Quake moved Japan coast 8 feet; shifted Earth's axis, page 2


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reply posted on 12-3-2011 @ 10:03 AM by minnow329
physics. consider these points:

1. before we started screwing with the water systems on our planet, the earth was more or less balanced (at least more so than it is now)
2. When we displace water from the aquifer, build dams, displace oil (think about the volume and mass of the oil that was moved in the gulf disaster) we create patches of what are essentially light and heavier areas on the earth.
3. The moon's gravitational force used to have a balancing effect on the earths rotation, without the moon the earth (already slightly out of balance) would cease to rotate in the 23.5degree pattern that we have become used to.
4. Consider a basketball spinning on top of someone's finger. If i place pieces of gum around the ball at random points and shell out others, it will be impossible to keep the basketball balanced, the ball would start wobbling (like how we experience seasons) and it would fall
5. the earths core wants to rotate in 'predictable' pattern, when we start knocking the earth off balance it'll cause friction, because while the crust is wobbling the core will remain rotating in it's consistent pattern.

Conclusion: we have knocked the earth off of balance, the friction that is beginning to form between the core and the crust is going to cause earthquakes, tsunami's, whatever, hopefully, the moons gravitational influence on earth will remain strong enough to prevent the earth from gaining a bigger and bigger 'wobble' each year. If the earth does gain a bigger and bigger wobble, well, that's pretty much the end of us; seasons would be insane, earthquakes, probably volcanos. and if anything could fulfill Hapgood's pole-shift theory; its lack of balance.


reply posted on 12-3-2011 @ 10:09 AM by works4dhs
reply to post by MrWendal



imagine a ball. stick a wire through the middle of the ball. spin in.
this is like the earth on it's axis.
axis shift means the spin is slightly different.
this will have an inconsequential effect on sunlight/day length (I'm no expert).
as far as I know no other effects but even the slightest change on a planetary scale takes a humongous amount of energy/force.
think how much trouble it would be to move your house six inches. the view won't be much different but it would take a lot of work.
(unless you have alien anti-gravity technology the rest of us don't know about.)



reply posted on 12-3-2011 @ 10:09 AM by Laurauk
reply to post by CaDreamer



That has been confirmed on Sky news,Japan has shifted as a result of the Earthquake, they are reporting this as I type on here.


reply posted on 12-3-2011 @ 10:11 AM by SLAYER69
reply to post by CIGGSofWAR




Isn't that just splitting hairs?

Have we forgotten already ATS?
The last Chilean Earthquake also had an effect. Chile quake shifted Earth axis to shorten length of a day, says NASA . So now how will these two combined effect us years to come?

Stay tuned people.


reply posted on 12-3-2011 @ 10:17 AM by RadicalRebel
Originally posted by Laurauk
Is here any or does anyone have anymore information on the Rupture in the Earths crust which has occured as a resultof this Earthquake?

And is there anyone in ATS,whom have heard of this happening before, and what are the concequences of this happening and what effects is this going to have on the Planet as a whole.


There is a little more info on that, in another thread
HERE Where another member also provided more information on the axis shift that is different ffrom what is posted but seems to come from the same source, that being the INGV

Montreal Gazette

Initial results out of Italy's National Institute of Geophysics and Volcanology show that the 8.9-magnitude earthquake that rattled Japan Friday shifted the earth's rotation axis by about 25 centimetres.
INGV's report, which came hours after the devastating incident, is equivalent to "very, very tiny" changes that won't be seen for centuries, though, Canadian geologists say.


Going to the INGV's website i was still unable to find any of that information even with google translate, if anyone can find it there could you please post, i am also still looking for other sources but everyone i find is quoting this agency.


reply posted on 12-3-2011 @ 11:12 AM by boncho
reply to post by minnow329





4. Consider a basketball spinning on top of someone's finger. If i place pieces of gum around the ball at random points and shell out others, it will be impossible to keep the basketball balanced, the ball would start wobbling (like how we experience seasons) and it would fall


Except that the Earth is not made of polymer plastic so it is nothing like a basketball.

I don't understand how having 'gum on the basketball' provides us with seasons. (or did I read that wrong). We have season because the Earth has an axis, so it is tilted in relation to the Sun and the seasons depend on where the Earth is (which point of the Earth you are in) related to the yearly orbit.


reply posted on 12-3-2011 @ 12:40 PM by DontTreadOnMe
reply to post by CIGGSofWAR


Seems like it's a rather small shift
10 centimetres is equal to 10 / 2.54 = 3.94 inches.


wiki.answers.com...


reply posted on 12-3-2011 @ 12:50 PM by Stormdancer777
Originally posted by SLAYER69
reply to
post by CIGGSofWAR




Isn't that just splitting hairs?

Have we forgotten already ATS?
The last Chilean Earthquake also had an effect. Chile quake shifted Earth axis to shorten length of a day, says NASA . So now how will these two combined effect us years to come?

Stay tuned people.






"And except those days should be shortened, "


reply posted on 12-3-2011 @ 03:53 PM by Drala
reply to post by Misterlondon




Now thats outside of the box thinking.....i totally think that is more likey....the earth shift was expressed in the earthquake in Japan....the quake did not cause the earth....other way around is much more likey. Vibrations and energy levels are increasing and stressing the earth within the galaxy....its like us eating too much and we experience indigestion...the indigestion does not occur without eating too much....

IMHO of course....
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reply posted on 12-3-2011 @ 04:28 PM by Blaine91555
reply to post by minnow329



The Earth is not a solid and acts as a fluid. You have completely forgotten to factor that in. The impact you imply makes no sense.

The Crust has been being redistributed constantly at a far greater level than man could even approach with normal activities. For instance the Mississippi Delta. As the forces build up from the deposition of material on the Delta, those forces are counteracted by changes elsewhere over time, due to the dynamics of the Earths fluid nature. Geology 101 or perhaps H.S. Earth Science if your Teacher was any good and you paid attention at all.

That is why Japan moved by 8 feet as the forces are naturally compensated for. For every action a reaction until equilibrium is reached.

To suggest that earthquakes are a new phenomena caused by man is a level beyond where any critical thinking is being used. Yes you might have localized effects from some activities but on a global scale they would be meaningless. The Earth is actually becoming slowly less active over time and mans meager movement of materials pales in comparison to the redistribution by natural forces. Combine all redistribution by man in our history and it would not even equal a speck on the mountain range of materials moved monthly by forces like ice, water, wind and gravity.
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