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Japan declares 'nuclear emergency' after quake

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posted on Apr, 27 2011 @ 05:57 PM
Earthquakes near Japan within the last hour:

Magnitude 5.1

* Wednesday, April 27, 2011 at 21:45:03 UTC
* Thursday, April 28, 2011 at 06:45:03 AM at epicenter
* Time of Earthquake in other Time Zones

Location 38.170°N, 141.778°E
Depth 53.3 km (33.1 miles)
22 miles SE of Onagawa Nuclear Power Plant
78 km (48 miles) E of Sendai, Honshu, Japan
123 km (76 miles) ENE of Fukushima, Honshu, Japan
126 km (78 miles) E of Yamagata, Honshu, Japan
329 km (204 miles) NNE of TOKYO, Japan
Location Uncertainty horizontal +/- 19.6 km (12.2 miles); depth +/- 7.3 km (4.5 miles)
Parameters NST=258, Nph=262, Dmin=365.1 km, Rmss=0.74 sec, Gp=108°,
M-type=body wave magnitude (Mb), Version=7
Event ID usc00030dp

Magnitude 5.1

* Wednesday, April 27, 2011 at 21:42:50 UTC
* Thursday, April 28, 2011 at 07:42:50 AM at epicenter
* Time of Earthquake in other Time Zones

Location 36.738°N, 142.685°E
Depth 31.9 km (19.8 miles)

* 163 km (101 miles) ESE (102°) from Iwaki, Honshu, Japan
* 201 km (125 miles) ENE (78°) from Mito, Honshu, Japan
* 225 km (140 miles) ESE (119°) from Fukushima, Honshu, Japan
* 289 km (180 miles) ENE (65°) from TOKYO, Japan
Location Uncertainty horizontal +/- 16.9 km (10.5 miles); depth +/- 3.4 km (2.1 miles)
Parameters NST=160, Nph=167, Dmin=401.9 km, Rmss=1.25 sec, Gp= 97°,
M-type=body wave magnitude (Mb), Version=4
Event ID usc00030dj

posted on Apr, 27 2011 @ 05:58 PM

Originally posted by curioustype
reply to post by SFA437

Hi SFA 437...enjoyed all your posts to date, just a question about that post where you tried to emphasise the sound analysis of the R3 explosions - BLEVEs...

It all made sense, that you are saying the sounds are more structural failure - but my question is - where does that leave the visual evidence of the fireball that is highlighted in Mr Gundersen's last R3 detonation focused video? i.e. as Mr Gundersen implies, that fireball or flash of ignited matter (gas?), I don't understand how that wasn't or wouldn't be expected to be, a source for audio evidence of at least one non-structural failure explosive event in that chain of sounds? - Or have I missed something?

That video was shot from around 10 miles out. That is roughly 52,000 feet. Sound travels at 1100 fps giving us a lag time of around 42 seconds or so.

For that flash to be attributable to the explosion the laws of physics would need to be suspended. Think of the lag time between a firework going off, you seeing it and then hearing the sound and in that case you're talking 1500 feet or so. Stretch that lag time out to 52,000 feet and you can see why it is impossible for those sounds to be a result of the event seen on the video. Whatever created them were inside the building, non-explosive in nature and 45 seconds or so before the blast.was seen on video.

That orange fireball is IMO secondary to the hydrogen explosion. Most likely thing would be lubricating oils like those that have caught on fire and burned for 8-10 hours at most of the other reactors. A big enough pressure wave hits a combustible liquid in the presence of a heat source and you have an aerosol fire. Same principle as a BLU-96.

posted on Apr, 27 2011 @ 05:58 PM
reply to post by Moshpet

Hey you two mad bombers... I gotz a job for you... a little side trip to TEPCO HQ for a little demo work

posted on Apr, 27 2011 @ 06:02 PM

. Same principle as a BLU-96.

AKA Daisy Cutter?

posted on Apr, 27 2011 @ 06:03 PM
I just hope they make larger sea walls or keep these facilities away from the coast from now on.


posted on Apr, 27 2011 @ 06:10 PM

Originally posted by Dragonfly79
"Hey guys look here's my birth certificate so many people were arguing about some time ago remember?"

Vegas Magicians are expert at misdirection
Obama and TEPCO would never make it out here

Its actually amazing that it took the CIA this long to forge that simple document

TEPCO is using the words 'we MAY do this' and 'we are CONSIDERING doing that' or 'we PLAN to do this or that in a few months' Kinda wondering when they will actually DO something other than 'MONITOR the situation' and APOLOGIZE for errors

posted on Apr, 27 2011 @ 06:12 PM
reply to post by zorgon

They'll apologize around the same time that we evolve past the need to cram sustenance into pieholes in the middle of our faces. Just a SWAG but it seems a well thought out one

posted on Apr, 27 2011 @ 06:13 PM
reply to post by Tworide

Fuel/Air explosive device.

Poor man's nuke- it is an evil, evil device. The BLU-82 is the daisy cutter and the 96 makes it look like a firecracker.

If you go frame by frame just before the flash you catch a glimpse of the pressure wave- THEN the orange flash. This is telling me that the orange flash is secondary to the initial explosion. The flash also collapses rapidly into itself immediately afterwards which suggests a tertiary explosion and/or event occurring which radically changed the air pressure IVO the reactor building.

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posted on Apr, 27 2011 @ 06:17 PM
Sharing the details as the industrious map makers around the net add meat to schematics in case it helps with analysis. Units 1-4 shown.


posted on Apr, 27 2011 @ 06:21 PM
reply to post by SFA437

Thanks very much for answering that (again?) that sounds a little familiar now you've said it, from the earlier discussion, I just took another look at Zorgon's blueprints and it does indeed look like a vertical canon...

Like Mr Gundersen says though, wouldn't it be nice of the government released the atmoshperic monitoring data we ALL know they have available and implies EXACTLY what happened, so that the world was not having to rely entirely on civilians pooring over poor quality video footage...?

posted on Apr, 27 2011 @ 06:27 PM
reply to post by curioustype

TPTB like fat, happy and ignorant sheep. Sheepdogs are few, far between and mostly here it seems.

People would break down and panic if his kind of thing was presented on CNN or MSNBC. A person is smart, reasonably intelligent and able to form conclusions. PEOPLE are panicky herd animals.

We will never see actual raw data or get a straight story from anyone inside TEPCO. Then again we really do not need it here with the amount of forensic analysis going on after the fact.

posted on Apr, 27 2011 @ 06:28 PM
reply to post by SFA437

No offense but when it comes down to you or Gundersen I'll take Gundy.

posted on Apr, 27 2011 @ 06:30 PM

Originally posted by buffet of lies

Originally posted by MedievalGhost
An earthquake expert on Japanese tv news this morning said they are expecting a magnitude 8+ quake to hit anytime in either Aomori prefecture area in the the north, or Tokyo area in the south.

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Does that mean 'anytime now' or 'anytime in the future'?

Possibly 'anytime NOW' True American is watching it on this thread

A 8.0 plus south of Tokyo would be VERY BAD

During this shaking since the 9.1 there have been several of concern that are not aftershocks

MAR 13... near the tri corner plate junction 4.6

MAR 15... at the other junction 6.1 (this is right below Mt Fuji)

APR 19... 5.2

The pressure has been building up on this plate for years and even more so since the other plate slipped 30 meters west. THIS is the 'Big One' Japan has been waiting for, the other one caught them by surprise..


Experts: Quakes increased before March 11 disaster

xperts say increased seismic activities in the Pacific Ocean in recent years may have been a sign of the massive quake of March 11th.

The Coordinating Committee for Earthquake Prediction, which consists of experts from universities and research institutes, met on Tuesday to discuss last month's quake and tsunami. A Tohoku University research group said seismic activities started to increase off eastern prefectures from Miyagi to Ibaraki about 3 years before the massive quake.

Nagoya University Professor Koshun Yamaoka said research by a national institute shows that the focuses of small quakes in the 2 days before March 11th gradually moved closer to the focus of the massive earthquake.

Professor Yamaoka said these seismic activities may have been an indicator of the mega-quake that followed.

The Geospatial Information Authority of Japan said coastal areas of Miyagi and Chiba prefectures sank during the huge quake, but some rose 5 to 8 centimeters afterwards. The authority said tectonic plates have continued to shift since the massive quake.

CCEP Vice Deputy Chairman and Tohoku University Graduate School Professor Toru Matsuzawa told reporters that relatively big earthquakes struck off Japan's northeast during a short period in the past, but the huge quake was beyond prediction. He said his group will closely monitor seismic activities and tectonic movements.

Wednesday, April 27, 2011 06:29 +0900 (JST)

So they were seeing build up signs moving closer to the epicenter for three years... and now the quakes are steadily moving closer to Tokyo

posted on Apr, 27 2011 @ 06:31 PM

Radiation Readings in Fukushima Reactor Rise to Highest Since Crisis Began

Radiation readings at Japan’s Fukushima Dai-Ichi station rose to the highest since an earthquake and tsunami knocked out cooling systems, impeding efforts to contain the worst nuclear crisis since Chernobyl.

Two robots sent into the reactor No. 1 building at the plant yesterday took readings as high as 1,120 millisierverts of radiation per hour, Junichi Matsumoto, a general manager at Tokyo Electric Power Co., said today. That’s more than four times the annual dose permitted to nuclear workers at the stricken plant.

Radiation from the station, where four of six reactors have been damaged by explosions, has forced the evacuation of tens of thousands of people and contaminated farmland and drinking water. A plan to flood the containment vessel of reactor No. 1 with more water to speed up emergency cooling efforts announced yesterday by the utility known as Tepco may not be possible now.

Tepco plans to decontaminate the two iRobot Corp. Packbot robots before sending them into a building tomorrow or later to further investigate the damage, spokesman Takeo Iwamoto said. High radiation in the reactor buildings prevents engineers from working inside them, Iwamoto said.

Reactors 1 and 2 are less damaged than estimated, Tepco said in a statement today.
As much as 55 percent of the No. 1 reactor core at the Fukushima Dai-Ichi station was damaged, compared with its earlier estimate of 70 percent.

“We revised the core damage data because some readings on the containment vessel monitors were wrong,” Matsumoto said. “There was also a recording mistake. We are investigating why this happened.”

The assessment for the No. 2 reactor was cut to 25 percent from 35 percent, while that for the No. 3 unit was raised to 30 percent from 25 percent.

“It seems a reasonable estimate that three reactor cores may be damaged to a similar extent,” said Unesaki. The new estimate “doesn’t indicate lower or higher risks at the plant.”

Radiation in Tokyo’s water supply fell to undetectable levels for the first time since March 18, the capital’s public health institute said today.

The level of iodine-131 in tap water fell to zero yesterday, and cesium-134 and cesium-137 also weren’t detected, the Tokyo Metropolitan Institute of Public Health said today.

Contradictions. Someone take the calculator away from these people. It's clear they have no idea. Some good news for Tokyo water. Unless they are neglecting, like the U.S. EPA, to mention plutonium, stratonium, etc. in their findings. But hey...the short term stuff is all citizens need to know.

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posted on Apr, 27 2011 @ 06:35 PM
reply to post by zorgon

I don't know, looks to me like the EQ's are becoming less frequent.

posted on Apr, 27 2011 @ 06:37 PM
reply to post by mrbillshow

Still waiting for that video you saw that allowed you to precisely locate the exit for the secondary explosion from overhead as being on the south side in contradiction to photos released of the building post blast.

Got a feeling it's gonna be a LONG wait.

posted on Apr, 27 2011 @ 06:38 PM

Originally posted by mrbillshow
Then I'll defer to the experts on this thread who know more than Gundersen.

Smartest thing you have posted so far in this thread
considering Gunderson is openly asking us and others to email him with information...

posted on Apr, 27 2011 @ 06:44 PM
I'll do what I can to settle the SFR vice RPV explosion argument as simply as possible using a shotgun as an example.

If you have a long barreled shotgun (goose gun- 30" barrel) you get greater reach. It focuses the energy released by the burning powder and allows complete combustion as the shot cup travels down the barrel. The shot emerges at a higher velocity and travels over greater distances (typically out to 40-50m) and keeps the shot pattern tight. This would be the RPV explosion scenario.

A sawed off shotgun however with a 10" barrel has a max effective range of 20m. This is because the powder does not have time to burn completely as well as the shot cup being released before the pellets "settle" into a stable position. It will also toss pellets widely over very short distances. This would be the SFR explosion scenario.

Hope that makes some sort of sense

posted on Apr, 27 2011 @ 06:56 PM
reply to post by SFA437

You're the expert. How did those overhead trusses remain perfectly placed over the reactor chamber while still connected to their side walls.

Must have been the "magic explosion".

Again, I'll go with Gundy.

posted on Apr, 27 2011 @ 07:00 PM
reply to post by DancedWithWolves

Those last two maps you posted look like sections of a larger drafting image.. too bad we don't have the full scale copy

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