But those of us paying attention to the world for the past 20 yrs, understood both saddam, and the UN.
We've seen countlesslies, deceptions, and waffling around with the iraq issue for well over a decade.
The fact that the UN had imposed sanctions and was demanding (on paper) compliance from saddam on his WMD programs means what?
THAT THE UN BELIEVED THERE WAS SOMETHING TO LOOK FOR THERE!!!
If there was no intel pointing the finger at saddam for WMD then the UN never would have agreed to put inspectors in in the first place, OR have put
up repeated sanctions against iraq.
For those that say, "ohh the USA could have allowed inspectors more time to conclude their investigations".....
so 5 years worth or searching thru saddams shuffle and hide games was not enough time? 6 months more would have solved the case eh? Mabey saddam
would have come around in a year?
Saddam was NEVER going to cooperate with the inspections if he had the wmd or not.
To those that say the intel was "cooked" or "slectevly interpreted",
please explain to me then how so many countries in the world thru the UN were willing to declare this as a problem for so many years?
Also, why isnt the fact that the USA has serial #'s for chem shells we sold to saddam that have never been accounted for disturb you MORE than if we
found the whole pile of them?
The fact that we knew he had these things, yet they are nowhere to be found implies all sorts of "where did they go" questions....and if your
sitting back waiting for a dictator to be generous and tell you, then your not concerned enough that these weapons might already be in your back yard.
In a few years when 6 of these shells get tossed into a city, and we find the fragments that show they used to be in saddams arsenal...
I hope "we told you so" is a comfort to the dead and their families.
lets hit a few specifics
Are American lives worth a little oil?
YES!!!! YES!!! YES!!! All the US lives lost "for oil" are worth it...ALL of our lives in the USA are DOMINATED by oil use and products. Try living
withous using them...go on try...good luck with that.
Remember the great depression? now multiply that by 3 and you might get an idea of what would happen if the USA was suddenly without oil....the
trickledown effect on the rest of the planet would be devastating as millions die from starving because noone can afford to mass produce/ship food to
the grocerie stores....as an american, our leaders weather domocrat or republican have sworn to protectAmerican interest first before others...that
means doing what it takes to make sure America gets to suck the last drop out of the planet if nessisary. Every citizen contributes to our dependance
on oil, so until you personally start to live differently and cut back petrolium product usage...dont bother to whine about fighting for the oil that
makes your minivan, suburban dwelling, microwave, couch potato lives comfy and possible. American lives are worth ALL the oil as ALL of America needs
this to survive.
Red october shares my sentimant but for different reasons here,
I am also sick and tired of the constant blaming on others.
Me too. So since the USA did provide WMD's to saddam and prop up his regime for so long, we contributed directly to the problem. We helped cause
this problem and therefore should accept the responsibillity of cleaning up our mess. Iraq is our mess. Iraq is a complex situation with many
ramifications, it has been that way for decades of our involvment, and it will remain so for decades more. We cant simply stop interactions with
Iraq, and have a responsibillity to ourselves to do what is in our national security interests reguardless of other nations concerns....are other
nations looking out for the USA? no theyre looking out for themselves(hello Germany, France and Russia....did you enjoy blocking the US in the UN so
that you could continue to ripp off the world thru the food for oil scam?) Again, this scam IS our problem as our "allies" were saying one thing to
us and doing another behind our backs....This doesnt concern you?
so stop blaming others and say gee, the USA does have some responsibillity in Iraq, and did long before Bush jr got to office.
Jakomo asks a presumptive question,
Wouldn't you think that if they were going to be putting American lives on the line, they would have carefully made 100% sure that there actually
Yes, Id think that this was not a light decision, but how do you suggest they make 100% sure there were WMD's, when we couldnt be 50% sure there
werent? I think thats the point about the whole UN inspection issue...exactly how long, thru know deceptions, do you look for things before either
reaching a conclusion or taking action on your info(or lack of intel) If we knew the answer to this question BEFORE the war, then we'd have a device
that could predict the future. I could use this device daily.
This is a crap question thats slanted to bash Bush.
This assumes that Bush knew EVERY DETAIL of life in Iraq....how could they? decisions are made daily that affect peoples lives, often times without
100% information, and sometimes based only on a hunch. Thats life. There is no way for any government to know everything and make every decision
"correctly". There are plenty of historical evets where the "known" was shown later on to not be the way it was percieved at the time. (the
world is flat, man will never fly, fire was alive...etc etc.) So what? NOONE can predict the future.
The only people that were decieved are the ones that think that Iraq is meaningless to American national interests.