Originally posted by Turq1
Hung from a nail? Wouldn't the nail break/bend with full human weight on it? I find it a bit odd as well that he didn't take the thing around his neck off until he was down. I think any person would have done that first, and probably jump down the hole, not just climb down. Unless it was twisted or something were he couldn't take it off, but it looked like he was able to.
I typically dismiss 'orbs', and laugh at the idiots who claim a moth flying by is a 'spirit'. BUT...those tiny lights that were flying around Jackie were NOT insects, dust or reflections. They really seemed to have an intelligence behind them.
Originally posted by Slinki
reply to post by Rising Against
Excellent thread! I remember seeing a special on this case some time ago, and being completely blown away by the events that occurred there. Especially the blood plasma seeping from the walls... wow!
Then there were the reports of some form of ectoplasmic ooze that seemed to drip down from various places in the home. While the team investigated, the ooze manifested itself. Barry Conrad quickly managed to catch that on tape. The ooze was studied and taken to a forensics lab at UCLA. The results were that it was human blood plasma with high levels of iodine and copper. It’s important to note that the team reported smelling like rust or oxidation when entering the home. There was also the overwhelming stench of decomposing matter, which is a good indicator of a haunting.
Originally posted by Rising Against
reply to post by CholmondleyWarner
I understand that you don't agree with me but that's what makes this subject interesting. We all, those who study the subject seriously at least, agree that the polt is a real phenomenon but we can debate, without resorting to insults as some do, on what causes them and why they happen to some types of families more than others...
"If we all agreed with one another about everything, what a boring world we would live in..."
Agreed it does make it interesting ( ) but I'm a little confused by what you said here to be perfectly honest. You said previously you don't feel they are "spirits of the dead" (citing your first reply) but you are now saying here that "the polt is a real phenomenon." So, bearing this in mind, I have to ask the question, what do you personally feel they are? Since they aren't a spiritual phenomenon but they are certainly real..
Also, don't you agree, with such experiments like the Philip Aylesford experiment" that I previously mentioned, Poltergeist activity could at the very least be exasperated simply through acknowledging It's own existence or maybe simply focusing on it more in any way what so ever?
...Just a thought I had is all.
They are fascinating things to study but I think the only way to discover what we're dealing with is to debate the subject and swap stories and personal experiences without resulting to insults as some tend to do.
i think we have a genuine haunting on our hands here, personally like it was stated i dont believe any man who inflict serve pain on themselves that could result in death just to help portray a prank.
this is a place im putting on a list that i would like to investigate one day
Originally posted by Coach Knight
Whether this is a genuine case or fraudulent...my kudos to the OP for such a thoughtful and well-done initial post. This is a fine example of what a new thread should be like. S&F
Didnt want to derail the thread,but these storys hit home for me.I very much believe in them.