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posted on Jun, 27 2011 @ 08:08 PM
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Tepco Faces Protests at Shareholder Meeting




Tokyo Electric Power Co. faces its shareholders today for the first time since the March 11 earthquake and tsunami caused meltdowns at its Fukushima Dai- Ichi plant, wiping about $36 billion off its market value.
Anti-nuclear shareholders are encouraged to gather in the park surrounding the Prince Park Tower Hotel, where the meeting is being held, according a protester website. About 30 protestors were near the hotel, holding banners saying "nuclear power sayonara.’’ Police officers are stationed on all corners of the five-way Akabanebashi intersection near the hotel.

The catastrophe, the worst nuclear accident in 25 years, displaced 50,000 households after radiation leaked into the air, soil and sea. Today, shareholders in Tepco, as the utility is known, vote on whether the company continues with nuclear power and the future of 17 board members.

Six police buses and other official vehicles surround the venue, located in Shiba Park in the shadows of Tokyo Tower, which is still bent at the tip from the March 11 earthquake that led to the troubles now facing Tepco.
Staff from the utility are stationed on the pavements around the hotel, holding sign with directions to the venue. Journalists almost outnumber the police as they sought interviews with arriving shareholders, in one area being herded by the officials to keep the pavements clear.



Tepco, which has plunged 85 percent since the earthquake, has prepared seats for 5,600 shareholders at the central Tokyo hotel, said Tetsuya Terasawa, a spokesman. The meeting room was almost full an hour before the 10 a.m. start.

Last year, the utility had a record attendance of 3,342 investors, he said. The longest shareholders’ meeting was in 1999, which lasted 3 hours and 42 minutes, according to Tepco.

“Shareholder interest has increased after the accident, so we prepared more seats,” Terasawa said. “It will depend on our shareholders how long the meeting will last.”

The company had 933,031 shareholders as of March 31.

Tepco shares traded 1.9 percent lower at 310 yen at 9:12 a.m. in Tokyo. Moody Investor Services cut the utility’s credit rating to junk on June 30, following Standard & Poor’s Ratings Services decision to drop it to below-investment grade on May 30. Japanese credit rating companies maintain investment-grade evaluations.


More at Bloomberg




posted on Jun, 27 2011 @ 10:19 PM
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Originally posted by zorgon
Hey maybe we can buy a few shares at the reduced rate...

then WE would be share holders

Thats not a bad idea for someone to do, or group. Get a voice in their direction at a cheap price. As long as they dont expect much return on the investment though. Or any.



posted on Jun, 27 2011 @ 10:31 PM
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Hello honorable thread bearers, I have been in and out and am no where near caught up ( again ), but two odd things happened almost simultaneously, and the result, as is often the case, is serendipitous:

First A friend asked asked me to check out the caltech assessment of fukushima daiichi (as I had not looked it over ) and while I was reading through it taking notes and casting it's lines across the internet , a local restaurant owner that makes about the best salsa in the world(highly important to me), called to ask me it I could tell her if her clothes washer was worth saving or not

( I am not a appliance repair man but get a lot of odd calls like this, it's a reputation with problems thing . Among the things that a useful man learns is never let people know you can cook, repair computers , fix cars , or own a pick-up truck)

Turns out her washer ( a $1200 whirlpool duet job ) was not worth saving after only two years(constant hot water use ). A little research revealed the problem was SEVERE design 'flaw' ( you'll see why it's hard to believe that it was a flaw )

Here is an excellent video regarding the nature of the problem( on second though it may not be excellent but the ideas in it are, hehe, his ideas are spot on , he is a bit lugubrious and breathless, I like the attention to detail though):





It's called Galvanic Corrosion, any engineer would be aware that aluminum will corrode when attached to stainless steel in the presence of water.


Now quite a while back on this thread someone posted an excellent link to stainless steel corrosion and life span , and it started my thinking about physical mechanisms for aerosolization , lso the physical and chemical methods of particalized uranium and plutonium getting into solution ( certainly now a huge problem that we know containment can and has been breached , and cooling of meltdowns is in practice admittedly ), but..

I had forgotten the extensiveness of our old friends Seebeck and Peltier and how the reversibility of these effects related to the chemical and physical properties of Galvanic Corrosion

It powdered that aluminum from the washer , but more importantly the aluminum acted as the anode ( anodic) ( there will not be a quiz on this so
.What it boils down to is ; all dissimilar metals will transport from the anodic metal towards the cathodic metal into the solution, over time , this is especially important in SALTWATER, but it happens quite well in regular water too ( ask any plumber about dia-electric unions) ...

The reason the aluminum dissolved in the washer is because it has an elctrochemical tendency to do this around stainless steel in water and it had a relatively smaller SURFACE AREA than the stainless steel.

From the


Army Missile Command Report RS-TR-67-11, "Practical Galvanic Series."

on


the galvanic series of metals in sea water


Lee Erb posted the list of the most to least reactive anodic (active transport in seawater) metals

here are the top 25 (of 92 listed), most reactive at the top :

1.Magnesium
2.Mg alloy AZ-31B
3.Mg alloy HK-31A
4.Zinc (hot-dip, die cast, or plated)
5.Beryllium (hot pressed)
6.Al 7072 clad on 7075
7.Al 2014-T3
8.Al 1160-H14
9.Al 7079-T6
10.Cadmium (plated)
11.Uranium
12.Al 218 (die cast)
13.Al 5052-0
14.Al 5052-H12
15.Al 5456-0, H353
16.Al 5052-H32
17.Al 1100-0
18.Al 3003-H25
19.Al 6061-T6
20.Al A360 (die cast)
21.Al 7075-T6
22.Al 6061-0
23.Indium
24.Al 2014-0
25.Al 2024-T4

Nestled right in the the various aluminum alloy near the top at number eleven is ...Uranium...

Now from the same report to keep Galvanic transport ( particularization and transport in solution) to a minimum the FIRST consideration is:


To avoid corrosion, avoid a small anodic area relative to the cathodic area.

translation, the size of the stainless steel should be relatively close to the size of the dissolve-able material , if it is larger the difference between the sizes greatly increase the galvanic transport in relation to the difference .

At Fukushima we have several six story tall pieces of stainless steel (cathdoic) that may be anywhere from 1/4 to 1/2 full of water contaminated by various thing including TONS of salt, and unknown masses of uranium (anodic) mostly or totally under water in that is in contact with the stainless steel . since the mass of the uranium can't be much bigger than a couple of fire trucks , then ...

we have a cathodic material (stainless steel) that simply dwarfs ( a six story building compared to a fire truck) the anodic materials (uranium ...and...), in ionized ( by salt or radiation ) water under fairly high temperatures. Or , as Bullwinkle would say: a lot of uranium being dissolved into solution very rapidly through galvanic transport.

The practical upshot is that the chances for re-cricality in the fluids or filtration is incredibility high, the plan they have for "cooling" will not work : the galvanic transport in the whole system is going to constantly be destroying seals , and equipment , hence leaking and malfunctions will be a daily routine ,

and criticalities , because the supply of Uranium in the water is going to be nearly constant and very high, not to mention that the filtration systems will be concentrating lethal levels of radioactive material .

This also means that the structural weakening of the buildings and pools is going to progress much faster than calculations not including galvanic currents/transport would suggest (implying that they do not have months ad nauseum to "solve" the problem )

For example take the pools; if any of the rods have been damaged so that the uranium is directly exposed to the water then the galvanic transport can leeched the uranium out while leaving most of the outer rod assembly structures in tact (thus pools or rod assemblies might look fine on the surface but just like rotting teeth be missing most of their substance)

And as another thought it means those water into the ocean releases after the SALT water cooling, were way dirty hot with uranium and other ...iums, and also probably why they had to get rid of them ...distance and dispersion of the concentrated radiation the things were putting off...how many tests for uranium in that sea water were done ?

now since fate is an interesting companion at all times I just need to see if anywhere someone has done their homework on plutonium and galvanic currents , perhaps cal tech ;-)
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posted on Jun, 27 2011 @ 10:35 PM
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This is what an informed agency concerned about public health might say about the weather hitting the US.

There is a strong low pressure system approaching the westcoast of the United States. This system may contain emissions from Fukushima, as recent wind patterns over the last four days have been towards the US at both low and high elevations. It is best to avoid contact with this rain as much as is possible. Wear raingear and shoes that can be left outside the main living quarters, wash these off before using them again, and do not let children play in the puddles. Thank you, your friends at the EPA.

It doesnt cause people to panic. It causes people to think how they can avoid exposure as much as possible. The human race is a hellova lot smarter than TPTB think. And the fuse is lit.



posted on Jun, 27 2011 @ 10:47 PM
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Originally posted by Silverlok
The practical upshot is that the chances for re-cricality in the fluids or filtration is incredibility high,
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This also means that the structural weakening of the buildings and pools is going to progress much faster than calculations not including galvanic currents/transport would suggest


Not good. At all. Just goes to show how hit and miss this whole thing has been since day one. They spend more time correcting what they did previously than moving forward.



posted on Jun, 27 2011 @ 10:51 PM
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Originally posted by SFA437
reply to post by jadedANDcynical
 

(...)
We might have our very own Fukushima as there is currently 8 feet of water surrounding the plant and another 4-6 expected if the dam goes, especially with the consistent torrential rains in the area and upstream.

That level of water will inundate the pumps and generators at this facility. Barring the dam failure, there is no way to resupply the plant with the diesel needed to keep the generators running by land. Not sure where the tanks are right now but I sure as hell they thought to put them well above ground so that they can be refueled by watercraft.
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Greetings:

Do you mean these tanks?

Many containers of fuel to power pumps were washed away after breach at Ft. Calhoun nuke plant


Event Number: 46989
Facility: FORT CALHOUN
Event Date: 06/26/2011
Event Time: 10:45 [CDT]

Event Text
OFFSITE NOTIFICATION DUE TO PETROLEUM RELEASE TO THE MISSOURI RIVER

“At approximately 0125 CDT, the AquaDam providing enhanced flood protection for Fort Calhoun Station Unit 1 failed. This resulted in [color=limegreen]approximately 100 gallons of petroleum being released into the river after a protective barrier was breached and many fuel containers were washed out to the river. The fuel/oil containers were staged around the facility to supply fuel for pumps which remove water within the flood containment barriers. The spill was reported to the State of Nebraska at 10:45 AM CDT on 6/26/2011.

What were these fuel containers that only 100 gallons were contained in "many?"

Were they those red plastic 5-gallon containers and were just sitting next to the pumps when the water came in?

How much water does it take to float one of these puppies over the "containment barrier" into the river? (Let's see... gas about 6.1 lbs/gal x 5 = about 30.5 lbs to float away - about 35 lbs if it was 5 gallons of diesel.)

What happened to "being prepared for any eventuality?"

17 June 2011
‘Event’ reported at Ft. Calhoun nuke plant: 'Potential flooding issue in the Intake Structure'
— “There is one penetration of concern” that could impact water pumps


Operations identified a potential flooding issue in the Intake Structure 1007 ft. 6 in. level. The area of concern is a the hole in the floor at the 1007 ft. 6 in. level where the relief valve from FP-1A discharge pipe goes through the raw pump bay and discharges into the intake cell. There is one penetration of concern. [color=limegreen]Flooding through this penetration could have impacted the ability of the station’s Raw Water (RW) pumps to perform their design accident mitigation functions.

Efforts are in progress to seal the penetration.(...)

Again with the cooling pumps... and that was ten (10) days ago.

16 June 2011
Licensee Event Report 2011-003, Revision 1, for the Fort Calhoun Station, NRC, May 16, 2011


As a result of a Nuclear Regulatory Commission (NRC) inspection conducted from January 1 to June 21, 2010, the NRC determined that Fort Calhoun Station (FCS) did not have adequate procedures to protect the intake structure and auxiliary building against external flooding events.
[...]
As a result of the penetrations not being sealed, the intake structure was vulnerable to water inflow during an extreme flooding event. This [color=limegreen]inflow had the potential to affect the operability of both trains of safety related raw water pumps (ultimate heat sink).


On February 4, 2011, an eight (8) hour report was made under 10 CFR 50.72 (b)(3)(v)(D) to the NRC Headquarters Operation Office (HOO) at 1717 CST (Event Number (EN) 46594). [color=limegreen]The report should have been made on September 9, 2009.

Only five (5) months later. It almost seem as though this facility is being run by the inmates - or there is a complete lack of pride in work across the board - nobody gives a damn and the peeps are there only to get a paycheck. That lackluster attitude might work in a car wash, but this is a nuclear facility!

An interesting document:


NRC FORM 366A (10-2010)

During identification and evaluation of flood barriers, unsealed through-wall penetrations in the outside wall of the intake, auxiliary and chemistry and radiation protection buildings were identified that are below the licensing basis flood elevation.

A summary of the root causes included:

1) a weak procedure revision process;

2) insufficient oversight of work activities associated with external flood matters;

3) ineffective identification, evaluation and resolution of performance deficiencies related to external flooding;

4) and "safe as is” mindsets relative to external flooding events.


(...)
SAFETY SIGNIFICANCE

The [color=limegreen]Fort Calhoun Station is required to be protected from flooding within the station’s licensing basis. The safety-related equipment required to mitigate the consequences of an accident were affected by these findings.

The openings could have jeopardized the ability of the safety-related equipment to perform their design basis function during an accident. Other methods of removing decay heat and mitigating the consequences of a flooding event were available.

Interesting... so the NRC indicates that there are other methods of removing decay heat.

Just what are these "other methods" that do not involve pumps powered by electricity?

And why are they not being used in Fukushima in any way?

Other headlines to peruse, if one so chooses:

27 June 2011

100% chance of reactor core damage if floodwaters went above 1010 ft. at Ft. Calhoun nuke plant, NRC said in 2010
— River now around 1,007 ft. and expected to rise

Now, that is a fearmonger headline... hmmmmmmmmm...

Another false flag to divert attention from what's really happening?

This to divert attention from:

1) The radiation that is now threatening to harm every living thing in the United States forever.

2) The dams upriver as far as Montana from Fort Calhoun Nuclear Plant and Cooper Nuclear Plant about to flood.

3) The dumping of millions and millions of gallons of highly-radiated water into the Pacific Ocean by TEPCO in Japan.

4) The report of contamination 7.5 million times the legal limit in Fukushima area - and that is only what they are admitting to.

5) The fact that [color=limegreen]all the foodstuffs in the fields in North America are being radiated on a daily basis - 24 hours a day - and there is no end in sight!

6) The fact that virtually all of the land-based food and now the sea food has been radiated to some degree in Japan.

7) The fact that an area the size of Manhattan (about 17% of Japan) is now uninhabitable because of elevated radiation levels.

I'm mad as hell and I'm not going to take it anymore!

There is no safe level of radionuclide exposure, whether from food, water or other sources.

[color=limegreen]Period.

Exposure to radionuclides, such as iodine-131 and cesium-137, increases the incidence of cancer. For this reason, every effort must be taken to minimize the radionuclide content in food and water.

via Physicians for Social Responsibility, psr.org

Thank you for your time and consideration.

These challenges to life and sanity on this planet must be met with clear minds and sound hearts - onward through the fog!

In Peace, Love & Light

tfw


Epilogue:


The United States will be destroyed, land and people, by atomic bombs and radioactivity. Only the Hopis and their homeland will be preserved as an oasis to which refugees will flee. Bomb shelters are a fallacy. "It is only materialistic people who seek to make shelters. Those who are at peace in their hearts already are in the great shelter of life. There is no shelter for evil. Those who take no part in the making of world division by ideology are ready to resume life in another world, be they Black, White, Red, or Yellow race. They are all one, brothers.

The True White Brother will bring with him two great, intelligent and powerful helpers, one of whom will have a sign of a swastika (a masculine symbol of purity), and the sign of the sun. The second great helper will have the sign of a celtic cross with red lines (representing female life blood) between the arms of the cross.

[color=limegreen]When the Great Purification is near, these helpers will shake the earth first for a short time in preparation. After they shake the earth two times more, they will be joined by the True White Brother, who will become one with them and bring the Purification Day to the world. All three will help the "younger brother" (the Hopi and other pure-hearted people) to make a better world. In the prophecies, the two helpers are designated by the Hopi word for "population," as if they were large groups of people.

The True White Brother and his helpers will show the people of earth a great new life plan that will lead to everlasting life. The earth will become new and beautiful again, with an abundance of life and food. Those who are saved will share everything equally. All races will intermarry and speak one tongue and be a family.


"And this is the Ninth and Last Sign: You will hear of a dwelling-place in the heavens, above the earth, that shall fall with a great crash. It will appear as a blue star. Very soon after this, the ceremonies of my people will cease."


The signs are interpreted as follows:

The First Sign is of guns.

The Second Sign is of the pioneers' covered wagons.

The Third Sign is of longhorn cattle. The Fourth Sign describes the railroad tracks.

The Fifth Sign is a clear image of our electric power and telephone lines.

The Sixth Sign describes concrete highways and their mirage-producing effects.

The Seventh Sign foretells of oil spills in the ocean.

The Eighth Sign clearly indicates the "Hippy Movement" of the 1960s.

The Ninth Sign was the U.S. Space Station Skylab, which fell to Earth in 1979. According to Australian eye-witnesses, it appeared to be burning blue.

The Hopi also predicted that when the "heart" of the Hopi land trust is dug up, great disturbances will develop in the balance of nature, for the [color=limegreen]Hopi holy land is the microcosmic image of the entire planet; any violations of nature in the Four Corners region will be reflected and amplified all over the Earth.
Rainbow



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posted on Jun, 27 2011 @ 11:04 PM
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Originally posted by zworld

Originally posted by Silverlok
The practical upshot is that the chances for re-cricality in the fluids or filtration is incredibility high,
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This also means that the structural weakening of the buildings and pools is going to progress much faster than calculations not including galvanic currents/transport would suggest


Not good. At all. Just goes to show how hit and miss this whole thing has been since day one. They spend more time correcting what they did previously than moving forward.


I do believe it is more explainitory that expository , as Tepco has almost certainly known the whole time ...:" any engineer show know about galvanic transport" , but it does give us a better model to their level of deception and the over-all plan



posted on Jun, 27 2011 @ 11:37 PM
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I believe that there was a spike in "put options" in the weeks leading to March 11, just as there was with 911. I would like to find out who it is that made big bucks from the event in Japan by doing so. Follow the money.

" During the first week the 911 producers made a spectacular fortune, just on the Stock Market alone. How? By knowing in advance that the stocks in Airline and Insurance Companies associated with the 911crash, would fall in value. Using that inside information they made negative bets on the Stock Market called Put Options.
Put Options are bets that a certain stock will fall in value by a certain date. It’s big risk gambling unless you’ve got inside information that can turn your bet into a sure thing. But that’s illegal if you get caught at it.
Put Option bets on the decline on 911 related Airline and Insurance stocks skyrocked by a whopping 600% just before 911, which means that somebody knew about the attacks before they happened. Who exactly were those somebody’s?
Merrill Lynch and HSBC, Morgan Stanley, Dean Witter, the Bank of America, weapons manufacturer Raytheon, the Lehman Brothers, General Motors, Swiss Re, Munich Re and AXA Re Insurance Company which owns 25% of American Airlines. These Insiders bought Put options through Douche Bank.

Fuzzy Comgard, the former executive director of the CIA just happened to be the manager of Douche Bank and so these profiteers from 911 were not Osama Bin Laden or his band of US trained Arabs, they were Blue Chip Israeli, US and British businessmen. Within the first week the 911 producers sucked up 40 billion in box office profits from US taxpayers who were hypnotized, terrorized and traumatized by the infinite reruns."


lovelight9112001.blogspot.com...



posted on Jun, 28 2011 @ 12:45 AM
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Originally posted by zworld
This is what an informed agency concerned about public health might say about the weather hitting the US.

There is a strong low pressure system approaching the westcoast of the United States. This system may contain emissions from Fukushima, as recent wind patterns over the last four days have been towards the US at both low and high elevations. It is best to avoid contact with this rain as much as is possible. Wear raingear and shoes that can be left outside the main living quarters, wash these off before using them again, and do not let children play in the puddles. Thank you, your friends at the EPA.

It doesnt cause people to panic. It causes people to think how they can avoid exposure as much as possible. The human race is a hellova lot smarter than TPTB think. And the fuse is lit.


Good post zworld. If the US government had any intention of acting in good faith they would have been creating rain out events over the Pacific Ocean, to rid the sky of the radiation. It's not like they don't have the technology, that is old school. To bad for us that the exact opposite is true, and were supposed to swallow "climate change" and/or "global warming".


"In Australia, CSIRO’s activities in Tasmania in the 1960s were successful.[37] Seeding over the Hydro-Electricity Commission catchment area on the Central Plateau achieved rainfall increases as high as 30% in autumn. The Tasmanian experiments were so successful that the Commission has regularly undertaken seeding ever since in mountainous parts of the State."

www.answers.com...



posted on Jun, 28 2011 @ 07:04 AM
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www.reuters.com...

Radioactive water leaks from Tepco plant

(Reuters) - Tons of radioactive water was discovered to have leaked into the ground from the Fukushima nuclear plant, Japan's nuclear watchdog said on Tuesday.

About 15 tons of water with a low level of radiation leaked from a storage tank at the plant, on the Pacific coast 240 km (150 miles) north of Tokyo, the Nuclear and Industrial Safety Agency said.

Plant operator Tokyo Electric Power Co said it was still investigating the cause of the leak, which was repaired after being discovered around noon on Tuesday.

Vast amounts of water contaminated with varying levels of radiation have accumulated in storage tanks at the plant after being used by the utility to cool reactors damaged when their original cooling systems were knocked out by the March 11 earthquake and tsunami.

Tepco is trying to use a decontamination system that cleans radioactive water so it can be recycled to cool the reactors, but has encountered technical glitches.



posted on Jun, 28 2011 @ 08:21 AM
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The use of children in radiation experiments is going big time. If this follows the earlier distribution, then city officials are lying. These are not dosimeters that will alert and warn you if you enter an area of higher radiation. They will hang around their necks and quietly let these children be exposed while recording the levels. If there was concern for their exposure they would be evacuated or given real dosimeters. This is just putting a silencer on the gun aimed and firing at these innocent children.

34,000 Fukushima children to receive radiation meters







(AP)
TOKYO - Radiation meters will be distributed to about 34,000 children living in the largest city near the tsunami-damaged Fukushima Dai-ichi nuclear plant to monitor their exposure levels, a city official said Tuesday.

The decision to hand out the meters comes amid growing concern over the safety of children as the nuclear crisis at the Fukushima plant drags on, posing potential long-term health risks.

The devices, called dosimeters, will be distributed in September to children between the ages of four and 15 living in Fukushima city, which has recorded relatively high radiation levels since a massive March 11 earthquake and tsunami severely damaged the nuclear plant.

Dosimeters have already been supplied to area schools but not to each student, according to city official Koichi Kato. Other towns in the area have begun similar measures, but Fukushima's plan is the largest to date.


Source

ETA: TEPCO won...

TOKYO — The operator of the stricken Fukushima nuclear plant met with angry shareholders on Tuesday, offering profuse apologies as hecklers shouted abuse from a rowdy floor. But a motion that would force the company to abandon its nuclear program was defeated.

The management of Tokyo Electric Power also pushed through the appointment of 17 board members, including the reappointment of its 71-year-old chairman, raising questions over the extent of the overhaul that the company has promised in the wake of the unprecedented nuclear disaster.


All board members except one are TEPCO executives.
TEPCO 1 Humanity 0
TEPCO is staying in nuclear

Source


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posted on Jun, 28 2011 @ 10:42 AM
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Patching the Roof of Fukushima's Nuclear Plant 6/28/2011 1:16:09 AM

Tokyo Electric Power Company Architect Hiroo Sugihara unveils his proposal on how to quickly patch a damaged roof above reactor no. 1 at the Fukushima Daiichi nuclear power plant in Japan which is still releasing radioactive material.

online.wsj.com...

Oh man, he even has the model "working". That's the FUNNY part of this vid!!

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posted on Jun, 28 2011 @ 10:48 AM
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Oh man...

TEPCO Fails to Inspect Fukushima Pipes for Over 2 Weeks...

www.youtube.com...



posted on Jun, 28 2011 @ 10:53 AM
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I love their models - brilliant. SO realistic - I was watching one of the news channels and thought one was actual footage.


Its a shame they can't apply the same effort they put into these models, flowcharts and diagrams to the actual problem at hand - you know those pesky reactors.



posted on Jun, 28 2011 @ 10:54 AM
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Okay, if this wasn't so tragic this would ALMOST be funny.

Leave it to the Japanese to try to cover up the accident as "Bad Poo"..

www.youtube.com...

You will find yourself laughing....



posted on Jun, 28 2011 @ 11:07 AM
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Yes I remember seeing this before a few hundred pages back.

This whole thing is unbelievable. The weather reported that the jetstream had moved bringing in lots of heavy rain which we have had all day. It would be nice to know what it contains, or if there is any risk. I am not liable to panic, but the fact that there is no reporting now and no one is monitoring and then reading about food being sent to third world countries - its just too bad for words.

But hey ho, lets get back to America's Got Talent (I am confused over their definition of talent - ours wasn't much better either) as there is nothing to see. The big bad Fuku she is fine - just a bit of fashion problems - nothing that a kimono can't sort out.
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posted on Jun, 28 2011 @ 11:51 AM
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J&C, SFA and other members of the ATS Fukushima Forensics team, please critique the following. I concur with the analysis concerning the tower sections of roof getting blown off from the R3 blast, or being hit by R3 debris, and causing much of the debris field behind the mystery building (MB), but not with the assessment that structural design caused some buildings to blow out and not others. Here is my reasoning;

Transmission building (TB). As photos below show the TB was constructed from the same material as many of the outbuildings, thin sheets of metal. Structurally much of the plant is of this weak design, whether metal or concrete. Note in the first photo that the sheets are stockpiled to the left and around the bend. To me this suggests tsunami damage.



An idea of the run up height of the tsunami. Note that this building is also metal.



This is a tsunami debris pileup on the southside of TB. This gives an idea of the force that hit the TB and CSFP.



This shows tsunami damage to walls in small buildings on the other side of turbine buildings away from blast damage.



Knowing how weak these structures are it is hard to explain why the walls below survived intact.







Yet a building with no windows blew out completely down to its bottom floor, but only on the bascksides away from the blast. Photo 10



And the end result shows the windowless wall closest to 3 having been blown outwards with a debris field in front of it. The damage to the east walls of the TB to the left of the MB appear to be tsunami damage with the same bottom pull out as photo above showing tsunami effect.



So the fact that weak metal walled structures closer to R3 were left intact, or show tsunami damage but not blast damage, and the MB ended up like this



leads me to conclude that the mystery as to what happened to the MB remains.

ON EDIT: the pics above come from

www.flickr.com... or the original helicopter overflight from March 15 or cryptome.org...

If you need an individual cite Ill get it


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posted on Jun, 28 2011 @ 12:06 PM
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Ive been wondering for sometime about what chemical reactions might be going on. Not only do you have the ones they know about, (or should as you suggest) there is an untold amount of synthetic substances used in the piping, electrical systems, paints etc that comprise the inside of the reactor buildings, and that have in some cases melted into the masses we see. As firefighters know, the most dangerous aspect of firefighting in a modern building is from the toxic fumes being emitted from all the toxic crap we use to build stuff. In 3 and 4 especially theres no telling what toxic stew is bubbling away in the SFPs and 3s reactor. I hope the water theyre using for coolant is straight from the reservoir and not chlorinated or fluorinated, which would add a whole other set of reactions possible.

ON EDIT: In fact, now considering it, concrete contains (usually) high levels of nonylphenol, one of the most toxic and dangerous substances ever created, and like chlorine and fluorine, does not exist in nature by itself, and is very reactive.
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posted on Jun, 28 2011 @ 12:21 PM
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This is a shot showing the outward blast damage to the east facing windowless wall of the MB. If this wall had been blown out by R3 explosion it wouldnt look like this.




posted on Jun, 28 2011 @ 12:33 PM
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The following is tsunami damage to the CSFP. These shots are of the door on the east facing wall. Note the pipeline running up over the top and into the CSFP. Dont known what its for, but below that is a picture of one of these lines going into a truck? This isnt in the vicinity of the CSFP so its not the same line though.





I keep forgetting to list cites. the first two are from
www.flickr.com...
The other
cryptome.org...


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