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Japan declares 'nuclear emergency' after quake

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posted on Apr, 8 2011 @ 05:57 PM

Look at the difference between pics taken at 6:00 and 7:00 for today (dated 4/9) . Looks like smoke? Sorry, I didn't read up yet on how to embed a picture.

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posted on Apr, 8 2011 @ 05:58 PM

Originally posted by edball40
Very little info pertaining to Fukushima today, so let's swing it around and see what the U.S. Armed Forces are up to. We find that U.S. Dept of Energy will be responsible for testing airborne particles around Fukushima from 6 to 16 April in a 60km radius.

The Commander Naval Forces Japan is talking up Knowing your Immigration Requirements.

Commander Fleet Activities are Practices Emergency Evacuation for NEO

Yokota Airwing Commander comparing radiation in Yokota to Riverside Calif.

The only thing out of the Tokyo U.S. Embassy was the Ambassador addressing the troops aboard the Ronald Reagan a few days ago before the battle group departed the area, and the availability of Potassium Iodide tablets for distribution to U.S. citizens.

Is there a pattern here???

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Could that coincide with US citizens reporting military vehicles on that youtube comment page?

posted on Apr, 8 2011 @ 06:02 PM
reply to post by Redux

I think I see smoke/steam.........

posted on Apr, 8 2011 @ 06:06 PM
I thought information about radiation exposure to workers in a nuclear facility HAD to be public information. It sounds like this man has been told not to talk and wouldn't that be a violation?

How can we have safe nuclear power from public utilities when they have hidden information and have been called out on it by nearly every country and news organization around the world? To me, the nuclear industry has now damned themselves to extinction. If they cannot be trusted to be forthcoming with the truth in a nuclear emergency situation, they should be forbidden to have nuclear capabilities. It is our favorite excuse to deny nuclear energy to countries we wouldn't trust not to build a bomb. I no longer trust any company, any country, any operator of nuclear power. They conspire to withhold information. Can anyone deny that now?


A Tokyo Electric Power Co (TEPCO) employee refused in a recent interview to reveal how much radiation he has been exposed to during nearly a month dealing with Japan’s worst ever nuclear crisis inside the Fukushima Daiichi nuclear power complex.

‘‘I can’t tell you. It’s private information as well,’’ said Yasuki Murata, a 44-year-old TEPCO worker from the planning and public relations section for the plant, batting away repeated questions about the extent of his radiation exposure in a telephone interview Wednesday with Kyodo News.

Since the March 11 earthquake and tsunami crippled the plant, causing it to release radioactive materials into the environment, Murata has been staying inside a two-story antiseismic building on the plant’s premises whose few windows are all covered with lead plates to prevent radiation from penetrating inside.

The only time Murata goes outside is when trucks arrive at the building with food from the J-village soccer training facility around 20 kilometers away, which serves as the base in Fukushima Prefecture for dealing with the nuclear disaster, he said.

Do any of you trust the nuclear power companies in any country with your lives anymore?

Ladies and gentlemen - you have just witnessed a true, massive, conspiratorial cover-up of a deadly nuclear accident. It is no longer a theory. It is fact.

just more proof

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posted on Apr, 8 2011 @ 06:09 PM
reply to post by Procharmo

I must have missed that youtube page....

posted on Apr, 8 2011 @ 06:11 PM
reply to post by edball40

I missed it also can someone repost the link please?

posted on Apr, 8 2011 @ 06:16 PM
reply to post by rbrtj

In the comments

A lot of ppl been reporting trains with nothing but military vehicles going through our area. Of course, no one has pictures but enough ppl commenting about it to b worth mentioning. Also, on Wednesday something went thru our & surrounding towns. Two semis, w/ a police escort, fllatbed trailers & tarps covering the load held up traffic over 20 minutes everywhere it went. Of course, again, no one took pictures. Anyway, w/ reports of increased military presence all over, figure worth noting. wishtosurvive 9 hours ago

In Detroit area today we noticed a whole bunch of new army type vehicles being parked in an open field. They just showed up. TODnMO 22 hours ago 4

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posted on Apr, 8 2011 @ 06:17 PM

Originally posted by gigaherc

I just came to post these strange explosions, quickly went through last threads and I can see it is something unexplainable, am I right?

Really out-of-this-world and cinematic, if one asked me. It really looks like something straight out of sf movie.

And I must add... scary indeed.

Here are the vids from earlier in the thread

posted on Apr, 8 2011 @ 06:18 PM
reply to post by Procharmo

Thank you!! I almost went to Japan to get the info

posted on Apr, 8 2011 @ 06:18 PM

Originally posted by apacheman

In this assessment report by RST, based upon the most recent data from "INPO, GEH, EPRI, Naval Reactors (with Bettis and KAPL), and DOE/NE are these nuggets:

Unit 1:

"The volume of sea water injected to cool the core has left enough salt to fill the lower plenum to the core plate."

"damaged fuel that may have slumped to the bottom of the core and fuel in the lower region of the core are likely encased in salt and core flow is severely restricted and likely blocked...There is likely no flow inside the core barrel...Vessel temperature readings are likely metal temperature which lag actual conditions."

Units 2 & 3 are reported in similar states, with this addition:

"Fuel pool is heating up but is adequately cooled, and fuel may have been ejected from the pool (based on information from TEPCO of nuetron sources found up to 1 mile from the units, and the very high dose rate material that had to be bulldozed over between Units 3 & 4. It is also possible that the material could have come from Unit 4."

There's a lot more in the assessment, I suggest a thorough reading, especially between the lines.

I have been thinking about this for the last couple of days. Why is the area next to reactor 3 (Blue Box) cleared? and why are they trying to fill the spent material pool from the front not the cleared area on the side?

Well, as mention from other members and clearly stated in the RST assessment.
“..very high dose material had to be bulldozed over between Units 3 and 4..”

I’m guessing this section next to unit 3 (Blue Box) is the location. This would example the “moving pipe” mentioned earlier (somewhere between page 200-300). It would also explain why they are pumping water from the front not the side.

Google Map

The next interesting thing in the RST assessment was this comment.
“…(base on information from TEPCO of neutron sources found up to 1 mile from the units,…”

Using Google maps I circle what 1 mile would be from the reactor (Blue Circle). That is VERY far, definitely out to TEPCO boarder. For them to say “up to 1 Mile” I could imagine they tested beyond 1 mile.

posted on Apr, 8 2011 @ 06:20 PM
So it seems the only new info coming out today, is in the financial news. It appears PM Kan has closed ranks, and TEPCO around I know where the news blackout originated. Wonder who Kan is in bed with...Kan is NOT doing this on his own, he has some heavy hitters backing him up.

OR, it could mean that PM Kan has cut TEPCO out of the loop...IDK, can read it both ways...unfortunately, the article goes "poof" as in gone midway through it

* Wall Street Journal ASIA NEWS
* APRIL 8, 2011, 6:44 P.M. ET

Kan Cuts Out Bureaucrats
In Crisis, Japan's Leader Forged Path Around Career Officials, Raising Hackles


TOKYO—Japan's prime minister sidestepped the country's well-worn bureaucratic channels and created an ad hoc response team to the nuclear crisis with his own advisers—a move that angered Japan's cadre of career officials and has exposed the leader to charges that he has mismanaged the crisis.

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posted on Apr, 8 2011 @ 06:24 PM
reply to post by GhostR1der

still in time transit mode ...

but, I am not sure what " as bad as we think " means.
several things come into play here :

1) depth and placement
a) if you are trying to hide dumping in the ocean you find a place where the ocean currents will limit detection, and given the extreme pressure and ultra low temperatures at the bottom of the ocean mass and it's concetrations become important. remember that at the bottom of the ocean it snows methane and in deep places this methane "snow" cover is very deep the dense masses inside the drums and the relatively high heat ( nuclear waste tends to fall into the 35-55C temp range) would cause them to melt into the seafloor methane silt/snow, if/when the products leak they would have a tenancy to be driven down.In one sense it's a little like pissing in the snow

2) time
a)all that waste has a timetable for the deterioration of containment ( even the sub) and thusly a calculable release rate , IT IS NOT BEING RELEASE AS A FREE AGENT EN MASSE

3) global position
a) most life in the ocean is in the "shallow' water eco-system. Life at almost all levels (a few odd ocean vents are the rare extraordinary exceptions) in the ocean is dependent upon it. So depths, currents, tides and bio-accumulation are HUGE Bayesian variables in a shore side mass volumne dumping that has been ongoing for weeks . These things are immediately effecting the most sensitive parts of the marine eco-system , very much unlike 'hidden controlled dumping'.

4) control
a) this is uncontrolled dumping at shore levels the effects over time will display, even with massive diffusion/dilution, and effect that is exponential from 'normalization' and bio-accumulation on the order of the cube.

It is nice to try and compare criminal dumping that was by design trying to be hidden to uncontrolled millions of gallons of 'in direct contact with both cores and corium' water continually into shoreline waters, but the analogy is seriously flawed and a poor representation of the actual scale and scope of the current situation, which makes it misinformation if not simple lack of good thorough thought

posted on Apr, 8 2011 @ 06:25 PM
reply to post by rbrtj

You definitely do not want to go there!

Does anyone know if blow out panels damaged at Onagawa 3 have any significance?


Thursday's quake damages Onagawa nuclear plant

Tohoku Electric Power Company says Thursday night's strong earthquake caused water to overflow from spent fuel storage pools at one of its nuclear power plants. The power company reported on Friday that water had spilled onto the floor at all 3 reactors at the Onagawa nuclear power plant in Miyagi Prefecture. The amount of water spilled was 3.8 liters at the most.

The utility firm also found water leaks at 5 locations in the plant, including inside buildings housing the reactors.
The company added that blowout panels--devices designed to control pressure inside the buildings--were damaged at the turbine building of the Number 3 reactor.

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posted on Apr, 8 2011 @ 06:33 PM

Originally posted by burntheships
If someone who is experienced with these readings can translate, that might be helpful.
These pdf's are set to exclude highlight and copy of text.

I am near certain this information has not been in a news report yet.

We have also informed NISA on the results of seawater sampling survey
which has been implemented since April 2nd at three different points
within 15km area of the Fukushima Daiichi Nuclear Power Plant.

The data of three nuclides (Iodine-131, Cesium-134 and Cesium-137) will be
reported as fixed data. Other nuclides figures are to be reinvestigated by
improved measures under NISA instruction on April 1st


Appendix 1 - 11
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For anybody analysing these reports, you can toggle the days up 1 day down 2 days. I’m not an expert but when I look at April 4-April 7 the number keep going up.

/images/110405e12.pdf -> April 4
/images/110406e12.pdf -> April 5
/images/110407e12.pdf -> April 6
/images/110408e12.pdf -> April 7 – this one is in a new format

posted on Apr, 8 2011 @ 06:33 PM
reply to post by DancedWithWolves

A violation to not divulge the info regarding the amount of exposure? It's not in their vocabulary to disgrace the company they work for.

Having lived in Sasebo for 3 years, I was always fond of the lower rank's discipline and determination. Their work ethic was beyond reproach. But when the boss man approached me with an envelope stuff with an unknown number of 10,000 yen notes, I politely turned him away, and through an interpretor explained that's not how the Navy did business. It was nothing more than a token of appreciation for future contracts pure and simple. I still encouraged work be assigned to his company, they were that good, but never allowed myself to be caught up in their politics and corruption.

posted on Apr, 8 2011 @ 06:34 PM
This is ridiculous! There have been radioactive explosions, leaks and meltdowns, this should still be on the news as it is a concern to everyones planet! I think they switched from pumping to dumping. I mean think about it, if you were crazy and in charge and got a wild hair up your @$$ & decided to dump deadly x1000 levels of radioactive water back in the ocean then i would want it more dispersed and start dumping some as well.. plus then you could say that you stopped pumping. Has Redneck spoke to what he feels those flashes of light in the webcam are? By the way people think about it.. another big earthquake/aftershock (??was it one or two I hear different things) a big flash of light shown to the world & now suddenly it seems MM is not interested. HMMMM I WONDER

posted on Apr, 8 2011 @ 06:40 PM
reply to post by DancedWithWolves

Rational optimists reckon they were power cables and transformers. I think they were "Earthquake lights" a little known phenomena which has been photographed and reported before. But the lights of Sendai may be the first filming on MSM so we know it was real. Others HAARP and some UFO's!

Earthquake lights

There is a video of another light at a Japanese volcano but I think it's fake.

Oh I forgot the possibility of criticality!
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posted on Apr, 8 2011 @ 06:42 PM
reply to post by Destinyone

That link went an abridged story. Try this link
Hmmm, same strangeness happened with this link.

This is a cut paste of the whole piece, will probably get cut but here it goes:

TOKYO—Japan's prime minister sidestepped the country's well-worn bureaucratic channels and created an ad hoc response team to the nuclear crisis with his own advisers—a move that angered Japan's cadre of career officials and has exposed the leader to charges that he has mismanaged the crisis.

Tossing aside the disaster-response system envisioned by Japanese law, Prime Minister Naoto Kan also created his own emergency-response body to direct orders to Tokyo Electric Power Co., the operator of the quake-hobbled Fukushima Daiichi nuclear-power complex.

With his moves in the weeks after Japan's March 11 earthquake and tsumani, Mr. Kan is essentially test-driving a new way of governing Japan, where for decades career officials have taken the lead in making policy.

Critics say the prime minister's determination to call the shots in Japan's response to Fukushima Daiichi has exacerbated the crisis—including, some argue, delaying early efforts to head off explosions at the complex's overheating reactors.

"If they had stuck with the protocols we designed, the responsibilities were clearly defined in the manual," said Nobuyuki Fukushima, a lawmaker from the ruling Democratic Party of Japan, who as a bureaucrat helped to write nuclear-emergency plans that Mr. Kan largely jettisoned. "All that is in utter confusion. Nobody knows who should make what decision."

Tepco and Japanese regulators have come under criticism over their response to the disaster and earlier incidents. Mr. Kan has cited those stumbles as justification for asserting his control of the situation. Those around the prime minister say he had no choice but to take a firm hand.

"Under the usual bureaucratic system, with their way of taking time, there's no way we could respond to this disaster," Yukio Edano, the chief cabinet secretary and Mr. Kan's top aide, said in an interview.

Among other things, Mr. Kan takes credit for helping get Tokyo firefighters to the site on the weekend of March 19-20, when they sprayed thousands of tons of water to cool pools that store spent nuclear fuel rods.

His level of personal involvement in crisis management has surprised political insiders.From the day of the quake, Mr. Kan showed a keen interest in the stricken nuclear plant, asking during one conversation whether helicopters could airlift emergency power generators to the plant. He got on his cellphone to find out the generators' size and weight, said Kenichi Shimomura, one of his aides.

"I remember thinking how unusual it was for a prime minister to inquire about the size of a battery," Mr. Shimomura said.

Mr. Kan's DPJ came to power in 2009 after campaigning on the principle of putting elected politicians in charge. Mr. Kan's determination to push career officials out of the driver's seat amid Japan's crisis has a clear political dimension in the bureaucracy-heavy country.

Outside the political fray, many observers praise Mr. Kan's principles. Yet they also say he stumbled in practice by trying to do too much himself. "The Democratic Party has a weak grasp of crisis management," said Nihon University political scientist Tomoaki Iwai. "They're amateurs, and that worked against them."

Mr. Kan has served in parliament since 1980, usually in the opposition. As health minister in 1996, he exposed a coverup in the distribution of HIV-tainted blood products and forced officials and company executives to take responsibility. To Mr. Kan, the Fukushima nuclear accident looked like another unholy alliance between big business and bureaucrats.

A 1999 law on nuclear-disaster response calls for a headquarters led by the prime minister. Mr. Kan followed the law in setting up the body. But Mr. Edano, his top aide, says the prime minister then had to wait for information to rise through layers of bureaucracy.

"It's like there's a 'nuclear village' or a certain sort of guild-like atmosphere among the specialists," Mr. Kan told Communist Party leader Kazuo Shii last week, according to a transcript released by the Communist Party.

Within a few days of the quake, Mr. Kan had devised his own plan. Barreling into Tepco headquarters at 5:30 a.m. on March 15, he told executives he was setting up a joint emergency headquarters at Tepco itself. The new body would be staffed by Mr. Kan's aides, allowing them to get information directly from Tepco and give orders on the spot.

Such improvisation appears to run against guidelines from the International Atomic Energy Agency, which says countries should establish in advance a "command and control system" with a "clear allocation of responsibilities."

While Mr. Kan's side cites the dispatch of Tokyo firefighters as an example of the new system in action, his critics point to an earlier episode in which a police riot-control truck failed to tame overheating spent-fuel pools.

Katsuei Hirasawa, a former police official who is now an opposition lawmaker, said the prime minister's office and some ruling-party members told him that Mr. Kan's office gave the order to send police trucks in first. "They ought to take the blame for it," he said. "Even a child knows that the fire department is the one that specializes in spraying water."

Said Noriyuki Shikata, a spokesman for the Cabinet Office: "Some people may have thought we should have called in the fire department first. But we have taken steps that we believe are the best at any given time."

The two sides also disagree about who was responsible for the slow release of radiation data. The government's Nuclear Safety Commission waited until March 23 to disclose a threat of high radiation even outside the 12-mile evacuation zone around Fukushima Daiichi. The data prompted the government to offer evacuation help to people up to 18 miles from the plant.

Mr. Kan's aides say the prime minister personally intervened to get the data out by summoning the commission head and another regulator to a March 22 meeting where he expressed frustration about bureaucratic turf wars.

Mr. Fukushima, the lawmaker and former official, says that if everyone had been following the protocols, there would have been an "immediate release" of the information. A Nuclear Safety Commission spokesman, Yuta Tonegawa, attributed the delay to a lack of key data and the commissioners' busy schedules.

Controversy surrounds Mr. Kan's visit to Fukushima Daiichi around 7 a.m. on March 12, the day after the quake. Passing by workers sleeping on the floor wrapped in blankets, Mr. Kan sat down with the two top officials at the plant in a small conference room for a 20-minute meeting. He asked technical questions and offered advice on how to tame the overheating reactors, according to one aide.

The question is whether the visit delayed venting of the No. 1 reactor. By 10 p.m. the previous day, Nuclear and Industrial Safety Agency regulators had projected that the fuel core inside that reactor would start melting in the early hours of the next day and called for urgent venting to release pressure, according to a timeline released by the agency. The venting began a few hours after Mr. Kan left.

Mr. Kan denied his visit caused delay. Government officials blamed the difficulty in manually opening valves after the loss of electricity and communications problems.

Bureaucrats' complaints grew so loud that a longtime adviser to Mr. Kan, Hokkaido University political scientist Jiro Yamaguchi, says he decided last week to ask the prime minister's office for an urgent appointment, and secured 40 minutes in Mr. Kan's office. He and a colleague urged their old friend to tap the resources of bureaucrats, he said.

"I told him it was time to stop the blame game," said Mr. Yamaguchi. He said the encounter ended with frustration, as Mr. Kan again complained that he couldn't trust bureaucrats to give him the whole story.

Mr. Kan's aides have showed signs of taking the advice, restoring a meeting of top bureaucrats that the ruling DPJ abolished after taking office. The group is coordinating policy on earthquake relief and recovery.

Kozo Watanabe, a longtime lawmaker from Fukushima prefecture who holds the title of supreme adviser in the DPJ, says the Kan administration may need to revisit some of the old ways. "Some of the things that we got rid of amid calls for strong political leadership, including the vice ministerial meetings, need to be brought back to life," he said.

One of the new advisers Mr. Kan hired, retired Lt. Gen. Noboru Yamaguchi, says his job now is to maximize use of officials' expertise. "We're not replacing bureaucrats," says Gen. Yamaguchi, now a professor at the National Defense Academy. "Eighty percent of the people we advisers talk to are bureaucrats."

Write to Yuka Hayashi at and Norihiko Shirouzu at
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posted on Apr, 8 2011 @ 06:45 PM
The webcam image from the seems easier to see. The weather forecast on that site also says precipitation for Fukushima.


The site also includes dispersion models for:

* ZAMG: dispersion model
* Iodine 131
* Xenon 133
* Caesium 137

Cloud spread Fukushima

* EURAD: dispersion model
* Caesium 137 surface
* Caesium 137 2500m
* Caesium 137 5000m

Cloud spread Fukushima

* FLEXPART: dispersion model
* Iodine 131
* Xenon 133
* Caesium 137

Cloud spread Fukushima

* HYSPLIT: air parcel trajectories
* ensemble
* different heights



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