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Japan declares 'nuclear emergency' after quake

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posted on Apr, 19 2011 @ 02:19 PM
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The Daily TEPCO Comedy Hour



Okay the ROBOTS

Reactor #1

Showing concrete debris on floor of #1 Robot path blocked...



Open electrical panel..



Location picture was taken from



Reactor #2

Picture taken of pipe in #2. High humidity from leaking suppression pools is steaming up the lens... Robot path blocked due to lack of visibility





Reactor #3

Fabric hanging from ceiling, steel beam on floor... Robot path blocked by beam...





Location of photo



The light area is the main shipping door. The outer door was left open before the quake.. they assume the quake or tsunami opened the inner door (or the explosion )

This is the area the picture was taken from (these images before the accident... looks pretty messy in there)



...two more images of #3 before the accident showing the door (Maybe we can compare these to recent door images)





So... end result is the robots cannot get around the debris and humidity so what you see folks is what you get...




posted on Apr, 19 2011 @ 02:29 PM
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And here we watch the global dominoes neatly falling in lock step with each other. No harm to human health. No harm to children. No harm to water and food. No harm to whole oceans. Radiation is GOOD for us!. And...later down the wiggle speak line....Thank God/Goddess Fukushima happened. We'd have never known the healthful benefits of prolonged exposure to radiaiton, forever...and ever...

And even later down the line....Scientists worldwide proclaim the addition of small tails and extra fingers to the new human race, an added plus to one's sense of balance and dexterity.

Sad isn't it...

Des


edit on 03/28/2011 by Destinyone because: sp



posted on Apr, 19 2011 @ 02:32 PM
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French company to decontaminate Daiichi water


French nuclear reactor maker Areva says it has agreed with the Tokyo Electric Power Company to build a facility to decontaminate radioactive water at the compound of the Fukushima Daiichi nuclear power plant.

CEO Anne Lauvergeon told reporters in Tokyo on Tuesday that Areva -- one of the world's largest nuclear energy firms -- will build the facility to remove radioactive substances from the contaminated water.

The facility is to use chemical agents to remove radioactive iodine and cesium from contaminated water. The concentration of the radioactive substances is to be reduced to one-one thousandth to one-ten thousandth of the current level. A similar system is already in place in France.

Lauvergeon said it is most important to decontaminate the water at the plant, and that her company will try to do this in every possible way.

TEPCO told reporters on the same day that it has adopted Areva's proposal. The company says it will first transfer the contaminated water into a waste processing facility at the plant, and then decontaminate 1,200 tons of the water per day. It hopes to use decontaminated water to cool the reactors.

TEPCO hopes to start operating the decontamination facility in June.

Tuesday, April 19, 2011 21:47 +0900 (JST)


June? What they gonna do till then?

Okay they dumped 10,000 tons of relatively low level water from the waste treatment plant into the ocean to make room and it will take 29 days to fill that up with water from #2... but #2 has 25,000 estimated tons and the overall plant has 67,000 estimated tons.



So they are going to use a high pressure radiation resistant hose from #2 to the waste plant...





Well it looks like we have some time here... time enough I can watch my garden grow





edit on 19-4-2011 by zorgon because: (no reason given)



posted on Apr, 19 2011 @ 02:32 PM
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More evidence of collusion and conspiracy (yes I said it) that shows the culpability of not only Tepco's execs but that of the Japgov in hiding safety violations.


When an American whistleblower told Japanese nuclear regulators in 2000 that Tokyo Electric Power had been hiding safety violations at its atomic plants, the regulator assigned the task of investigating to the entity that knew the plants best: Tepco itself.

Two years later, the utility duly reported that its nuclear facilities were safe – only to backtrack within weeks as evidence emerged that it had falsified inspection data.


How much clearer could it be that the government has abrogated responsibility? Clearly the only concern is the bottom line no matter the cost.


The focus has mostly been on Tepco: the company has been harshly criticised over the Fukushima accident, and many say the earlier scandal illustrates a long-held contempt for safety standards.

Yet for Japanese critics of nuclear power, it is the role of regulators in the 2000-2002 episode that is most galling.


Business is in the driver's seat and government can only watch from the back. It is rather obvious that the systems in place which are supposed to ensure safety oversight are merely for show and have no power to effect needed change.



“The government has been saying atomic power is OK because we have Nisa and the Nuclear Safety Commission [another oversight body], but that’s a lie,” says Kunihiko Takeda, a uranium enrichment expert who worked in the nuclear industry for two decades before becoming a professor at Chubu University. “Tepco is bad, but it’s the system that allowed it to get that way.”


Similar to the way in which former VP Cheney got the "Haliburton Loophole" inserted into the energy policy bill which allowed energy companies the ability to refuse disclosure of the contents of highly toxic fracking fluid (see the Arkansas quake thread for discussions related to this) we have a corporate interest with fingers deep in the government pie before it's even gone in the oven.

Here we go, it's a problem with the system itself and is so intertwined that the parasitic relationship has become normal operating procedure:


A senior executive at another electric utility says the relationship between Tepco’s nuclear specialists and their erstwhile overseers is defined at the very start of their careers.

“The top graduates of Tokyo University’s nuclear physics department go to Tepco, and those who were less academically successful go to Nisa,” he says.


So, how would such an edifice be dismantled?

MASSIVE upheaval within the political structure on a level that matches the earthquake itself. Nothing less than the shattering of the bedrock of political/business foundations and a completely new and somehow untainted structure erected in it's place.

Source for above quotes.



posted on Apr, 19 2011 @ 02:32 PM
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Originally posted by zorgon

So... end result is the robots cannot get around the debris and humidity so what you see folks is what you get...




They need one of these:



Only they need one equipped with radiation shielding, a camera with a windshield wiper, and maybe with additional appendages to move/pick up stuff.


edit on 19-4-2011 by OuttaHere because: just... because.



posted on Apr, 19 2011 @ 02:35 PM
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Originally posted by Destinyone
Thank God/Goddess Fukushima happened. We'd have never know the healthful benefits of prolonged exposure to radiaiton, forever...and ever...


Well see they call that 'natural selection' A percentage of radiation resistant humans will survive and breed, thus making the human species more resilient.

As to the rest of those that don't make the grade... oh well, we needed to cut down population anyway... but now we can blame TEPCO... PTB off the hook



Well it sounded good...



posted on Apr, 19 2011 @ 02:40 PM
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I love Big Dog...when I first saw it in action, it blew me away. Talk about balance. Big Dog could handle all that crappolla in the destruction at Fukushima. Hell, Big Dog could make better decisions than TEPCO.

Des



posted on Apr, 19 2011 @ 02:42 PM
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Originally posted by OuttaHere
They need one of these:


Remember that story when NASA spent millions to make a pen that works in space and the Russians said "A pencil works just fine..." ?

Well...

At Chernobyl Russia went and got one of those RC toy tank models, strapped a camera and a detector onto it and sent it right up to the corium (Elephants Foot) to take photos and readings...



They go for around $37.00



posted on Apr, 19 2011 @ 02:45 PM
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The biggest concern is that if one plays with fire they should have an equal method to deal with fire.

This Incident clearly shows that the 'dealing with' aspect is clearly not developed.



posted on Apr, 19 2011 @ 02:47 PM
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I think a situation like this would be a great time to test these types of robots...



I don't know how they would stand up against radiation exposure. But they seem quite fit for going in areas where "traditional" robots, and humans can't go. They can also disassemble and reassemble themselves.

That makes getting through debris fields a lot easier I'm sure.

Carnegie Mellon Robotics



posted on Apr, 19 2011 @ 02:50 PM
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Hell, Big Dog could make better decisions than TEPCO.


I agree!



posted on Apr, 19 2011 @ 02:50 PM
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Tell me about it. I'm having a heck of a time locating hard data, on the effect of radiations on Rh-neg AB blood...my type of course.


Des



posted on Apr, 19 2011 @ 02:56 PM
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Path blocked... Hmmmm



Also who took this picture? the second bot? And why can't it drive on the clear spot next to the rubble pile?




Are they not using THESE?




PACKBOT: Each of iRobot's 10.9-kilogram Packbots is equipped with a three-link arm that can lift up to about 13.6 kilograms, move debris and potentially relocate hazardous materials. In addition to being able to negotiate stairs, the Packbot can travel at up to 9.3 kilometers per hour and climb grades as steep as 60 degrees. Image: COURTESY OF IROBOT CORP.


www.scientificamerican.com...


And where is THIS one hiding?


Mitsui's 600-kilogram Moni-Robo is reportedly on site at Daiichi. The one-armed robot is designed to be operated remotely—from as far as a kilometer away—and includes a camera that can take video as well as 3-D thermographic images. The 150-centimeter-tall Moni-Robo rolls along on tracks and also features sensors for measuring radioactivity and detecting combustible gases.


www.scientificamerican.com...

Thisi article was dated March 24, 2011


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posted on Apr, 19 2011 @ 03:02 PM
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Just send in the maids that cleaned that cough"same" cough room from the photo shoot.

I suspect they are sitting on a tarmac somewhere, waiting for a ream of paper work to clear them for delivery. Probably right next to the 200 Radshield suits.

Des


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posted on Apr, 19 2011 @ 03:07 PM
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That is not steam .

According to previous pictures and diagrams the torus is not at ground level and the nhk picture seems to show an RPV and containment circle , so they are not in the "basements"

how the hell did they clear the rubble... :



That should be visible out the back door (it's probably the door to the turbine building which has been open , and if it is it would explain the clean , clean sheet over something that looks like the RPV cap)

(p.s. the black cube thing that is circled in blue is the HOT object on the thermal image from a few posts ago)

the door that has a handrail like that is in the ancillary building connected to the reactor (not the actual reactor building )

Why again is a sheet in there ?



posted on Apr, 19 2011 @ 03:10 PM
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They've had those robots since before the 24th of March???

It is common in nuclear recovery to operate in shallow water, where a robot might need to be able to withstand being submerged, Whittaker says. This was the case in the basement of the Three Mile Island facility, where several hundred thousand liters of heavily contaminated cooling water had washed through the reactor, he adds. Even if the robot is not completely submerged in water, it will be working in a very wet environment. "In order to interface with humans [again] these robots also have to able to tolerate a high-pressure wash down," he says Inuktun makes several submersible models. Neither the Packbot nor the Warrior was designed to work in extreme heat or to be submerged in water, though they are able to function in up to meter or so of water, Trainer says. These limitations could pose challenges, especially given TEPCo's ongoing efforts to deliver water to its overheated fuel rods by any means, including fire hoses and airplane drops.


Seriously I feel like my head is going to explode,,, gonna out in the sunshine and take a walk with the dogs before my brains become poolium.



posted on Apr, 19 2011 @ 03:11 PM
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If we do not clean up our nuclear safety problems,
the future farms may all be like the ones talked about in this article.


Farming is moving indoors,
where the sun never shines,
where rainfall is irrelevant
and where the climate is always right


The perfect crop field could be inside a windowless building with meticulously controlled light, temperature, humidity, air quality and nutrition. It could be in a New York high-rise, a Siberian bunker or a sprawling complex in the Saudi desert.

Advocates say this, or something like it, may be an answer to the world’s food problems.
LINK


How sad as I so enjoy my gardening with the sun shining on me as I work in the great out of doors. There is nothing like putting your shovel into the ground and spading your soil each spring as you ready for planting. But then eating a big fresh salad is great too, no cesium on mine please!

Can it replace todays farming, I think not can you imagine the cost of growing corn and grains indoors!
I'm sure the elites could afford such foods if need be, but the rest of us not!
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posted on Apr, 19 2011 @ 03:21 PM
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Yes, it will be very sad when gardening and farming are no longer viable...guess I\we should starting finding other sources of food. Soylent green is closer than we think.

Des



posted on Apr, 19 2011 @ 03:31 PM
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Originally posted by AlaskanDad
How sad as I so enjoy my gardening with the sun shining on me as I work in the great out of doors. There is nothing like putting your shovel into the ground and spading your soil each spring as you ready for planting. But then eating a big fresh salad is great too, no cesium on mine please!


Highly over rated... all that sunshine will give you skin cancer
And with all those chemtrail chemicals falling with the rain and all the creepy crawlies you have to fight off eating your crops... A nice secure greenhouse is the way to go
And you can grow all year


Added bonus... you can run a ventilation system to your house and use all that clean fresh oxygen those plants give off to filter all the Co2 you spew out. They love the stuff. It's a great system and would even work on the moon.

No grime from car pollution settling on the leaves, no acid rain, no chemicals from space and no radioactive fall out to work about. No slugs, no pesky seed eating and fruit eating birds and other critters

Think about it... I am building mine this summer



posted on Apr, 19 2011 @ 03:35 PM
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That's hilarious. If they were smart they should let my kid drive the thing. He would get it in the reactor and have it do some tricks!



Originally posted by zorgon

Originally posted by OuttaHere
They need one of these:


Remember that story when NASA spent millions to make a pen that works in space and the Russians said "A pencil works just fine..." ?

Well...

At Chernobyl Russia went and got one of those RC toy tank models, strapped a camera and a detector onto it and sent it right up to the corium (Elephants Foot) to take photos and readings...



They go for around $37.00



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