EMERGENCY! report from TWITTER - Nuclear power plant - attempts to save plant STOPPED

Originally posted by ethancoop
reply to post by mirageofdeceit

 

The reactor did not explode. They vented vapor from the reactor to relieve pressure, this vapor went into the outer containment building (probably the wrong terminology for it but you get the point) & ignited blowing the outer shell apart. The inner structures that protect the core are intact. Stop with the chicken little routine.

This was no "venting"

It was a massive explosion.

No matter what you think it was, video does not lie... This was live raw video in japan, when it happened, pay close attention to the zoom in, close up replay..



Vented vapor eh?

reply to post by ethancoop


So the engineers that designed the building and thought of every possible disaster which could take place at a nuclear facility forgot to take into account that releasing pressure from the "boiler" due to a emergence wouldn't explode?

Sorry but I do not buy it. There keeping something from the public.

Also I have friends in Tokyo that I'm worried about and every other person that this could affect , If me showing my concern is "blown out of proportions" then I guess I am.

reply to post by ethancoop


The containment building has its own pressure regulation. It was working fine. This explosion was unexpected. Reason: reactor explosion.

Do not ignore the fact that prior to the explosion they lost cooling to the reactor (pump failure). The explosion occurred before they could restore cooling.

The primary containment is usually dry, air-filled and sealed. When they release pressure they release it from the pressure vessel into the primary, then from the primary to the secondary, then out to the world.

After the explosion, they flooded the primary containment and reactor with sea water. The only way this is possible is because the reactor is damaged, allowing the sea water into the reactor to cool the fuel.

The facts do not fit the story we are being fed.

BBC News is reporting that a third plant is now recording low level radiation sufficient to trigger alarms OUTSIDE the plant.

Unagowa (?). Is this upwind or downwind of Fukushima?

The worst that could happen is a fire. Like in Tschernobyl. Then microscopic partikels are ripped from the core material and lifted high of the gound. Then it is to be seen how good this shape flys. Havier particels will come down right awai, but like dust of a desert storm, or exhaust particeles of a heavy industries there are some that will be able to fly the whole world.
The explosion of Hydrogen seperate from the core might not be so bad. (less than fire) but it will set radiation free, and damage the infrastructure to keep the core cool.
Normaly you have a closed primary circuit of coolant water, under pressure. This water is super heated, and will become radio active poluted with time. As things shut down, they were unable to pump enough coolant arround under pressure. As the water is superheated the moment you release the pressure, the water evaporizes imedeatly. And the temperature in the core skyrockets. Now they fill the core with saltwater. That cools it of again, the problem is, just to fill the thing with water doesn't cut it. They have to pump in enough fresh cool seawater to keep it cool. hopefully little of that will rise as steam, as this water will have particles of the damaged core in it. But I can't imagine tey will be able to contain that water. That water will go back into the ocean and there will be a radio active plume in the Pacific ocean. Hello Alaska and Canada here it goes.. Better stop eating fish from the Pacific for the next years until that stuff is out of the food chain and into sediments.

voices.washingtonpost.com...
Could have nothing to do with the situation in Japan, but thought I would like to post it anyways

Originally posted by thedeadwalkk
voices.washingtonpost.com...
Could have nothing to do with the situation in Japan, but thought I would like to post it anyways

Its more like its 99.999999999 percent unlikely to be correlated to Japan....come on, even the hoax map predicted 3 days before "nuclear fallout" would hit the west coast. All this is going to do is whlp people into more of a frenzy. This is perpetuating the fear mongering. Especially so since it was a substance found in the facility as far as i interpret from the article....hardly radioactive fumes carried uber fast next day over 6000 miles. Its NOT related at all.

Sorry for the lack of links here but I thought I'd share what my Father has to say.

My Father works in a nuclear power station and has done for many years. His role (until recently due to stress) was regarding health and safety. He's very well up on any incident that has ever been, globally, as he's had to study them to ascertain successes in procedures, failures to improve on etc etc. He's had to study many documents regarding 9/11, to determine shortcomings in procedures etc when TSHTF. In other words, I trust what my Father has to say (he is the fountain of objective knowledge - frustrating when you just want an opinion not an objective multiple sided verbal essay :lol

He hasn't had any info officially yet, he's stepped down from the high stress role, so these are his thoughts based on the various news accounts he's searched through. I trust his instincts because he knows the lines that should be followed, and how to read between them regarding these kinds of situations.


Basically, he's of the opinion that it's little to worry about.
At the moment its only a level 4 on the INES scale. Unlike chern and 3 mile island they appear to be completely above board in reporting to the relevant international boards.

Out of 200 people who were checked for radiation upon exit, around 6 people had contaminents on their clothes.
The exclusion zone of 20km and the handing out of Iodine doesn't necessarily point towards an unmentioned leak. He tells me that it's written as standard practice should this kind of situation occur. They have successfully implemented precautionary steps, whether they end up being necessary or not.. they have done the right thing.

All things considered, he says that they're handling it the right way and it in no way means that a leak has occurred! Whether this turns out to be the case he said to wait and see. He is, however, looking from a procedural point of view. I want to point out that he doesn't claim to be right here. Only that it is his opinion.

Reactors should be designed to be absolutely foolproof (in an ideal world) - this is an extreme test and we can see how the reactors are standing up. Considering the circumstances, they've handled it pretty well.

Originally posted by storyboard
Sorry for the lack of links here but I thought I'd share what my Father has to say.

My Father works in a nuclear power station and has done for many years. His role (until recently due to stress) was regarding health and safety. He's very well up on any incident that has ever been, globally, as he's had to study them to ascertain successes in procedures, failures to improve on etc etc. He's had to study many documents regarding 9/11, to determine shortcomings in procedures etc when TSHTF. In other words, I trust what my Father has to say (he is the fountain of objective knowledge - frustrating when you just want an opinion not an objective multiple sided verbal essay :lol

He hasn't had any info officially yet, he's stepped down from the high stress role, so these are his thoughts based on the various news accounts he's searched through. I trust his instincts because he knows the lines that should be followed, and how to read between them regarding these kinds of situations.


Basically, he's of the opinion that it's little to worry about.
At the moment its only a level 4 on the INES scale. Unlike chern and 3 mile island they appear to be completely above board in reporting to the relevant international boards.

Out of 200 people who were checked for radiation upon exit, around 6 people had contaminents on their clothes.
The exclusion zone of 20km and the handing out of Iodine doesn't necessarily point towards an unmentioned leak. He tells me that it's written as standard practice should this kind of situation occur. They have successfully implemented precautionary steps, whether they end up being necessary or not.. they have done the right thing.

All things considered, he says that they're handling it the right way and it in no way means that a leak has occurred! Whether this turns out to be the case he said to wait and see. He is, however, looking from a procedural point of view. I want to point out that he doesn't claim to be right here. Only that it is his opinion.

Reactors should be designed to be absolutely foolproof (in an ideal world) - this is an extreme test and we can see how the reactors are standing up. Considering the circumstances, they've handled it pretty well.

I've heard SO much in the last couple days from impartial experts that it makes me feel a hell of a lot better about the situation. Unfortunately everyone who's already ordered their iodine pills seems unwilling to hear anything that doesn't involve disasterous amounts of radiation being carried over here.

Fear is the enemy of the mind.

10K dead in Japan amid fears of nuclear meltdowns.

SENDAI, Japan — The estimated death toll from Japan's disasters climbed past 10,000 Sunday as authorities raced to combat the threat of multiple nuclear reactor meltdowns and hundreds of thousands of people struggled to find food and water. The prime minister said it was the nation's worst crisis since World War II.

www.comcast.net...

Granted this is a report from Russia Today (RT) but this specialist from Ohio (I like how RT instead of primarily going to specialist in Russia chose someone from the USA to gain perspective...well let me not get started on that one as this is more important here)...but this guy named Harvey Waxman says that there are indeed SIX, yes 6 reactors under intense stress right now, and well here is the report:

"Emergency at Onagawa nuclear plant, radiation 700 times over normal" (title is copied directly from youtube video title)




Again I would like to add a link that I am primarily monitoring in the event this goes worst case scenario:

Welcome to RadiationNetwork.com, home of the National Radiation Map, depicting environmental radiation levels across the USA, updated in real time every 3 minutes. This is the first web site where the average citizen (or anyone in the world) can see what radiation levels are anywhere in the USA at any time (see Disclaimer below).

www.radiationnetwork.com...

Still praying for the best folks.

Originally posted by servumlibertatem
reply to post by bhornbuckle75

 

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I live on the east side of the rockies, in Canada, smack-bang under the jetstream..Due to the compression of moist air from the coast/Pacific ( I forget the name of the meterorlogical effect) all the moisture 'crashes' out on the Eastern slopes and southern Alberta..IMHO, any radio crap from this event is going to fall here, if it makes it over the Pacific (which i think is a coin toss)

From what I understand of nuclear events, a meltdown is worse than any airburst, and most groundbursts.
I don't trust government/msm info at this point, given TMI/Chernobyl 'disseminations'...and have no means of self-monitoring.

As such, I shall be taking basic radiological precaution for myself and be advising the same for those I care about...or even anyone else that would listen :/

What say you, sir? Would you do the same in my shoes?

Not sure....if I was in California, I would probably consider it. Thats where I understand is the most likely area for any radiation to end up....if it even gets that far, though. If you are right about your part of Canada being in the direct path, then I might then do it there as well. I certainly wouldn't go overboard though. I just don't think there is that much of a risk....and Yes I may have been giving a bad comparison at the beginning when I suggested the Nukes we dropped on Japan were worse. However its sort of hard to say. The worst damage comes from quick high doses, such as in a Nuke blast. Now a Meltdown may accumulate much more radiation in total..but its over a long period of time. If anything though, its sort of comparing apples to oranges....so Yeah prob not the best comparison I could have brought up really.
Thanks for the reply

Finally got round to getting myself some Potassium Iodide this evening. But i'm assuming the GPC grade being sold is still consumable. Being General Purpose Grade at 99% as advertised, compared to pharmacy form which is ACS grade at 95% pure means it's a purer industrialised form but that's all in terms of health impact?

reply to post by Newbomb Turk


Finally a video that answered some of my concerns.

I have Iodine on my drug store list, hope it is still
available later in the week.

Well just heard that radiation has been dected 60 miles off the coast. I sure hope it all goes towards the sea and gets caught up in a storm and rained away.....

www.abovetopsecret.com...

More related info:

"Global Jet Stream Forecast (March 13-21st) "

Originally posted by crazydaisy
reply to post by Newbomb Turk

 

Finally a video that answered some of my concerns.

I have Iodine on my drug store list, hope it is still
available later in the week.

A post that I came across that was in one of the many related videos that I felt needed passed on:

All day Fox News has broadcast "authorities are giving iodine tablets to people who live near nuclear sites". IODINE purifies water and is a medication. Potassium iodide is what they mean. PI floods the thyroid leaving no room for radiation.E-mails to Fox have gone unanswered. Drinking very much iodine will do nothing to radiation but can killl you!How do you reach Fox News! PI is no prescription and for sale on hundreds of Web sites + health food stores. CHEAP! EVERYONE should own a bottle!

Japanese Television is reporting an explosion in the number 3 reactor twenty minutes ago.
White smoke is rising out of Fukushima 1 power plant.
Said to be hydrogen explosion.

reply to post by Oklastatefan


If the reactor exploded then radiation counts would be completely off the charts & there would be no way of hiding that. This isn't the case.

Originally posted by Oklastatefan
Well just heard that radiation has been dected 60 miles off the coast. I sure hope it all goes towards the sea and gets caught up in a storm and rained away.....

www.abovetopsecret.com...

to be worried you need to know

A. HOW MUCH?

and

B. you have to realize that 60 miles off the cost is NOTHING compared to the 5, 400 something miles it would have to travel without decaying