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Japan declares 'nuclear emergency' after quake

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posted on Apr, 7 2011 @ 02:22 AM
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Originally posted by notsofunnyguy
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I thought I read/saw someone post that it updated hourly. I just checked the link and it was at 16:00:57.


Yeah your right, I jumped the gun.... it does up date hourly Thanks for the info and keeping track.




posted on Apr, 7 2011 @ 02:23 AM
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I hope I'm wrong, but it wouldn't surprise me at this point.



posted on Apr, 7 2011 @ 02:25 AM
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posted on Apr, 7 2011 @ 02:26 AM
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I imagine the area under the explosions is being filled with corium like Redneck believes.
I hope that dissipates the heat also.



posted on Apr, 7 2011 @ 02:28 AM
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The shotgun effect....... I'm glad that they pointed that cannon perfectly straight up.
I also hope the other guns are straight up also, if not that thing could blow into the ocean or to Tokyo etc.

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posted on Apr, 7 2011 @ 02:34 AM
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Originally posted by silent thunder
I'll just leave this here:




What time is that .... UTC or local to Japan?



posted on Apr, 7 2011 @ 02:48 AM
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Originally posted by burntheships

Originally posted by TheRedneck
reply to post by ikonoklast

It is basically vindication IMO. There is no way the corium from reactor #3 is inside that building. All that is left of the RPV now is a huge vertical piece of pipe. I now believe that the posters who were saying they thought they saw the lid of the reactor in the explosion were probably right.



I think at this point I must add....a picture is worth a thousand words.







Reactor 3's explosion was the bluntest piece of media spin I have ever witnessed. Non scientific individuals all saw what looked like an "atomic explosion". The first piece of narrative (MSM) voice over said "don't worry it's just steam and the panels are supposed to come off".

After that the masses switched to Pop idol because everything was fine.



posted on Apr, 7 2011 @ 02:56 AM
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Originally posted by VinceH Now, I know radiation has adverse effects on a lot of materials, but unless the numbers are way out of wack (I'd guesstimate by at least a 1000 times), I don't think it would be enough to have that affect on structural materials?





Originally posted by Zorgon maybe because of THIS? 07-APR-2011 02:40:48 36.51 140.83 4.9 48.5 NEAR EAST COAST OF HONSHU, JAPAN 06-APR-2011 16:25:41 38.34 142.14 4.8 46.4 NEAR EAST COAST OF HONSHU, JAPAN 06-APR-2011 13:54:51 37.65 141.47 5.4 56.2 NEAR EAST COAST OF HONSHU, JAPAN 06-APR-2011 12:56:55 36.72 140.45 4.9 40.6 NEAR EAST COAST OF HONSHU, JAPAN 06-APR-2011 06:07:02 37.34 142.39 4.9 34.1 OFF EAST COAST OF HONSHU, JAPAN 06-APR-2011 05:54:26 38.37 142.08 4.6 39.1 NEAR EAST COAST OF HONSHU, JAPAN 06-APR-2011 03:14:12 37.35 144.44 4.7 40.7 OFF EAST COAST OF HONSHU, JAPAN 06-APR-2011 01:51:28 37.71 144.61 4.7 40.1 OFF EAST COAST OF HONSHU, JAPAN 05-APR-2011 22:01:59 38.40 142.16 5.0 19.1 NEAR EAST COAST OF HONSHU, JAPAN 05-APR-2011 19:47:32 35.48 142.92 5.0 36.6 OFF EAST COAST OF HONSHU, JAPAN 05-APR-2011 19:43:40 39.82 142.11 4.7 47.8 NEAR EAST COAST OF HONSHU, JAPAN 05-APR-2011 19:11:32 37.75 144.47 4.6 41.1 OFF EAST COAST OF HONSHU, JAPAN 05-APR-2011 14:41:43 36.26 140.58 4.7 14.0 NEAR EAST COAST OF HONSHU, JAPAN 05-APR-2011 09:08:53 36.59 140.40 4.6 37.3 NEAR EAST COAST OF HONSHU, JAPAN 05-APR-2011 04:25:29 38.88 142.39 4.8 46.8 NEAR EAST COAST OF HONSHU, JAPAN 05-APR-2011 01:29:11 39.76 141.94 4.6 43.3 EASTERN HONSHU, JAPAN 04-APR-2011 13:11:31 39.28 142.69 4.9 39.0 NEAR EAST COAST OF HONSHU, JAPAN 04-APR-2011 09:39:10 37.04 142.08 5.1 18.5 OFF EAST COAST OF HONSHU, JAPAN 04-APR-2011 08:42:32 37.83 142.49 4.9 43.5 OFF EAST COAST OF HONSHU, JAPAN 04-APR-2011 08:38:24 37.80 142.58 5.0 31.8 OFF EAST COAST OF HONSHU, JAPAN 04-APR-2011 06:12:56 39.17 143.47 4.7 25.5 OFF EAST COAST OF HONSHU, JAPAN 04-APR-2011 06:02:13 37.10 144.13 4.8 36.1 OFF EAST COAST OF HONSHU, JAPAN 03-APR-2011 19:07:36 37.40 144.71 4.7 38.8 OFF EAST COAST OF HONSHU, JAPAN 03-APR-2011 14:53:26 37.89 142.08 4.9 47.7 OFF EAST COAST OF HONSHU, JAPAN 03-APR-2011 13:18:08 36.78 142.13 5.0 35.7 OFF EAST COAST OF HONSHU, JAPAN 03-APR-2011 12:57:38 37.26 141.36 4.9 35.2 NEAR EAST COAST OF HONSHU, JAPAN 03-APR-2011 12:43:20 35.45 142.96 4.8 33.1 OFF EAST COAST OF HONSHU, JAPAN 03-APR-2011 07:51:04 35.84 141.76 4.6 26.2 NEAR EAST COAST OF HONSHU, JAPAN 03-APR-2011 07:38:46 37.62 141.57 5.4 57.3 NEAR EAST COAST OF HONSHU, JAPAN 03-APR-2011 07:17:11 35.40 143.15 4.6 25.4 OFF EAST COAST OF HONSHU, JAPAN 03-APR-2011 03:09:11 36.87 142.03 5.1 31.1 OFF EAST COAST OF HONSHU, JAPAN 02-APR-2011 19:06:21 39.76 143.99 4.6 31.9 OFF EAST COAST OF HONSHU, JAPAN 02-APR-2011 18:36:20 44.10 139.74 4.4 227.4 EASTERN SEA OF JAPAN 02-APR-2011 15:21:48 37.86 143.47 4.8 43.9 OFF EAST COAST OF HONSHU, JAPAN 02-APR-2011 15:02:50 39.10 143.04 4.8 33.8 OFF EAST COAST OF HONSHU, JAPAN 02-APR-2011 14:38:09 37.10 140.71 4.8 14.6 EASTERN HONSHU, JAPAN 02-APR-2011 10:22:58 36.82 140.48 4.6 28.2 NEAR EAST COAST OF HONSHU, JAPAN 02-APR-2011 09:49:28 37.12 144.13 4.7 25.0 OFF EAST COAST OF HONSHU, JAPAN 02-APR-2011 09:05:12 36.97 140.40 4.5 25.6 NEAR EAST COAST OF HONSHU, JAPAN 02-APR-2011 07:55:53 36.20 139.90 4.8 50.3 EASTERN HONSHU, JAPAN 02-APR-2011 05:51:25 40.68 143.79 4.7 19.3 OFF EAST COAST OF HONSHU, JAPAN 02-APR-2011 05:33:04 39.43 140.98 4.8 52.4 EASTERN HONSHU, JAPAN 02-APR-2011 05:08:04 36.41 141.03 4.7 51.0 NEAR EAST COAST OF HONSHU, JAPAN 02-APR-2011 05:00:55 36.09 143.36 4.5 33.6 OFF EAST COAST OF HONSHU, JAPAN 02-APR-2011 04:08:10 38.83 141.99 5.1 61.2 NEAR EAST COAST OF HONSHU, JAPAN 01-APR-2011 19:59:52 38.94 141.86 4.8 71.4 NEAR EAST COAST OF HONSHU, JAPAN 01-APR-2011 17:03:46 40.36 143.18 5.5 20.5 OFF EAST COAST OF HONSHU, JAPAN 01-APR-2011 14:44:36 36.21 141.67 5.5 33.9 NEAR EAST COAST OF HONSHU, JAPAN 01-APR-2011 13:02:09 38.08 144.69 4.5 18.1 OFF EAST COAST OF HONSHU, JAPAN 01-APR-2011 12:15:12 36.80 140.61 4.9 25.9 NEAR EAST COAST OF HONSHU, JAPAN 01-APR-2011 11:57:54 39.35 141.98 5.9 38.1 EASTERN HONSHU, JAPAN 01-APR-2011 10:49:50 40.31 140.22 5.0 49.9 EASTERN HONSHU, JAPAN 01-APR-2011 09:57:37 37.06 143.35 4.8 37.2 OFF EAST COAST OF HONSHU, JAPAN 01-APR-2011 09:48:52 36.98 143.37 4.8 37.5 OFF EAST COAST OF HONSHU, JAPAN 01-APR-2011 06:04:35 34.96 141.50 4.8 44.6 OFF EAST COAST OF HONSHU, JAPAN 01-APR-2011 03:23:20 37.63 143.33 4.9 36.7 OFF EAST COAST OF HONSHU, JAPAN www.iris.edu...


With all that shaking to those structures it's comparable to a box of cereal or a bag of chips "some settling may occur". But the "House of Wax" look it's starting to take on HAS to be from the intense heat from something still cooking in that pile of noodles.
edit on 7-4-2011 by Nucleardoom because: Gave proper credit to zorgon for quote



posted on Apr, 7 2011 @ 03:00 AM
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Originally posted by OuttaHere
For your reading pleasure:

Kyodo News


The firm and the government's Nuclear and Industrial Safety Agency said they believe chances are slim that another hydrogen explosion will occur immediately or that high volumes of radioactive substances will be emitted following the nitrogen injection operation.


There's that word again: "immediately".

It won't occur immediately, it might occur in a day or two.

Gotta learn to read between those lines...

[edit]Also I noticed they said chances are "slim" that a hydrogen explosion will occur immediately. Which is essentially admitting that there is a slim chance of one happening at any moment.[/edit]

edit on 7-4-2011 by OuttaHere because: I noticed more evasiveness to comment upon...


That's funny that you added that edit because I literally just had a 20 minute debate with my friend about whether the word "chances" or the word "immediate" was they keyword. She said chances, I said immediate. We finally agreed that chances was the, "cover their butt" statement and "immediately" was the word they used to let us know that there was going to be one, just not right away.



posted on Apr, 7 2011 @ 03:02 AM
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I could see his lead lined tinfoil hat under that suit.
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posted on Apr, 7 2011 @ 03:13 AM
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Originally posted by SDoradus
Clearly we are witnessing one of the greatest disasters of modern times

Latest Fairwinds video report.

Yes Virginia. It's even worse than Chernobyl.
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Thank god for Arnie. That someone of his stature is telling the truth in such a clear and concise way is encouraging and I've come to really rely on his assessments. The Areva report he cities should be shared with the public and what a brave stand Fairwinds is taking within the industry.



posted on Apr, 7 2011 @ 03:16 AM
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The website says UTC

www.weatheronline.co.uk...



posted on Apr, 7 2011 @ 03:25 AM
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Chernobyl radioactive exclusion zone map superimposed over map of Japan:



Just something to think about...
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posted on Apr, 7 2011 @ 03:41 AM
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"TEPCO says the No.3 reactor at the Fukushima plant was powered with uranium-plutonium mixed-oxide fuel. But the company says that it cannot identify which reactor released the plutonium, because plutonium is produced at other reactors using uranium fuel"

i thought # 3 was the ONLY reactor using plutonium?



posted on Apr, 7 2011 @ 03:43 AM
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Beyond the exclusion zone - which is the area where people cannot live - there is a much larger area where agriculture or farming is banned, but people still do live. Radioactive materials concentrate in plants and animals, even if levels are "relatively low" in terms of what you would otherwise take in by breathing and just existing.

My understanding is that this area is larger than the entirety of Japan - I can dig up references to this if anyone is interested.



posted on Apr, 7 2011 @ 03:43 AM
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nitey nite all...



posted on Apr, 7 2011 @ 03:48 AM
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"TEPCO says it plans to continue the injection for about 6 days and will also consider taking similar measures at the No. 2 and No. 3 reactors"

they're implying # 2 & 3 containment vessels are totally intact & useable for such purposes? how could they get close enough to those 2 reactor vessels to make such an accurate assessment?
..or am i just having a blonde moment?

once again, thanks to everyone for their time & input


oops nighty night

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posted on Apr, 7 2011 @ 03:49 AM
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The other thing to note is that there is a large area far to the northeast of "ground zero" for Chernobyl which is included in the exclusion zone. Due to the weather patterns that existed during the period of time where there were extreme emissions of radioactive particles into the atmosphere, there was heavy fallout over there. If the winds were taking the fallout to the southwest, Tokyo would have fallen into this zone.



posted on Apr, 7 2011 @ 03:49 AM
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Originally posted by Silverlok
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well it may be why they are tampering the web cam. After they left out the nightlight on the 5th(US daytime) enhancing for anything became extremely difficult because the signal to noise ratio went thru the roof ( in short too damn "gritty" to tell heads from tails ), but being a fellow undaunted by lack of intelligence ,experience, knowledge, or skill I took a stab at milking a stone and to my amazement got this:




I am not going to say HOW just yet , but with only two filters and NO transformations I got this highly geometrically edged image to actually pop out of the 3-5-11 night image and the 3-6-11 night image . IT IS EXACTLY THE SAME IN BOTH IMAGES FROM TWO DIFFERENT NIGHTS:




it JUST HAPPENS TO BE RIGHT OVER THE #2 reactor:




Now the 2 of the images came from here, but one I already had , so what you have ( in my non-image expert opinion ) is someone coloring over certain spots in the web cam image, meaning it's now being filtered or outright faked ,


edit on 6-4-2011 by Silverlok because: link


Hi

The spot is on reactor #4, see my post on page 488:

My original post

This is the best I can do as far as location of the spot (I improved the resolution by averaging):



The animated gif shows (1) complex before (March 12th); (2) after (April); (3) nightspot projected onto (2).

Maybe the triangulists among us can see if this position is consistent with the light coming from the red or white crane.

Mendel



posted on Apr, 7 2011 @ 03:51 AM
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Originally posted by ikonoklast
Watching what's going on in Japan is kind of like being in a serious car accident and experiencing time slowing down. Your face is heading towards the windshield. The car is careening off the road toward a big tree. You know the gas line and gas tank just ruptured and metal is sparking. You fight desperately for control, while all the while you have this weird almost out-of-body separation of consciousness as if it was all happening to someone else.

Every night I go to bed wondering if Japan will still "be there" in the morning. I want it to be OK, but yet there's also this strange fascination watching doom unfold inexorably before your eyes in slow motion. And all the while you know what's going to happen when your face hits the windshield, the car hits the tree, and the sparks hit the gas. And you know there really isn't much you can do to stop it.

So very sad...



Very good.

I'm not an accomplished author but I'd liken the Fukishima disaster to the following car crash analogy.

You've hit the oil and lost control, you've seen the tree and have collided with it.

"The crunch of metal and glass tinkling all around you whilst you merge with the vehicle. Pierced in several places you remain stationary and aware of your mangled body.

Seconds, minutes, hours pass by. You know something is going to happen but what and when?"

In other words it's bad, but could get worse or stay the same!



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