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Japan declares 'nuclear emergency' after quake

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posted on Apr, 5 2011 @ 03:08 PM
reply to post by Silverlok

Since the workers have already been on site/Fukushima, for about 3 weeks, based on their quotes in article below, a good many of them are likely, already dead...sad, so unnecessary.

Shame on you Tepco. I hope your name goes down in history with the likes of Hitler. You have eternally shamed a nation.

‘Fukushima 50′ will die within weeks
Friday, April 01, 2011 2:20:36 PM by Aishwarya Bhatt ( 1 comment )

Tokyo, April 1 (THAINDIAN NEWS) The 300 brave workers who stood when everyone else fled from the damaged Fukushima plant says they expect to die within weeks due to lethal doses of radiation. The workers are popularly called the Fukushima 50 in Japan because they work in shifts of 50. They are seen as heroes in Japan due to the fact that they are risking their lives to save the whole of the country.

More at : ‘Fukushima 50′ will die within weeks


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posted on Apr, 5 2011 @ 03:09 PM

Originally posted by DancedWithWolves
There are initial reports suggesting this nuclear reaction cannot be stopped according to TEPCO's assessment and that they told the Japanese government that it was time to leave the plants. The Government said no. If this is true, then we are indeed watching a dog and pony show of efforts and the death of the Fukushima 50 (read 500 to 600 workers on rotation) is a certainty.

Beyond that, it may be time for our best and brightest to figure out what happens when this all leaks out - and I don't mean the information, but rather the radiation. What are people facing? Yes, I know we don't have disclosure yet on what all (MOX fuel) is stored, processed, used, hidden at this plant. But with just the givens of probably six nuclear reactors going poof in one way or another...what is ahead for the world's inhabitants - walkers and swimmers?

People don't need radiation level numbers - those aren't understood by the general population or even folks following this story to some degree unless they are tied to casualty numbers. People need pictures and maps of where this is heading and a plan to track the path through crowd-sourcing that takes the regulators out of the picture.

This information is quite disturbing. Looking for more confirmation from ATS members.

The Japanese newspaper Mainichi Shimbun stated that Tepco told the Japanese government already last Monday that securing the Fukushima Plant would probably not be possible and it would be best to let the workers leave the facility. According to the paper, Premier Naoto Kan responded saying that the latter was not an option and thus in effect signed the Fukushima 50′s death certificates. The paper says the information is very reliable and comes from a high ranking Tepco official.

TEPCO violates worker's rights

TOKYO – News has come to light that the Japanese power company Tepco may have been careless with its employees.

German journalist Robert Hetkämper stated that for the past several years Tepco has been using homeless, un-educated, under-aged and migrant workers at their Fukushima plant. Hetkämper says that doctors have confirmed his findings and told the reporter that Tepco referred to its employees as ‘throw-away-staff’.

According to Hetkämper, once the doctors determined that employees had been exposed to too much radiation, the workers would simply be fired and new ones would be hired to take their place.

Tepco denies the allegation despite having a shady track record of integrity and honesty.

Furthermore, 33 safety violations were detected just days before the massive earthquake struck the plant.

According to experts who headed the investigation the plant lacked emergency power generators, pumps and other parts of the cooling system that proved faulty after the Tsunami destroyed the plant causing overheating and radioactive steam to be released into the air.

edit on 5-4-2011 by DancedWithWolves because: oops

Ooops - posted this in the wrong thread first. Here it to work. Will check in later.

Sure hope you don't work at TEPCO.

posted on Apr, 5 2011 @ 03:09 PM
There seems to also be a fainter light off to the left.

Credit to zorgon for this animated gif overlay of the night time and daytime cams so you can get an idea of where this second light is...


posted on Apr, 5 2011 @ 03:13 PM

Originally posted by zorgon

Originally posted by xxcatcatcatxx
This has gotten beyond ridiculous, WHEN are they going to tell the truth.

They did last night... dropped a bomb on us....

More like a dirty bomb.

posted on Apr, 5 2011 @ 03:20 PM

Originally posted by monica86
I just connected.
Wondering if you had seen this one......

rradiation monitor at the troubled Fukushima Daiichi nuclear power plant says workers there are exposed to immeasurable levels of radiation. The monitor told NHK that no one can enter the plant's No. 1 through 3 reactor buildings because radiation levels are so high that monitoring devices have been rendered useless. He said even levels outside the buildings exceed 100 millisieverts in some places.

...and then there is this other paragraph which is puzzling to say the least..

the monitor said he takes measurements as soon as he finds water, because he can't determine whether it's contaminated just by looking at it. He said he's very worried about the safety of workers there.

surely not even TEPCO would have ever even contemplated they could determine levels of radiation in the water just by looking at it......
and yet, someone working with this guy (his bosses???) must have suggested it...otherwise the man would not be saying

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Well, at least they gave him something to measure it with.

They could have just told him to "stick his toe in".

posted on Apr, 5 2011 @ 03:21 PM
reply to post by Anmarie96

Thanks, that is a .cgi file. I had to print screen to save it. Here is it is about 20 seconds ago.

posted on Apr, 5 2011 @ 03:25 PM
Here is a great source of info on the current radiation event that is updated many times a day. Worth checking out:

posted on Apr, 5 2011 @ 03:32 PM

Originally posted by TheLastStand
reply to post by Vitchilo

Again? WTF? They need to be forcibly occupied and someone more competent put in charge of this disaster.

I don't think anyone actually WANTS to occupy that island anymore.

I can't believe they aren't getting everyone off that rock already.

posted on Apr, 5 2011 @ 03:32 PM

Originally posted by getreadyalready
I've been popping in and out of this thread, it is so fast moving and educational.

I have a question.

Couldn't they have constructed a bulkhead wall around the entire plant by now? If they could build a wall around the entire site, then they could flood it with sea water.

I think they are attacking this problem too directly. Why not look at a global short term solution first, buy some time, and then look at a more direct approach?

They could construct a bulkhead/seawall at a safe distance from the reactors, and then pump seawater into the bulkhead until the entire area was flooded with seawater. It would provide much more cooling than just haphazardly spraying and pumping water into a leaky container. It might take a couple of months, but it would be a more complete solution for the short-term. Then they could look at layers of entombment, or explosives or reaction inhibitors.

Then they would have ten quadrillion tons of radiated water they don't know what to do with.
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posted on Apr, 5 2011 @ 03:33 PM
reply to post by Procharmo

They (TEPCO) only give us 1 image per hour, from 5 am to 7 pm. So the next one (6 am) will be released in around 26 minutes from now. I would not be surprised if they have more images than 1 per hour (and from more than one location), but we would need the help of someone (cough the "anonymous" team cough) to get our hands on those.

By the way, to save a .cgi image, when you go to save it, you don't need to save it out as a screen shot. Just right-click to "save as" like usual and add .jpg to the end of the file name and it'll save as a jpeg.

Alternatively, you can go here and just save them straight off and they'll save as jpegs automatically. (Be sure to click on the thumbnail imgae they show to display it full sized before saving. Otherwise it will only save the thumbnail sized image...

EDIT: BTW people, I think that light source is just a normal spotlight down by the "trench" right by the sea, near the inlet gates for one of the reactors, as that's where they claim to have this problematic leak. Makes sense that they'd like to keep a watch on it. Even a remotely-controlled camera setup could be used if they have a good light source.

I also think that by going on and on about this leak they are cleverly deflecting a lot of attention away from the main problem -- namely WTH is going on with those four damaged reactors? (And with reactor 6 and possibly also 5?)


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posted on Apr, 5 2011 @ 03:36 PM
Here are some patent plans from Hitachi/GE which apply to reactors 1 and 2 and explains why 3 is reversed with respect to the spent fuel pool.


Not sure if it's a repost.

posted on Apr, 5 2011 @ 03:37 PM

Originally posted by TheLastStand

Originally posted by zorgon
One has to ask if it is this high how the Fukushima 50 can still be alive at this point

I don't, some of them are dead men already. Being a member of the fukushima 50 is like being one of those extras on star trek, there for a few episodes but replaced with new, fresh expendable victims to order to their death. No wonder they are keeping a tight lid on it otherwise people would get to see the room where they are putting the bodies to hide them. Guess we know why barely anybody is around working in the high res and satellite photos.
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Red shirt...from the inside out.


posted on Apr, 5 2011 @ 03:38 PM
reply to post by JustMike

Thanks Mike. I'm learning all the time.

posted on Apr, 5 2011 @ 03:43 PM
reply to post by Procharmo

Hi all been catching up on the thread,,,
I just got a couple things nawing at me...
Maybe the light is to throw us off track?
How certain are you that that plant is for sure sitting on Bed rock.
What is the composition of the bedrock, soil in that area, sandstone? granite? basalt? Packed dirt?
I see alot of reclaimed land evidence all along the coast.
Have we seen any large bolders left over to be used for landscaping?
Aon another note the folks in my town are all talking about the up coming farmes market!!!
I had to leave town before I opened my mouth and the cops got called.
Nothing in the parper at all not even the editorials.

posted on Apr, 5 2011 @ 03:43 PM

Originally posted by rbrtj
reply to post by zorgon

big maybe... and a hopefull one..maybe it is a generator with a light?
slap me for being an optomist...
A homing beacon of sort for the off ships to use ?


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posted on Apr, 5 2011 @ 03:51 PM
I so want to believe Pu-239 is not dangerous and all the weapons testing proves that it shouldn't be of any concern. But........


On August 23, 1994, a plutonium worker at the Los Alamos National Laboratory Chemistry and Metallurgy Research Facility accidentally injured herself while removing plutonium oxides from small samples of plutonium metal with a jeweler's file. She punctured the glove-box glove and the backside of her left thumb with the file. A radiological control technician performed several wholebody surveys of the worker with negative results and then escorted her to the occupational health medical facility for assessment and treatment of the puncture wound. The wound count indicated 8.58 nanocuries of plutonium-239 inside the wound. After non-intrusive decontamination methods were unsuccessful, a physician performed three excisions reducing the contamination to 0.46 nanocuries. There was no contamination to the worker's skin nor any spread of contamination outside the glove-box. (ORPS Report ALO-LA-LANL-CMR-1994-0022)

The plutonium worker was wearing a laboratory coat, booties, and a pair of surgical gloves as required for this operation. After puncturing the back of her thumb, she left the work area, monitored her hands and booties, found no detectable radioactivity, and reported the accident to her supervisor. The supervisor contacted a radiological control technician who performed two whole body surveys on the worker, surveyed the work area, and found no detectable radioactivity. The worker also submitted nose swipes which resulted in no detectable radioactivity. After surgical decontamination of the puncture wound, medical personnel sutured and bandaged the worker's thumb and dosimetry personnel issued a special bioassay kit to the worker.

Facility managers critiqued the event and determined that the current method of preparing small plutonium metal samples by removing the metal oxides with a small jeweler's file is too hazardous to be used for this application. Alternate methods, such as using sample holders or contained mechanical cleaning, are being considered.

Based on review of the ORPS data base, it appears that contaminated puncture wounds occur infrequently at DOE facilities. Following are two examples of similar occurrences.

So just a small cut and a spec of Pu-239 dust and they want to hack a pound of flesh out of you!!!!

On October 5, 1992, a nuclear chemist cleaning up contaminated glassware in a glove-box in the heavy element facility at Lawrence Livermore National Laboratory punctured his glove and thumb with a curium-244 contaminated pipette. Evaluation of the decontaminated wound indicated 0.3 nanocuries residual and 41 nanocuries in the excised tissue. (ORPS Report SAN--LLNL-LLNL-1992-0090)

On December 9,1993, a worker disassembling wooden boxes in a glove-box in Building 707 at Rocky Flats punctured his hand on the box nails. The wound was contaminated to a level of 21,000 disintegrations per minute. After surgical decontamination, the final wound count was 5,500 disintegrations per minute. (ORPS Report RFO--EGGR-PUFAB-1993-0194)

Although contaminated puncture wounds are not common at DOE facilities, such wounds can present a serious hazard to the people involved, requiring surgical excision, medical treatment, and monitoring. Most such accidents can be avoided through thorough job preplanning, including careful task analysis, provision of appropriate tooling and protective devices, awareness of the work environment, and attention to detail.

How can we not be concerned.

posted on Apr, 5 2011 @ 03:57 PM

Originally posted by Michelle129th
There seems to also be a fainter light off to the left.

Credit to zorgon for this animated gif overlay of the night time and daytime cams so you can get an idea of where this second light is...


When I magnified this on my computer, the main light has a smaller light just to the bottom right around 5 o clock position? I wonder if this is another light or a reflection of some sort? Can't screen grab it though.

posted on Apr, 5 2011 @ 04:05 PM

Originally posted by Procharmo
reply to post by Anmarie96

Thanks, that is a .cgi file. I had to print screen to save it. Here is it is about 20 seconds ago.

To reply to the various posts about the night spots: if you sum up all 19:00h night images of the Fukushima webcam you get something like this:

with indicated the date of the incidental spots, tonight's spot in red. As you see tonight's spot is very close to the spot of April 2nd. Indeed far away from the reactors. Maybe there is some night activity near the water, so I was thinking headlights of a car.

This is my daytime overlay:

What I find still intriguing is the dimmer spot that Michelle also noted which is on the top left side of the reactor 4 south side. Here is a zoomed in updated montage of the spot the last 24 nights:

As far as I'm concerned it can be:

1. An electric light connected to some of the cranes that are positioned approximately there. But why is it so variable, fuzzy and blue/green?

2. Cerenkov light from some source. But it's high up raector 4 on the wrong side of the spend fuel pool.

3. Light emitted from ionized water vapor/steam/air coming up from the spend fuel pool. Emission light from ionized hydrogen (in water) or nitrogen (in air) is blueish green.

Anyone prefers one over the other?


posted on Apr, 5 2011 @ 04:12 PM
reply to post by rbrtj

Hi, I think on Google maps you can see a substantial drop in the ground level behind the plant indicating it may have been built on a higher level. Not sure if it was bed rock or reclaimed land. Looks like a kind of stone/concrete retaining wall.


posted on Apr, 5 2011 @ 04:18 PM
The latest web-cam shot:

shows a definite fire where the crane was.
Makes one wonder just what was it doing.

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