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Japan declares 'nuclear emergency' after quake

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posted on Apr, 20 2011 @ 01:13 AM
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man I HOPE someone catches this GRILLING on youtube



People NEED to listen to this I hope they repeat it at 12:00 Pacific (4 pm Japan) The NHK reporter is asking all the tough questions... Squirm baby SQUIRM

www3.nhk.or.jp...




posted on Apr, 20 2011 @ 01:23 AM
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Wow, now THIS is progress!

KYODO NEWS


The operator of the crippled Fukushima nuclear plant said Wednesday the level of highly radioactive water filling up one of the underground tunnels at the site has dropped by 1 centimeter, a day after work to pump out the water started toward restoring key cooling functions of its troubled reactors.


Wow. One centimeter a day, now THAT is something.

They'd better pray it doesn't rain in Fukushima. Ever again.
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posted on Apr, 20 2011 @ 01:30 AM
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I am one of those few that have followed this thread since the beginning, yes I have read each and everyone of the posts here, and have come to spot several patterns, what has surprised me the most, is the level and quality of the information conveyed and the seamless intertwining of the posts that enlighten and inform,
Mr.Jadedandcynical hit the issues right on the head, MrBillshow you are on to something!

The eye watches either way I´m afraid, just the same reasons that will be its doom. This free-flow of thought is something to feel very proud of, this community has come together for something never seen in history!


Now be careful, and keep your eyes open fellow seeker, now that they have seen what this can be I´m certain, without doubt that the infestation of plants will begin, if it hasn't already so.
I´m sure they are not too happy of us being informed and being able to accurately predict and anticipate the developments of the disaster, humanity can work together, but doing so goes against the profits and the greedy monkeys want things to be the way they were, they want the "good ol´days back" when all we had was the MSN, when we couldn't really tell truth from fiction, we can now but it has taken 700+ pages and several hundred posts from very different points of view, we can now have glimpses of the "Big Picture", and they dont like it.

It takes away the illusion of control, and if an illusion of control is all they have, what stops all hell from breaking loose?
Anyway, we have to develop several hombrew techs before its to late and they finally censor the internet or simply turn it off, we have to develop ways of making this possible, when this isn't possible anymore...

Thanks everyone, and keep your eyes open, because they do!



posted on Apr, 20 2011 @ 01:35 AM
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I have read, if not every, damn near every post on this thread, I think we all should get honorary nuclear physics degrees.


I have learned more in the last month from this thread than I have from any textbook on the subject.


ATS is awesome sometimes, and this thread reminds me why I keep coming back.

Pred...
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posted on Apr, 20 2011 @ 01:41 AM
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Apologies if I have missed this info in the last 700 pages.

How long does an uncontrolled, largely un-cooled meltdown of fuel last? So that it is no longer reacting fast enough to keep its self molten?

Given that previously TEPCO seemed to be fighting to prevent a major breach by keeping the reactors just cool enough to prevent the meltdown fully.

Is their confidence based on the fact that now all they have to do is cool down a sub critical lump of fuel slag? (Admittedly still with lots of reaction going on, for high levels of radiation and heat)



posted on Apr, 20 2011 @ 01:48 AM
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How long does an uncontrolled, largely un-cooled meltdown of fuel last? So that it is no longer reacting fast enough to keep its self molten?


very good question...I think we are finding that out now



posted on Apr, 20 2011 @ 02:01 AM
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I hope I am wrong about this - but I fear that an "hourglass effect" may be going on in one or more of the reactors with molten fuel.

The containment vessels consist of very, very thick steel. Molten fuel may be slowly dripping through small fractures, a tiny bit at a time, and at the same time slowly melting the steel. Depending on these rates of dripping and melting, it's possible that it could take a rather long time for huge amounts of the fuel to completely escape the inner pressure vessels, and eventually the outer containment.

How long this might be - I can't say I have any idea. But we might be looking at an "hourglass" which is dripping on a timescale of months, if the fuel doesn't cool enough to stop this process.



posted on Apr, 20 2011 @ 02:06 AM
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Originally posted by TrueAmerican
A new quake has occurred on the southern subduction zone, and combined with the other recent seismic activity creeping up on Tokyo, I feel it is pertinent.



The possible rupture in the zone southwest of Tokyo has already been named by the government as the “Tokai earthquake.”

“We’re not claiming we can predict all earthquakes, just the Tokai earthquake,” Sadayuki Kitagawa, the education ministry’s Director for Earthquake Investigation, said by phone in Tokyo today. The government will review its methods, Kitagawa said.


www.bloomberg.com...

Smartest thing Edano has said so far...


“As a politician and not an expert, this is something I shouldn’t comment on as there are different views among specialists,” Edano told reporters today in Tokyo. “If necessary, we will review our earthquake policies based on expert opinion.”



posted on Apr, 20 2011 @ 02:32 AM
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Nobody knows buddy. We are in uncharted waters, nobody has ever been dumb enough to attempt this. We are all learning as we go, that's what makes the situation so scary.

Pred...



posted on Apr, 20 2011 @ 02:36 AM
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Originally posted by OuttaHere
Wow. One centimeter a day, now THAT is something.
They'd better pray it doesn't rain in Fukushima. Ever again.


Don't celebrate yet... look at this

Highly contaminated water level falls slightly


Tokyo Electric Power Company says the amount of highly radioactive water at the Fukushima Daiichi nuclear power plant is slightly lower now. TEPCO began moving the water to an on-site waste processing facility one day ago.

The utility company says the level of contaminated water in a tunnel linked to the No.2 reactor is one centimeter lower than the previous day as of 7 AM on Wednesday.

That amounts to a reduction of 210 tons of the water in the tunnel, pumped out at a rate of 10 tons per hour.

TEPCO is aiming to remove a total of 25,000 tons of the contaminated water out of the No. 2 turbine building basement and connecting tunnel to the nearby processing facility.

The utility says it will monitor the current pumping rate for 10 days or more and then add more pumps, to move 10,000 tons of the radiated water by mid-May.

TEPCO says contaminated water levels are also rising in the basements of reactors No.5 and 6, and in tunnels connected to reactors No.3 and 4.

It says it will transfer about 100 tons of contaminated water from the No.5 and No.6 reactors to condensers, to assess how much water is accumulating. It says groundwater may have been seeping into the reactors' turbine buildings.

TEPCO estimates a total of 67,500 tons of radioactive water has accumulated at the nuclear plant, which is hampering efforts to restore cooling systems.

Wednesday, April 20, 2011 12:55 +0900 (JST)


www3.nhk.or.jp...

So Number 5 and 6 are now getting water in the basements. They say it is 'ground water' seepage... but it is contaminated. So either 5 and 6 are leaking too, or the contaminated water is in the ground water (or the basements are connected)

It brings me back to THIS image... the OUTFLOW ports of #5&6 showing high levels of radiation...







posted on Apr, 20 2011 @ 02:55 AM
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We all get punished for telling the truth?

Then we got the right track. Dig...



posted on Apr, 20 2011 @ 03:02 AM
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Originally posted by bitbytebit
this guy is like a geo god around here.


Impressive


Well I got a plan for at least some of Tokyo for evacuation.

China and Russia build cities to support one particular industry, like Pripyat was for Chernobyl workers. So China build a few fully operational cities that now sit empty because the industry never took off.. One such city was built for the coal mines and is a city that can house 1 million people... It is empty..

Ordos, China: A Modern Ghost City
www.time.com...





Pretty snazzy digs actually








There are others as well

Sadly I don't see Japanese taking that option... though it would sure be a great option even if only temporary
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posted on Apr, 20 2011 @ 03:06 AM
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I wrote my MP saying we should be taking in as much Japanese people and their capital into Canada as possible.

We have a demographic problem here and I'd rather we solve it by importing Japanese instead of Muslims whenever possible.



posted on Apr, 20 2011 @ 03:09 AM
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Originally posted by predator0187
I think we all should get honorary nuclear physics degrees.


Ask... and Ye shall receive... (just add name and print...)




posted on Apr, 20 2011 @ 03:11 AM
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Originally posted by Exuberant1
We have a demographic problem here and I'd rather we solve it by importing Japanese instead of Muslims whenever possible.


Can we give them Quebec?




posted on Apr, 20 2011 @ 03:15 AM
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Ah yes, The Quebecois.

But keep in mind we do have to entice them to come here, sentencing them to however many years in Quebec won't work in that regard. Or will it....




posted on Apr, 20 2011 @ 03:22 AM
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Looking for a report on NHK and spotted this one about Plutonium release. Missed this before TEPCO vice president




posted on Apr, 20 2011 @ 03:24 AM
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Originally posted by Exuberant1
But keep in mind we do have to entice them to come here, sentencing them to however many years in Quebec won't work in that regard. Or will it....


You forget that Japan is in bed with the French over the Nuclear power issue.. but your right... Canada has lots of room and could easily build a Japanese city or three... be a great boom economically but I really doubt they will abandon ship... it is not in their nature.



posted on Apr, 20 2011 @ 03:33 AM
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Originally posted by zorgon
You forget that Japan is in bed with the French over the Nuclear power issue.. but your right... Canada has lots of room and could easily build a Japanese city or three... be a great boom economically but I really doubt they will abandon ship... it is not in their nature.


Nor is radiation, or amphibious qualities, so sadly there might be no choice but to abandon ship. They are proud people but if their country starts sinking, Canada will start to look real good.


Pred...



posted on Apr, 20 2011 @ 03:54 AM
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Originally posted by predator0187
Nor is radiation, or amphibious qualities, so sadly there might be no choice but to abandon ship. They are proud people but if their country starts sinking, Canada will start to look real good.



I don't see it sinking as it is riding over the other plate...





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