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posted on May, 30 2011 @ 12:14 AM
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I dont know the area this was taken in, this is not `alert level` radiation. Over 100 counts per minute is `alert level`. This is elevated, and no radiation is good, obviously, but not `high` high.

Is it possible to be alert without being alarmist? I dont know. I would say I would feel perfectly safe out of Japan right now and would be very grateful to be in this area with my children.




posted on May, 30 2011 @ 12:33 AM
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Current Wind Map shows a definite shift in winds from a few days ago as the storm cell passes over the area. You can see the classic counter-clockwise swirling of cyclones in the northern hemisphere.

As Phage mentioned in this post the cooler waters of the northern Pacific weakened the storm by a good degree or there would be much worse problems. This is just the beginning of the storm season, though so there will undoubtedly be more to contend with.



posted on May, 30 2011 @ 06:07 AM
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Iodine-131: 24,000 becquerels/liter



Thanks so much Thousand Island Sunny for your responses. I did not mean to insinuate guilt on the Japanese people. The greedy/corrupt government and corporations are the culprits all over the world.

Some information...it looks like Unit 2 has gone critical...Iodine 131...

#Fukushima I Nuke Plant: Radioactive Materials at Reactor 2 Silt Fence Rising, Again

Radioactive iodine-131 shot up inside the silt fence in front of the water intake for the Reactor 2. Radioactive cesium (134 and 137) continues to rise OUTSIDE the silt fence for the Reactor 4, and the water levels at the trenches from the Reactors 2 and 3 continue to rise.

All is not well at Fukushima I Nuke Plant; it never has been since the earthquake.

From TEPCO's press release (English) on May 29:

Unit 2 inside the silt fence, for the sample taken on May 28:

Iodine-131: 24,000 becquerels/liter
Cesium-134: 4,100 becquerels/liter
Cesium-137: 4,300 becquerels/liter

The same nuclides from the sample taken on May 27 (and announced on May 28):

Iodine-131: 5,200 becquerels/liter
Cesium-134: 1,600 becquerels/liter
Cesium-137: 1,700 becquerels/liter

ex-skf.blogspot.com...



posted on May, 30 2011 @ 06:24 AM
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New Live Webcast to begin June 1st



blogs.wsj.com...

- Purple Chive



posted on May, 30 2011 @ 06:37 AM
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www.reuters.com...




(Reuters) Measurements of external exposure and radioactive iodine in their thyroid glands suggested that the two male workers, one in his 30s and the other in his 40s, had surpassed the maximum set by the government of 250 millisieverts over the life of the control and clean-up project.


Also reported at news.xinhuanet.com... and mdn.mainichi.jp...

The drip-feed of bad news continues out of Fukushima.

The fact that this is radioiodine in the thyroid conclusively shows internal exposure, presumably by breathing heavily contaminated air in the plant without appropriate filtering.

I think it's fair to assume there will be more stories along these lines in the coming weeks.
edit on 30-5-2011 by whatisanameanyway because: Broken link



posted on May, 30 2011 @ 07:34 AM
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Hello Japan watchers…

It’s been an interesting month of travel for Silent Thunder. The wind has blown me back into Tokyo, and I’ll be here for at least the rest of this week. I’ll let you know if anything interesting comes up. In the meantime, I will dispense with the radiation info and so on, because this thread appears to be down to a pretty hard core and you all know how and where to get the info you need. I don’t have much to offer you but photos, so here ya go.



Based on cursory observation and second-hand accounts, life in Tokyo appears to be chugging along more or less as it ever did, albeit at a slightly lower wattage and with a few marks of change here and there. I didn’t have a newspaper handy today so you will just have to take my word for it I guess.

Below are two aerial shots of Shibuya, followed by a shot of Shinjuku’s skyline as seen from Shibuya.





Below: Although the city seems to have regained much of its former vividness, there are still many signs of things out of tune, such as neatly shuttered but forlorn-looking shops and a pervasive gloom from lack of lights. The main lobby of the Hotel Nikko Tokyo is spotless...and silent as the grave. You could hear a pin drop on the immaculately polished floor. I'm guessing the tourism industry is nonplussed with the way things are working out.

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posted on May, 30 2011 @ 11:23 AM
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This is ren1999 on the ground in Tokyo.
We haven't felt an aftershock in a week but many here are still not comfortably feeling safe.
We all hope that Fuji will shoot ash over the city as a warning before a big one hits. But people aren't relying on that. They as well as I know that we could be devastated at any time.

People have returned to their homes in Fukushima knowing the great risk. They have no idea how contaminated it is nor do they want to know.

This sounds bad, but I think that the world needs to research the people of Fukushima who have returned so that if they die, it won't have been for nothing. Let's keep track of the number of cancers, birth defects and rate of illnesses.

Let's also keep track of how much contaminated seafood and vegetables are sent out of Fukushima.



posted on May, 30 2011 @ 12:17 PM
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Originally posted by Hmmmmmmmmmmmmm
Sorry to be a pain but how about this one.



That was informative. Also the count is lower in water, but, it was still within a certain smaller range. 120 is where you have to be concerned more. Not withstanding, we're directly at the coast, with tons of rainfall. Not that kind of hail but we had some.

We also have a huge, wonderful heritage seed garden in from my father insisting everything was OK. And the first batch of green onions are done.

The question is, should we eat our produce or consider them toxic? And compared to the altered, chemical soup, often gmo mix in stores, I'd still think this is better?

We're painting iodine, sporadically, as north americans are completely depleted of this much needed nutrient that prevents a large number of diseases including detoxes heavy metals, and you got it, radiation, no matter what lies they've been saying about it.

And I have my kelp pills and natural sea salt for our salt.

Have also added P'au Darco tea, which really tastes nice with honey. Very similar to regular tetley with a hint of woody tones.



posted on May, 30 2011 @ 01:00 PM
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All you have to do is research Chernobyl. Radiation is the same everywhere. Laws of Physics do not change. The people in Fukushima will surely suffer. Many will die if they haven't already.

I would assume a government would cover up instances of radiation sickness. They'd probably call it the flu, or pneumonia.

Look for higher incident counts of "pneumonia."



posted on May, 30 2011 @ 01:04 PM
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From enenews.com:

Pneumonia cases "surge" in Japan's Tohoku Region

Yes, look for pneumonia case counts to rise.



posted on May, 30 2011 @ 03:43 PM
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Im sorry but there is something funny going on here. I have not been able to see the plant in the webcam for over a week, some of that is due to work, baby, pub etc, but i can only see fog fog fog and more fog or steam, now they are announcing a new cam???
Couple that with the cooling malfunction and recent radiation readings from reactor 2....I dunno I could be miles off but it just sticks out to me.



posted on May, 30 2011 @ 03:54 PM
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Originally posted by mattandkat
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Im sorry but there is something funny going on here. I have not been able to see the plant in the webcam for over a week, some of that is due to work, baby, pub etc, but i can only see fog fog fog and more fog or steam, now they are announcing a new cam??? Are they going to be keeping both, is it the same, different view so we cant see R4?
Couple that with the cooling malfunction and recent radiation readings from reactor 2....I dunno I could be miles off but it just sticks out to me.



posted on May, 30 2011 @ 04:00 PM
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In my opinion you should go ahead and eat the onions.

Virtually all food in the north hemisphere has been contaminated to some extent already.

So who cares at this point? Eat those onions.

In fact a good diet could help fight off some of the deterioration caused by the induced radiation.

So eat two of those onions.



posted on May, 30 2011 @ 05:45 PM
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Australia



An interesting read ...
www.independentaustralia.net...

On a lot of "egghead" forums...there's a heck of a lot of more consternation recently about recriticality and ramifications that had not been brought up before...they don't like the numbers coming out of unit 1 and 2 especially. Numerous mathematical computations being thrown out there and dudes that have been relatively laid back and detached throughout the whole episode are kinda getting excited...

Anyhow...matter at the atomic level can be very volatile under certain hypothetical circumstances...and it appears that some of these "hypothetical" circumstances...might be starting to occur...

Anyhow...we shall just continue think "Happy Thoughts"!!

- Purple Chive



posted on May, 30 2011 @ 06:04 PM
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Originally posted by ren1999
This is ren1999 on the ground in Tokyo.
We haven't felt an aftershock in a week but many here are still not comfortably feeling safe.
We all hope that Fuji will shoot ash over the city as a warning before a big one hits. But people aren't relying on that. They as well as I know that we could be devastated at any time.

People have returned to their homes in Fukushima knowing the great risk. They have no idea how contaminated it is nor do they want to know.


Let's also keep track of how much contaminated seafood and vegetables are sent out of Fukushima.



People have not been ALLOWED to go back. 1 adult member from each family was allowed to go back to their house to collect things, clothed in protective gear, with walky talkys, an escort and only for a very limited time. People in Fukushima`s no go zone are either in temporary accomodation or shelters. search.japantimes.co.jp...

search.japantimes.co.jp... (article about evacuees from Fukushima who long to be able to go home, from today`s paper).


Those who are not in the no go zone never left in the first place. Such as this farmer - search.japantimes.co.jp...

Fuji is monitored continually. There is no chance that it will blow with no warning. It is not considered even a threat at the moment, the caldera is not even a no go zone. Level 2 warning with a volcano is do not approch the crater, a level 3 is do not approach the volcano, a level 4 is prepare to evacuate, and a level 5 is evacuate. At the moment there are 2 volcanos on land which have a level 2 warning and two with a level 3 warning, all of them in the south of Japan. There are also 4 more in the sea of Japan with warnings from what I can see. Fuji isnt even hot, it has no warning at all. Put it this way, we can all see there are no ash or cinders, and the snow is still unmelted.

The food issue is a problem. Many farmers have chosen not to plant this year, but there has been problems with contaminated areas being allowed to sell food. The fish is a particular worry.



posted on May, 30 2011 @ 06:06 PM
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Originally posted by mattandkat
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Im sorry but there is something funny going on here. but i can only see fog fog fog and more fog or steam, now they are annou.


It is very foggy! We have had a typhoon which brought bad weather, it has been grey and foggy for about a week.



posted on May, 30 2011 @ 06:09 PM
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From enenews.com:

Pneumonia cases "surge" in Japan's Tohoku Region

Yes, look for pneumonia case counts to rise.


Just to put it out there, these people have been sleeping on floors, with carboard underneath them, in areas which are damp. The weather is not warm at all in March, to May in Tohoku. Also, there are a LOT of people all squeezed into these centres, all sleeping and living with no proper toilets or washing facilities, of course illness spreads like wildfire.

Also, these pnemonia cases are not mainly near Fukushima, they are in tsunami hit areas. Tohoku does not mean just Fukushima.

There are NO people vomiting with hair falling out, sores on their skin.

Yes we will see problems in the long term, and possibly short term, but this is what it says it is, Im afraid guys.



posted on May, 30 2011 @ 07:15 PM
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2 million becquerels of radioactive cesium, Unit 1



Maybe this is why the "eggheads" are getting antsy...

www3.nhk.or.jp...

Do wonder if we'll ever see the condition of the plant after this storm rolls through...really hope the aftershocks will be non-existent for a sustained period of time!!

- Purple Chive



posted on May, 30 2011 @ 07:37 PM
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www.youtube.com...

Its still foggy there. Tokyo is clear and bright today.

Ill check the weather channel here and see what is going on with Fukushima`s weather on the coast.



posted on May, 30 2011 @ 10:20 PM
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Well so other than multiple total fuel pool meltdowns, we have a worst case scenario on our hands; the meltdown corium keeps undergoing re-criticality under each reactor and there's practically nothing we can conventially do to stop it.

I guess the operating costs of living on Antarctica will start to look attractive..






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