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It's Official: Wisconsin Gov. Walker Signs Bill Taking Away Public Worker Collective Bargaining Rig

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posted on Mar, 11 2011 @ 01:23 PM
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It's Official: Wisconsin Gov. Walker Signs Bill Taking Away Public Worker Collective Bargaining Rights


[URL=http://www.zerohedge.com/article/its-official-wisconsin-gov-walker-signs-bill-taking-away-public-worker-collective-bargaining]www.zerohedge.com[/ URL]

While the signature of Governor Walker to the Bill that had passed both the Senate and the Assembly, was inevitable, it is now also history. The first shot across the bow at America's unions is now official. What happens in Wisconsin next is anyone's guess. Probably nothing much. And any union member who may consider protesting today should carefully evaluate whether they should be doing so at the Senate building or on Wall Street/D.C. where the root of America's insolvency, and all of its financial problems stems from.
(visit the link for the full news article)


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posted on Mar, 11 2011 @ 01:23 PM
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Well this is it... will people do a massive strike or will it be business as usual within weeks?

We shall see. This is still a big blow to unions... the only question is... which state is next... Because you know it's gonna come to other states, similar legislation have been introduced in lots of states.

The whole discussion is quite useless since all the pensions promised by the government and the unions, in the end, won't be able to be paid.

Indeed, the link doesn't look like it's working...

Here Working link

[url=http://www.zerohedge.com/article/its-official-wisconsin-gov-walker-signs-bill-taking-away-public-worker-collective-bargaining]www.zerohedge.com[/ url]
(visit the link for the full news article)
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posted on Mar, 11 2011 @ 01:26 PM
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let them strike.....all that happened with this legislation is the eradication of a known criminal organization that has done nothing but lie, cheat and extort. Good riddens~



posted on Mar, 11 2011 @ 01:30 PM
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There is no right to bargain for more of the taxpayers money.

Where the hell do you people come up with this crap? Dailykos?



posted on Mar, 11 2011 @ 01:31 PM
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The former union workers will work just like the rest of us. You get judged and paid by your actions, not by some union bylaws. If you're an exceptional worker you'll have no issues. If you're a slacker who hides behind the unions then you'll be unemployed until you learn to work.



posted on Mar, 11 2011 @ 01:33 PM
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Your link doesnt work Did this just become official today, during the quakes and tsunamis? If so, with possibly more things happening and even helped along, are they taking care of business fast, pushing through things while everyone is distracted?



posted on Mar, 11 2011 @ 01:44 PM
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This is a violation of the first amendment:


Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances.



posted on Mar, 11 2011 @ 01:46 PM
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Um..no they did assemble? But where in the Constitution does it say Union members are entitled to more of the tax payers dollars?


Hint: re-read the Constitution before copy and pasting~



posted on Mar, 11 2011 @ 01:49 PM
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Lol not quite there genius.

Not getting paid enough or an extra week of vacation time isnt a grievance covered by the 1st Amendment.

A small amount of knowledge would do you a world of good when it comes to the Constitution. Just because you can read it doesnt mean you know it.



posted on Mar, 11 2011 @ 02:14 PM
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Oh? Are you familiar with NAACP v. Alabama? In this 1958 case, the Supreme Court ruled that Freedom of Association (the right of individuals to come together in common interest) is an integral part of the 1st Amendment. Collective bargaining is the clearest, most legitimate form of the idea of the Freedom of Association.

Wisconsin, backed by corporate powerhouses like the Koch brothers, is the first step in a longer fight against the very concept of unions in general.

Don't want unions? Have fun watching the economy dip further. Union workers make more than the average workers, enabling them with more purchasing power. Lets see what happens when consumers don't consume as much. It would be prudent to note than union wages have a direct correlation with the wages of non-union wages - a rise in union wages leads to a rise in non-union wages. Union wages decline, non-union wages decline.

Unions created the middle class. Now they're trying to take it away.



posted on Mar, 11 2011 @ 05:03 PM
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What a surprise. Another union-bashing thread.

Taxpayers are not funding the pensions of the public sector workers. Their pensions are part of their salaries which are set aside; as a result they take home less.

You probably don't have kids, but if you do, how would you like them to be educated by a person who gets $1.00 an hour? You get what you pay for.

If the big corporations, so loved by the right, get their way we'll ALL be getting the same wages they get in China.

Busting the unions is just the first salvo in busting the entire middle class, which by the way has been declining steeply for the last thirty years.

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posted on Mar, 11 2011 @ 05:11 PM
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Originally posted by Sestias
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Taxpayers are not funding the pensions of the public sector workers. Their pensions are part of their salaries which are set aside; as a result they take home less.



Lol uh, where do public employees salaries come from?

See what I did there?



posted on Mar, 11 2011 @ 05:13 PM
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I totally agree with you on this.

The one little point where I disagree is that, in fact, the unionized public workers in Wisconsin actually make less than their counterparts in the private sector.

We so want our cops and nurses and schoolteachers to be paid slave wages, right? That'll really improve the quality of life for all of us. (note: sarcasm)



posted on Mar, 11 2011 @ 05:16 PM
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Lol where are you getting this garbage from?

The annual compensation package for WI teachers is $75,000 annually.

In MPS (milwaukee public schools), it's over 100k.

That is not opinion. That is fact.



posted on Mar, 11 2011 @ 05:26 PM
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The problem with a general strike is that the governor of Wisconsin would probably do what Reagan did to the air traffic controllers in the 80's. He fired them and replaced them with non-union labor that wouldn't complain about being worked to exhaustion and thus making serious mistakes. Hey, it probably won't be your plane, right?

Walker would love any excuse to fire the public sector workers and replace them with private contractors. He's already hired the former Blackwater (now called Xe I think) notorious for drinking shots of vodka from each other's a*** during working hours and killing civilians in Iraq.

We can't leave any sector of the workforce free from the whims and control of big corporations, now can we? (again, sarcasm)



posted on Mar, 11 2011 @ 05:31 PM
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Not all teachers make 75k a year, a lot has to do with their seniority.

And do you really think 75k is that much to support a whole family? I mean, all they do is have the future of the next generation of Americans in their hands, right? Who wants to pay for that, right?
(again, sarcasm alert)



posted on Mar, 11 2011 @ 05:37 PM
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The AVERAGE compensation package for ALL Wisconsin teachers is 75k and change.

$75,000 is more than enough to support the average family if they are responsible. Especially here in WI, where the cost of living is pretty cheap.



posted on Mar, 11 2011 @ 07:26 PM
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We so want our cops and nurses and schoolteachers to be paid slave wages, right? That'll really improve the quality of life for all of us. (note: sarcasm)


I know!

I don't understand this mindset that public sector workers are illegitimate compared to private sector employees.

Want to save money on gas? Well, good thing there is public transit.
Someone breaking into your house? Hey, you could call the publicly funded police.
Is your house on fire? Publicly funded fire fighters.
Need to do research for a college thesis, or just want a new book to read? Publicly funded libraries.

The public sector creates your bridges and roads. They deliver your mail. They teach many of your children.

I'm not a statist by any means, nor am I a large advocate of markets. But look at it pragmatically. The public sector provides the infrastructure for private sector to flourish, and creates the necessary safety net for it to continue.

Why wouldn't these people be entitled to collective bargaining, just like the workers of any other industry?
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posted on Mar, 11 2011 @ 09:39 PM
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Now the lawyers are going to get involved, challenge this law, tie it up in the courts all the way to the supreme court
where it will be struck down as unconstitutional, Gov. Walker will be voted out of office, the democrats will take over and the Unions will come back stronger than ever.

Walker should have compromised when he had the chance. Politically he's toast!

Everyone saw this wasn't about saving money or giving the taxpayers a break; it was payback to the Koch bros.



posted on Mar, 11 2011 @ 09:46 PM
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Scott Walker for President. The way he stood up to those Union Thugs was awe-inspiring!



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