over the elected officials, you will have a tough time fixing it, since that is the real problem.
Originally posted by WTFover
In my opinion, this is completely unprofessional behavior on the parts of the Wisconsin "Professional" Police Association and the "Professional" Fire Fighters. I support their ability to publicly endorse a particular candidate or political position, but this letter is simply extortion, akin to the tactics of Jesse Jackson and Al Sharpton.
Do they have the right to boycott? Absolutely. But, they should just do it, if they feel it is justified. Sending letters like this is completely uncalled for and unprofessional. And, whether intended or not, does give an impression like that expressed in the OP.
The website of the WPPA contains a list of what they seem to believe are the key components of the "proposed" bill. I'm not sure how many of them were actually included in the final legislation, but one of them particularly caught my attention.
Very, very interesting... They are concerned about employees being afforded the right to not be a member of a union and, apparently, support forced membership and basically theft of employees' money, in the form of "dues". And, they are willing to cause economic pain to anyone else who doesn't support it, as well.
One other thing that struck me about the "unions" announcing boycotts of businesses which supported Walker's campaign. One list I found consists of 125 specifically named businesses... How many of those employ "union" workers? By boycotting them, aren't they in fact endangering the very livelihoods of those fellow union members, as well as non-union employees? Doesn't make much sense to me. Sounds like, potentially, cutting off one's nose to spite his face.
Sorry guys and gals of the WPPA and PFFW, you've damaged your reputations on this one.
This is not a particularly hard thing to understand. Asking someone to support you by partaking in a form of nonviolent protest, with no penalty if they refuse, is kind of the opposite of force. I'm going to assume that you just didn't understand this, and got sold some snake oil on the subject. Hopefully the reality sinks in.
Originally posted by TKDRL
reply to post by byteshertz
Well as a small business owner, I would have to disagree. I am glad that I don't have to deal with the bullcrap like unions, that would make it more difficult than it is worth. All I have to worry about, is hiring someone that knows how to do the job, what color, religion, or whatever, means nothing to me. I could be a massocist, and hire someone that don't know crap, then train them for the next five years, but I don't want that. What is the real difference between union and nonunion. Union people are willing to pay money to gangsters.
Originally posted by TKDRL
reply to post by whaaa
Honestly, I have no idea what those letters stand for. As a small business, I have to pay for both liability insurance, and workmans comp for all our employees. Is that similar?