It's Official: Wisconsin Gov. Walker Signs Bill Taking Away Public Worker Collective Bargaining Rig, page 4
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reply posted on 13-3-2011 @ 10:10 PM by whaaa
reply to post by OhZone


With my union dues I get health insurance, retirement, compensation if hurt on the job, none of which the production companies provide.

And I'm a dumb worker?

What would you do?

A clear case of letting your ideology get in the way of your common sense.

Proud member of AFTRA/SAG here.

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reply posted on 14-3-2011 @ 10:16 AM by dr_strangecraft
reply to post by whaaa


It's cool that you have lots of excellent benefits.

Can you imagine what non-union workers (the other 93% of us) think about state employees demanding their "rights" to excellent benefits in an industry (government, in this case) that is losing big money?

I am all for everyone (union or not) getting excellent benefits when their employer is functioning well. But when the employer is losing money, it is logical to start cutting costs, including employee benefits. What has made this such a lightning rod for debate is partly the tone of the unions, which assume that the state CANNOT touch benefits, that "THEIR" interests must never be affected by financial limitations the rest of us face.


reply posted on 14-3-2011 @ 10:38 AM by whaaa
reply to post by dr_strangecraft


Usually dr_ you are better researched than this.

The union agreed to pay and benefit cuts.

blogs.forbes.com...

www.usnews.com...

american-idle.newsvine.com... ctive-bargaining-rights

This is about ending collective bargining. In essence taking away freedoms from the working man and giving more power to the state.

I thought all you Limbaugh Conservatives were against big government and gov. control over the citizens.

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reply posted on 14-3-2011 @ 10:48 AM by HaveAnotherOne
reply to post by whaaa


There is no right to bargain for more of the taxpayers money.

Not a single freedom was lost.


reply posted on 14-3-2011 @ 11:00 AM by whaaa
Originally posted by HaveAnotherOne
reply to post by whaaa


There is no right to bargain for more of the taxpayers money.

Not a single freedom was lost.


See the hyprocracy here?

When subsidies, tax benefits, and preferential treatment is given to corporations even though they are showing record profits; It's called free enterprise and No complaints from conservatives.

Welfare for the most wealthy. Who do you think pays for these subsidies?

www.chattanoogan.com...
blog.uncommonwisdomdaily.com...

But give the American working man the same deal and it's called socialism and communism.

People aren't stupid and they see this for what it is; a power grab by the state over the common working man. The blow back from this will affect Walker and the GOP in coming elections.

The libs were looking for a rallying focus and Walker handed it to them.

www.newsmax.com...


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reply posted on 14-3-2011 @ 11:11 AM by HaveAnotherOne
reply to post by whaaa


Who said anything about supporting subsidies?

If you want a hypocrite, you better look elsewhere. Not going to find hypocrisy in any of my posts.


reply posted on 22-5-2011 @ 07:30 PM by saturnsrings
reply to post by Sestias
Of course they think 75K is a lot of money. They voted for that clown that complained that he has to raise 6 kids on only 175 or so thousand.

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reply posted on 22-5-2011 @ 07:43 PM by saturnsrings
reply to post by dr_strangecraft
Been living under a rock lately? Seems that corporations are making record profits, and sitting on a couple trillion or so dollars, all the while, not hiring.

Edit: so much for Obama and the liberals being anti-business.

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reply posted on 22-5-2011 @ 07:44 PM by saturnsrings
reply to post by whaaa

They are.................when it suits them.

second.


reply posted on 22-5-2011 @ 07:51 PM by redrose123
reply to post by Whereweheaded


You will be reminded of that when you and everyone you know loses what rights that was left in the work place is gone. If you truly do not know what Unions have done for asll working people in this country then you need to study history. The middle class workers have been on a down slope in this country ever since the 1970's. You might want working conditions to return to prior Union and laws that were passed due to them. But I certainly do not relish reliving the past. Things are goiung to he%% bad enough here already.



reply posted on 26-5-2011 @ 10:32 PM by Oaktree
reply to post by Aggie Man


Interesting you bring this up.

Let me give you a bit of background on her.
First, she is a Circuit Court judge, presiding over civil matters, meaning, the majority of her day she listens to speeders, red light runners, parents of truant students, etc.

But wait, there's more than that to her.

Here's a snippet form a talk she gave, entitled:
“Judicial Decision Making: Activism or Accountability?”
She will begin with a brief overview of what a circuit court judge does, and then discuss decision making and the values associated with it--including Jewish values. Temple Beth El and Jewish Social Services of Madison affectionately host and co-sponsor this event. A light brunch follows the lecture.

Jewish Madison.org

But, the best for last.

Judge Maryann Sumi's son, is a political operative who also happens to be a former lead field manager with the AFL-CIO and data manager for the SEIU State Council.

Jacob “Jake” Sinderbrand runs a company called Left Field Strategies, a firm that works on political campaigns.
From his bio on his company's website:
A lifelong political activist, Jake Sinderbrand got his start as a volunteer doorknocker, and has years of experience training both volunteers and canvassing staff. Jake graduated from Macalester College cum laude with a degree in political science, specializing in American political structures. He has developed his professional political experience serving as a lead field manager with the AFL-CIO and as data manager for the SEIU State Council through the 2008 election cycle. Jake’s expertise in canvass planning and turf strategy helped these organizations to have among the most successful field operations in Minnesota.


Oddly, his website has disappeared, but screenshots remain.
Link to screenshot

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