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Originally posted by SFA437
reply to post by zorgon
Well the GoJ (Edano et. al.) just threw a sizeable portion of their population under the bus. I swear if this mother****er lives through this I am personally going to stab him and his cronies in the ****ing skull. There is no fuel for their cars FFS- how the hell are they going to leave... walk?? Oh wait they can hop an irradiated horse! Problem solved TEPCO style!
Originally posted by DancedWithWolves
Originally posted by IDBIT
At last it has gone main stream, yes people are waking up!
"Japan ups nuke crisis severity to match Chernobyl"
Unfortunately they have this story along with that one in their top 10 or so headlines today
Chernobyl tours offered 25 years after blast
Book your trip today link
"What is the CORE from reactor 3 doing to the bedrock below the plant?" Is it turning it into a mini-volcano? Is it destabilizing the already unstable seismic plates? Does anyone have any idea what might be happening?
NISA says est release of radiation from Fukushima is 10% of the Chernobyl disaster.
A man in his 40s, who was dispatched to Fukushima No. 1 from a partner of the plant's operator, Tokyo Electric Power Co. (TEPCO), said, "I did not want to go there. But if I reject the request, I will lose my job."
The daily pay is less than 20,000 yen ($236).
"I hear some construction workers were employed at a wage of several tens of thousands of yen per hour. But we are working on a conventional daily wage as our company has had cooperative relationships with TEPCO," the man said.
contamination in Europe are no longer “negligible,” according to CRIIRAD [Commission de Recherche et d'Information Indépendantes sur la Radioactivité], an independent French research body on radioactivity. …
The document, published on 7 April, advises against consuming rainwater and says vulnerable groups such as children and pregnant or breastfeeding women should avoid consuming vegetables with large leaves, fresh milk and creamy cheese.¸
The risks related to prolonged contamination among vulnerable groups of the population can no longer be considered “negligible” and it is now necessary to avoid “risky behaviour,” CRIIRAD claimed. …
NHK announcer again telling people to brace for quake Chiba, Ibaraki and Kanagawa.
BBC saying that it is only 1/10th radiation as Chernobyl!
we...the public had access to those cameras on bp's website.... is there some similar link to these cameras, so we can see, or watch whats going on?
Using common sense alone you can see this situation is far worse than Chernobyl.
Only one Chernobyl reactor blew, and it was only three months old with relatively little radiation. It burned out of control for only 10 days. Fukushima's have been operating for 40 years, and would hold about 30 times more radiation than Chernobyl.
Any exposure above natural (non ionizing) background radiation causes diseases which would have been preventable.
"No immediate harm" (The statement Tepco loves to use so much keeps coming into my head. Take a look at ANY of the medical issues above show me one that comes on right away.
Most Common Diseases From Ionizing Radiation: * leukemia * lymphoma * solid tumors or any organ * bone & blood disorders * lung cancer * breast cancer * endocrine disruption * reproductive abnormalities * accelerated aging process * birth defects * congenital malformations * kidney, liver damage. These diseases and mutations don't stop with us. If ionizing radiation enters our genes, not only does it cause irreversible damage to this generation, but to future generations, as evidenced by children being born years after Chernobyl.
The amount of natural Cosmic radiation we are exposed to in our daily lives is about 1 millisievert per year. Recently the Japanese Chief Cabinet Secretary admitted that 1,500 millisieverts, per hour, were spewing from Fukushima.
According to the World Nuclear Association Fifty millisieverts is the lowest cumulative annual dose for which there is evidence of radiation-related cancer in adults. When you ingest or inhale radioactive material it can go anywhere in your body and will stay there. Can that amount really be compared to a CT scan or X ray? In the 1950's researched showed that a single pelvic X-ray of a pregnant woman would double the rate of childhood leukemia in the unborn baby! If that X-ray were given in the first 3 months of pregnancy, that risked increased 10 times higher. Just 2 abdominal X-Rays to a male increase the risk of his children developing leukemia. CT scans are considerd to be low risks from radiation, yet a 40 year old woman has a 1 in 270 chance of getting cancer from a CT scan, a 20 year old has a 2 in 270 chance.
Once again, "No immediate danger".
In 1972 Dr Abram Petkau discovered that low levels of radiation, over a longer period of time, were more damaging than higher doses over a short period of time.
Dr Ernest Sternglass of University of Pittsburg presented the following infant mortality rate for the Pacific states, following chernobyl fallout in May 1986, just one month after Chernobyl: * May 1986 54% increase infant mortality in Washington state * May 1986 48% increase infant mortality in California compared to previous June * June 1986 245% increase deaths per thousand live births in Washington state * June 1986 900% increse infant mortality rate per live births in Massachusetts
Originally posted by Jrosh
reply to post by Fractured.Facade
Hello to all.... long long time lurker...first time poster...joined specifically for this.
I would like to say thank you for the wealth of real time information...and knowledge that has been generated in this thread, it never ceases to amaze me what this website is capable of...
I would like to know...there were pictures of guys infront of robot cameras, similar to the rovs of bp when the oil thing was going on; we...the public had access to those cameras on bp's website.... is there some similar link to these cameras, so we can see, or watch whats going on?
Then i wondered, its pretty nice and bright in some of those cameras (in the pic a few pages back) where exactly are these robots working? Surely those are not in the same reactors of which we all are concerned with...
Originally posted by okiecowboy
Welcome to ATS
nope as hard as this is to say BP has TEPCO beat in providing cams to watch with
Originally posted by bitbytebit
reply to post by rbrtj
Kind of irresponsible of you to post that without context.
the FAQ question was: Are there any groups of people that should be especially sensitive to radiation?
The answer is: Infants, pregnant women and women who are breastfeeding are particularly sensitive to radiation. However, levels being measured now are still many times below the risk for even these groups, even for people who drink rainwater. Drinking water levels are many times below this. At this time, there is no need to take extra precautions with regard to drinking water.
I know you will say that technically you were correct, but someone just reading your post and not the link might get the wrong idea. There are already people refusing to give their kids milk now, we don't need them to dehydrate their kids.
edit on 11-4-2011 by bitbytebit because: (no reason given)