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Japan declares 'nuclear emergency' after quake

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posted on Apr, 8 2011 @ 07:03 AM
This light looks like that big bright one arround the volcano....btw... was this explained?

posted on Apr, 8 2011 @ 07:18 AM
Latest situation update

The operator said water leaked out of spent fuel pools of the plant's reactor 1 and 2,

and other parts of the plant.

I am not sure what the last sentence cover
Edit: Found it, new post further down

Onagawa nuclear plant

Situation Update No. 79 On 08.04.2011 at 03:30 GMT+2 Waters leaks were found at Onagawa nuclear plant in northeast Japan after a strong aftershock hit Japan on Thursday, but there has been no change in radiation levels outside the plant, Tohoku Electric Power , the operator of the plant, said. The operator said water leaked out of spent fuel pools of the plant's reactor 1 and 2, and other parts of the plant.

Fukushima nuclear plant

Situation Update No. 78 On 08.04.2011 at 03:23 GMT+2 The Japanese government might issue evacuation advice to those in areas beyond the 30-kilometre radius around a damaged nuclear power plant, news reports said Friday. Chief Cabinet Secretary Yukio Edano told a news conference Thursday that nuclear experts were discussing the levels of cumulative radiation to determine which evacuation instructions should be issued, Jiji Press reported Friday. Tokyo had already told residents within 20 kilometres of the Fukushima Daiichi Nuclear Power Plant to evacuate following radiation leaks from the station, which was crippled by the March 11 earthquake and ensuing tsunami. Residents in areas 20-30 kilometres from the plant have been advised to leave voluntarily. They had been previously instructed to stay indoors. The government said the current evacuation standards are based on the assumption that the plant would spew massive amounts of radiation in a short period of time. So the government had not taken into account effects of long-term cumulative radiation, Jiji reported.

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posted on Apr, 8 2011 @ 07:21 AM
Speaking of geiger counters:

Sushi Restaurant Offers Geiger Counter to Test Food

The hottest new dining accessory in Taiwan's sushi restaurants this season? The Geiger counter, apparently. Peony, a fancy Taipei restaurant, now has a handheld radiation detector on-hand, so diners can inspect food before digging in. The restaurant picked up the device after diners expressed concerns over leaking nuclear reactors in Japan following the recent 9.0 earthquake.


Now why didn't I think of that?

posted on Apr, 8 2011 @ 07:26 AM
Strange sentence in an article "Leak at Fukushima Daiichi’s reactor No 2 appears plugged, but water dumps continue as radioactivity levels in local fish and California rainwater rise" about the Fukushima disaster published by Bellona foundation:

"Technicians bombed the reac"

It is an unfinished sentence. I wonder if "reac" means nuclear reactors? And then, how and whit what it was bombed? Maybe they mean "water bombed" but it could also refer to that some technician was drunk or on drugs, "bombed". What do you think?

posted on Apr, 8 2011 @ 07:28 AM
reply to post by borutp

Not really, there is also no mentioning of it in the MSM.
There must be damage of some sort.

posted on Apr, 8 2011 @ 07:33 AM
This is the event description from Onagawa nuclear plant on

Water spills and water leaks have been reported at a nuclear power station in northeastern Japan after a 7.1-magnitude earthquake overnight. Tohoku Electric Power Company, which runs the Onagawa Nuclear Power Plant in Miyagi Prefecture, said water had spilled onto the floor at all three of the plant's reactors. The company also said it found water leaks at five locations in the plant, including inside buildings housing the reactors.

The operator said the blowout panels, devices designed to control pressure inside the buildings, were damaged at reactor No. 3. The plant's operations have been suspended since a 9-magnitude earthquake on March 11. At least two people have died and more than 100 were injured by the April 7 aftershock. The Fukushima Daiichi nuclear plant, which was severely damaged by the March 11 earthquake and tsunami, suffered no serious damage but workers struggling with repair work were briefly evacuated.

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posted on Apr, 8 2011 @ 08:40 AM
Re: the bright blue flashes during yesterday's aftershock in Japan.

Was it this?

Criticality accidents report issued

LOS ALAMOS, N.M., July 19, 2000 — Since 1945 there have been 60 criticality accidents world-wide with varying levels of severity, from the most recent, a September 1999 accident in Japan that resulted in the deaths of two workers, to the very first fatal accident during the WWII Manhattan Project. All of these criticality accidents are now chronicled in a new report from the Department of Energy's Los Alamos National Laboratory

One of the report's principal authors, Thomas McLaughlin, of the Laboratory's Nuclear Criticality Safety group, says the report serves not only to reconstruct criticality accidents but to also offer information central to the prevention of accidents and the most effective response should an accident occur. "The most important sections of the report deal with observations and lessons learned from process criticality accidents," said McLaughlin. "All criticality accidents are dominated by design, managerial and operational failure, it's important that these issues be the focus for accident prevention."

A criticality accident occurs when the minimum amount of fissile material required to sustain a chain reaction is accidentally brought together. For example, when the nucleus of Uranium-235 disintegrates, two or three neutrons are released, and each is capable of causing another nucleus to disintegrate. However, if the total mass of the U-235 is insufficient to sustain a chain reaction, the neutrons simply escape. In most criticality accidents this chain reaction is very short lived, causing a neutron population spike and resultant radiation, heat and, in many cases, an ethereal "blue flash," a phenomenon of the air surrounding a neutron burst becoming ionized and giving off a flash of blue light.

emphasis added.

Los Alamos National Laboratory

posted on Apr, 8 2011 @ 08:42 AM
reply to post by MedievalGhost

Glad to know that you are safe. How easy is it to use and have you tried it on Bananas or Brazil nuts yet?

posted on Apr, 8 2011 @ 08:46 AM

Fear, controls people. The US has performed false flag attacks before, fact.

The US can now remove an undefined amount of irradiated materials for use in a dirty bomb.
I wonder what the odds are that all of this material is going to end up safely stored.. Wouldn't be hard to have some go missing now.. they can say they dumped it.

Suddenly, 50 mSv of material gets dumped in a subway in new york, "no immediate casualties", little exposure and a lot of fear...

Hope not.

posted on Apr, 8 2011 @ 09:00 AM
reply to post by DancedWithWolves
There where no nuclear plant in the area of the blue flashes, so that can not have been it.
If you are refering to the flashes recorded during the after quake yesterday.

posted on Apr, 8 2011 @ 09:06 AM
reply to post by zorgon

Radioactive workers bodies encased and have been protectively covered for a burial at sea?

posted on Apr, 8 2011 @ 09:10 AM

Originally posted by windwaker
reply to post by rbrtj

Higher radiation levels where you are most likely.

I'm not an expert, but dutchsinse has been reporting on radiation dispersion forecasts over the past few weeks, and a lot of the iodine-131 and cesium-137 emissions are coming down hard in the pacific northwest. But by now iodine-131 and cesium-137 has spread throughout the world.

As far as pu-239 goes, it's supposed to be heavy so I don't think any will get over here yet. But again, I'm not an expert.

Have you ever seen footage of it raining fish or earthworms? It happens....

posted on Apr, 8 2011 @ 09:15 AM
reply to post by gr82m8okdok

They can't burn or bury the bodies because they are contaminated, so that makes sense.

posted on Apr, 8 2011 @ 09:16 AM

Originally posted by hack2011
I think he was talking about the big ball of white/blue earlier that appeared during the 7.4 eq being a plasma ball. I searched for some info about plasma ball, but only got related things about fusion?

The only thing i can think of what he is talking about is from this DFO poster on GLP about nuking the plant to stop the runaway fission:

Im pretty up to speed on the reality of the situation, and was active in the referenced thread.

On the notion of this being an infinite thing or a virus, it is really neither. Just a predictable fission process.

The Soviets designed a doomsday weapon, a weapon designed to self propagate rare earth metals, split them up to continue the neutron propagation, and destroy the planet, whether any of them were still alive or not. I encourage everyone to google this doomsday device. It was quite real. Some say it still is..

The SALT treaty obligated both the US and the USSR to destroy many weapons, and later the US offered to buy the weapons grade material, enforce its use as civilian fuel. MOX isnt always just as its described. Some of it had some different mixtures of isotopes, is not 95% uranium dioxide and 5% plutonium. For obvious reasons Im not going to get into the ratios and materials, but I will tell you this enriched MOX is great at making other isotopes propagate neutrons, very desirable to breed yet more fuel, easily propagate weapons grade material without the need for very expensive centrifuges.

This is what we have in #3. It is conceivable, but not too likely it could run away, and react til it ran out of a pretty common set of elements in Earths crust. It would be doomsday.

Its much like what they didnt tell you at Chernobyl. After the initial explosion, and fire, the core was still fissioning, and unlike in Japan, where this cant happen, it threatened to explode, as in atomic explosion. A crew took a T-72 tank and drove it right thru the reactor core to disperse the core to avoid criticality. This cant be done in Japan, as the cores are in very robust containment structures, far too strong for a tank to break thru. Chernobyl had no such containment.

Lots of talk about nuking the place. This would be a huge disaster, and release a large amount of radionuclides into the atmosphere, where they would setlle out all over the northern hemisphere. The only way this is indicated is if #3 goes critical, starts steady fissioning, and maintains it. The point is to disperse the atoms in the core away from each other, stop the reaction at all costs..

Boron will stop the reaction, and has been employed extensively, especially at the spent fuel rods, in most of that water you have seen sprayed. At this point the temps are far too high to put boron in aqueous solution inside the containment vessels, as the steam explosion would blow them sky high. Boron pellets is another option, and will stop the reaction dead, but how to get them into the core, where its too hot in both temp and rads for either humans or robots to work is the problem.

They are gonna melt til they cool, and its gonna take weeks, or months. Hopefully they will do it on their own, with little intervention, and not hit the water table, where again, boom, radionuclides are injected strongly into the air.

No one really knows how it will play, but Obomba is closely monitoring the situation..

Originally posted by AlphaExray
reply to post by Aeons
Tick Tock. That my friends was a plasma ball. What you are seeing, is all part of the reactors decay cycle. We discussed it here pages ago, when it was just wee little confined "neutron beams".

No use pouring the concrete now, that will just make things worse. Only a few options left, and two maybe three weeks tops before this goes very sour. That's what happens when you neglect your science. You get monsters like Eastlund and monstrosities like Fukashima.

Maybe the Russians will be able to get this under control.

For the record, for all those who are actually concerned for their safety, if there is a radiation scare in your part of the world, be calm. Your eyes are not going to fall out of your head. Radioactive fallout is a storm like any other, it should be respected, and there are simple things you can do to protect yourself. You will be exposed, no matter what you do, but your body is a lot tougher than you think.

Just try to stay indoors, but not in the basement. Infact, avoid the basement like the plague. Use lots of water, wash often, the house, the car, yourself. Moving water is your best friend, using water keeps it moving through city systems, and there is no shortage of water this year. Stagnant water basins, pools etc should be avoided.

Don't take Iodide pills, you won’t know if they are legit or counterfeit, and ether way, they are fairly toxic to your liver, and will only protect you from one of a myriad of radioactive isotopes that come from these types of events. You need to keep yourself as healthy as possible. Take vitamins, drink lots of fluids, eat reasonable amounts of low residue protein like eggs. If you live within proximity of a body of water contaminated with radioactive Iodine, small amounts of sea Urchin can supply the body with just as much protection as the pills. Small amounts!!

Very small amounts of 24k gold, less than 10mg/person, when ground to a fine powder, mixed into a bread roll, and consumed with wine can dramatically improve your chances of survival. If you have too much, or it contains alloys like silver nickel lead etc, it is quite toxic for the body. The bread acts to increase the exposure time of the gold to the acids in the stomach. Gold is very very hard to decompose chemically (one of its' finer qualities) so the longer it sits in acid, the more likely some small amounts will enter the blood stream as gold ions. These ions lodge in the liver, where they will stay for the next five to seven years (one of the reasons why gold is toxic). Gold has a wonderful way of deflecting gamma particles, and helps in stabilizing blood plasma electrostacticaly.

Standard breather masks work on a hepa Micronic filtration basis, which traps radioactive material close to your face, and do not filter out plutonium dust which is in a submicronic state. If you must wear a breather, one with positive ventilation, like those used for sandblast technicians would be better. The best cure is to keep yourself clean, use a hospital mask if you have them, and dispose of it away from your living space. Relax on electronic devices, especially burst transmitting devices. Apparently they increase an individual’s rate of exposure significantly.

Good luck!

While I am saying this is a bad scenario, and possibly a doomsday scenario, it won't be because of an uncontrollable fission of the earth (LOL), otherwise jupiter would be our second sun when that comet hit it a few years back. Comets and asteroids cause nuclear reactions when they strike, initially fusion on impact which turns into fission of unstable by-product isotopes. Also an atom bomb is a stupid idea, a bit of c4 would do the trick of dispersal. If they get their radiation sheeting installed they could probably do a small c4 blast without worry of radiation spread.
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posted on Apr, 8 2011 @ 09:20 AM
reply to post by Marrr

All of it will get here, as in the isotopes no matter what their atomic weight is, though the heavier it is the less there'll be in the air as more will get scrubbed by the rain plus it is harder to get those particles suspended in the first place. I think we'll get our plutonium here though it'll be dispersed in our seafood and in our seawater.
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posted on Apr, 8 2011 @ 09:25 AM
I'm on page 606 trying to catch up before I have to go to work but I wanted to post this link in case it hasn't made it In to the thread yet:

PDF of current situational assessment

It's only 15 pages and I don't think there are any images that would cause bloat but I haven't read all of it yet.

It may provide some good info to our in house experts.

posted on Apr, 8 2011 @ 10:03 AM
Good Morning Friends. more ...ripples...

WORLD NEWS 2011/04/08 at 8:44 am EDT

China concerned at Japan's prolonged nuclear crisis

By Yoko Kubota
and Yoko NishikawaPosted 2011/04/08 at 8:44 am EDT

TOKYO, Apr. 8, 2011 (Reuters) — China said on Friday it was concerned at Japan pumping radioactive water into the sea from its crippled nuclear power plant, reflecting growing international unease at the month-long crisis triggered by a massive earthquake and tsunami.
A chef (L) cooks for guests as an employee helps shine a flashlight during a power shutdown after Thursday's 7.4 magnitude earthquake at the lobby of Hotel New Esashi in Oshu, Iwate prefecture, April 8, 2011. REUTERS/Toru Hanai

China will "closely" monitor Japan's actions to regain control of the plant, the foreign ministry said, demanding Tokyo provide swift and accurate information on the crisis which began on March 11 when a magnitude 9 earthquake and tsunami struck.

The comments came as a Chinese quality watchdog said it had detected 10 cases of ships, aircraft or cargo arriving from Japan with higher than normal levels of radiation since mid-March.

While Japan struggles to regain control of the nuclear plant in the worst crisis since Chernobyl, it also faced calls to revive its economy, rocked by the triple disaster, to prevent a knock-on impact on the global economy.

Two personal comments...and one observation.

1., P+ssing off China, is not recommended.

2.,The rest of the world is taking notice...but, sadly, it's concern for their own economic butts, not a world wide nuclear disaster.
Observation...N.Korea has been deafening silent on this catastrophe. This scares me a little.


posted on Apr, 8 2011 @ 10:21 AM
The thin veneer of confidence from the Japanese people, is wearing very very thin after latest 7.1 earth quake. Maybe now, they will start to grow a voice, in demanding their elected officials be honest with them.

ICHINOSEKI, Japan – Shoppers emptied store shelves, traffic snarled with stoplights knocked out and drivers waited in long lines to buy gasoline in a new wave of anxiety Friday after a magnitude-7.1 aftershock struck disaster-weary northeastern Japan.

Nearly a half-million homes were without electricity after the latest tremor, which dealt another setback for those struggling to recover from the earthquake-spawned tsunami that wiped out hundreds of miles of the northeastern coast last month and killed as many as 25,000 people.

"I feel helpless. I am back to square one," said Ryoichi Kubo, 52, who had just finally reopened his gas station in hard-hit Iwate prefecture (state) after the power outage and prolonged fuel shortage that followed the March 11 tsunami. Friday, he was again without electricity, his four gas pumps shut down.

Power remained out Friday across much of northern Japan, including areas far inland, and homes were without gas and water. Gasoline was again scarce.

Convenience stores sold out of basics like water and snack foods, and supermarkets switched back to rationing purchases.

In Ichinoseki, 240 miles (390 kilometers) northeast of Tokyo, lines of 30 or more people formed outside the Marue supermarket starting when it opened at 9 a.m. With power out, each customer was escorted through the aisles by an employee with a flashlight and a pad, who jotted down the price of each item.

"I'm so tired, I just want to buy some chocolate," said Yuka Sato, 27, who patiently waited in line with her neighbors.

And, the people are beginning to see that no one will help them, they must help themselves, and each other.

Most local businesses were closed. Restaurant owner Suzuki Koya, 47, bought a small gas stove and made a free meal for locals in a big boiling pot.

"I saw the meat at the supermarket and I thought, we should do a hot pot," he said. "It's good to keep warm in times like these."

In her efforts to "save face, Japan has, shamed the good people of Japan. IMO.


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posted on Apr, 8 2011 @ 10:21 AM

Originally posted by DestinyoneTwo personal comments...and one observation.

1., P+ssing off China, is not recommended.

2.,The rest of the world is taking notice...but, sadly, it's concern for their own economic butts, not a world wide nuclear disaster.
Observation...N.Korea has been deafening silent on this catastrophe. This scares me a little.

Des That never occurred to me.

If Lil Kim's Empire starts feeling threatened by this runaway radiation. And they think that they can fix it.... Oh.....that's not good.

N. Korea doesn't need a whole lot of oomph in their nukes to get them across a strait you can water ski across.

posted on Apr, 8 2011 @ 10:30 AM
reply to post by gr82m8okdok

Radioactive workers bodies encased and have been protectively covered for a burial at sea?

why would you need a war ship escort for that?

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