What actually will happen if Japanese nuclear reactor Melts down?, page 1


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reply posted on 12-3-2011 @ 12:25 AM by silo13
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Please see the post I added here or read up on this page: China Syndrome.

Basically the meltdown will escape containment, melt through the floor and supposedly down through to the core of the earth - meaning - bye bye! But, that is only speculation riddled with huge gobs of fear mongering. Facts are the 'meltdown' would only go 'so far' and then be contained in the earth... Truly though it's better to read the info I posted in other threads and Wiki. I'd re-post here but it's against T&C.

peace


reply posted on 12-3-2011 @ 12:37 AM by space cadet
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Good question guessing, I am interested in knowing the same answer, however we don't really have anything to go by other than the educated speculation of those tending the devices, and a couple of incidents in the USA involving a meltdown, there was the 3 mile island incident and that plant was shut down for good, but no radiation was leaked out. The other was only a partial meltdown. There was the Chernobyl meltdown, originally killing only 28 people, but as the years have passed the true devastation has been on the land it destroyed and the people still dying and deformed from radiation exposure. Cancer runs rampant even though there is a 'zone of alienation', no one live in. Also that particular plant did not have a containment building like these do. So really there isn't a precedent for this, it will be a wait and watch.


reply posted on 12-3-2011 @ 12:42 AM by Newbomb Turk
Originally posted by guessing
I would love to hear from anyone with a real clue about what will happen as a likely outcome once the reactor(s) melt(s) down. As with other atomic disasters there is collateral damage. What makes Japan unique? Thanks in advance


May I suggest that you start here as I find it an excellent example of what's to come in the event of a meltdown and could probably give you more answers than I could:



The Chernobyl disaster was a nuclear accident that occurred on 26 April 1986, at the Chernobyl Nuclear Power Plant in Ukraine (then in the Ukrainian Soviet Socialist Republic, part of the Soviet Union). It is considered the worst nuclear power plant accident in history and is the only level 7 event on the International Nuclear Event Scale. The disaster occurred on 26 April 1986, at reactor number four at the Chernobyl plant, near the town of Pripyat in the Ukrainian Soviet Socialist Republic, during a systems test. A sudden power output surge took place, and when an attempt was made for emergency shutdown, a more extreme spike in power output occurred which led to a reactor vessel rupture and a series of explosions. This event exposed the graphite moderator components of the reactor to air and they ignited; the resulting fire sent a plume of radioactive fallout into the atmosphere and over an extensive geographical area, including Pripyat. The plume drifted over large parts of the western Soviet Union, Eastern Europe, Western Europe, and Northern Europe. Large areas in Ukraine, Belarus, and Russia had to be evacuated, with over 336,000 people resettled. According to official post-Soviet data,[1][2] about 60% of the fallout landed in Belarus.


en.wikipedia.org...


reply posted on 12-3-2011 @ 12:44 AM by WhizPhiz
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Basically the meltdown will escape containment, melt through the floor and supposedly down through to the core of the earth - meaning - bye bye!
Hmmm, well I don't know about that, I studied the mechanics of a nuclear reactor and radiation in high school physics classes, but I don't know much about the results of a meltdown. Wouldn't it be some what similar to the Chernobyl disaster? My guess is radiation would devastate the surrounding areas and the fallout would also be quite deadly within a reasonable radius. The hardest hit area would remain a waste land for decades.

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reply posted on 12-3-2011 @ 12:49 AM by Unity_99
www.godlikeproductions.com...

Trinity, Forum Admin for GLP, said this would be worse than nuclear fallout. I believe that this is the China Syndrome. That within 3-10 days, 3 is what most other places are saying, this would travel to the west coast of North America. What is being released as the rods melt has a half life of 30 years I believe.

It wouldn't be good.

There is a link I just read there: hotair.com...

This article is updated to say that mobile electrical units have arrived and they're working to restore the power. The elements in the rods have already been detected, so lets hope they will contain it.


reply posted on 12-3-2011 @ 01:17 AM by silo13
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Hmmm, well I don't know about that, I studied the mechanics of a nuclear reactor and radiation in high school physics classes, but I don't know much about the results of a meltdown.


Exactly, which is why I continued my post = (Basically the meltdown will escape containment, melt through the floor and supposedly down through to the core of the earth - meaning - bye bye!) But, that is only speculation riddled with huge gobs of fear mongering. Facts are the 'meltdown' would only go 'so far' and then be contained in the earth...

As for the 'fallout' and that damage? There's really no way of knowing until it happens. Too many factors to consider in to even speculate.

peace


reply posted on 12-3-2011 @ 01:23 AM by westcoast
Shiomi said that even if there was a meltdown, it wouldn't affect humans outside a six-mile (10-kilometer) radius.



MSNBC NEWSSo it's officiall:

Meltdown possible at Japan nuclear plant, official says



Emergencies declared at 5 reactors, leak detected at one; thousands evacuated
An official with Japan's nuclear safety commission says that a meltdown at a nuclear power plant affected by the country's massive earthquake is possible.
Ryohei Shiomi said Saturday that officials were checking whether a meltdown had taken place at the Fukushima Daiichi power plant, which had lost cooling ability in the aftermath of Friday's powerful earthquake.


If the fuel rods melted or are melting, a breach could develop in the nuclear reactor vessel and the question then becomes one of how strong the containment structure around the vessel is and whether it has been undermined by the earthquake, experts said.



reply posted on 12-3-2011 @ 02:23 AM by space cadet
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The damage will be significant, and deaths can and most likely will occur, but it is not like they are going to explode and kill off life as we know it. That really doesn't make it better, it remains a disaster of epic proportions, that being said unless you live in the vicinity of it, you are most likely safe.


reply posted on 12-3-2011 @ 05:20 AM by stumason
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Well, shows what I know!

Large explosion reported at Japanese Reactor - BBC

It is likely this is a steam explosion, rather than the core itself exploding, but it is still one hell of a bang. There is a video of it going "pop" on that BBC link.
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