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Japan declares 'nuclear emergency' after quake

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posted on Mar, 23 2011 @ 04:55 PM
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Yes I'm puzzeled there too. How come they can pump sea water in to the system, if theres no electricity, no working backup system and no direct connection to the vessel itself? May be Redneck can lend us a hand here....
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posted on Mar, 23 2011 @ 04:57 PM
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I did find a blog post today that I thought was interesting, but because I could not read the original source I did not post it.

Well here it is for what it's worth.
(bolding mine)


Haruki Madarame, chairman of the Nuclear Safety Committee [link is in Japanese; their last update on their English site update was in February] which advises the Japanese government on the safety regulations for the nuclear power industry in Japan, spoke for the first time on March 23 evening since the earthquake that triggered the nuclear accident at Fukushima I Nuclear Power Plant.

Asked about the damage to the Reactors at Fukushima I Plant, the chairman said, "(After the hydrogen explosion), the fuel rods in the Reactor No.1 are assumed to have melted to a significant degree. Compared to the Reactors No.2 and 3, the situation in the Reactor No.1 is the most severe." The temperature and the pressure of the reactor core continue to rise abnormally, and the situation is getting very dangerous. He disclosed "We are considering releasing the valve to let the steam out of the Reactor Pressure Vessel (RPV) in order to prevent the destruction [of the RPV]."


Source



posted on Mar, 23 2011 @ 05:00 PM
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Thanks for that stabilized copy... looking at it now.


Latest Fukushima Mox Fueled Nuclear Power Plant Japan Meltdown After 9.0 Earthquake and Tsunami

(The pretty is from an ad at the end
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posted on Mar, 23 2011 @ 05:16 PM
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You're right; none of that water is going into the reactor vessel. I think they mean the reactor building.

I would be amazed if anyone has seen the vessel itself... not to mention worried...

TheRedneck



posted on Mar, 23 2011 @ 05:24 PM
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Originally posted by Regenstorm
HERE IS AN INTERESTING MODEL OF HOW THE RADIATION HAS SPREAD SINCE MARCH 12.
I don't know if it has been posted before, it's dated March 19.

The source is the IRSN, an institute that monitors nuclear security in France.
www.irsn.fr...

Question sbout this model: Why doesn't the radiation get more intensive in the area of the plant?
Hoax?


Because it is measuring Radon not Radiation. Notice the map is in bq/m3. It is a measure of Radon particulate.



posted on Mar, 23 2011 @ 05:24 PM
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Okay now that we have proven that ATS is a crack breaking news team (with underpaid reporters
) what we need now is our own super satellite that can take images of license plates




posted on Mar, 23 2011 @ 05:25 PM
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I'm also guessing when the 3rd reactor blew up, it blew up completely together with the core, vessel, spent, unspent fuels as well. That explosion was huge....



posted on Mar, 23 2011 @ 05:27 PM
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I'm sorry; access to that particular service on ATS is restricted to authorized personnel.




TheRedneck



posted on Mar, 23 2011 @ 05:28 PM
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We might have some real RVs here too.(remote viewers)... Those who can, this is a good time to step forward.



posted on Mar, 23 2011 @ 05:32 PM
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Originally posted by TheRedneck
I'm sorry; access to that particular service on ATS is restricted to authorized personnel.


TheRedneck


I have my CIA lapel pin... that not good enough?



posted on Mar, 23 2011 @ 05:33 PM
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Notice the glowy rods... ok, fine... but what is THAT bit of glowy on the right side?



posted on Mar, 23 2011 @ 05:34 PM
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I'd venture that anyone with real powers like that isn't hanging out on ATS. There would be nothing they could discover here that they couldn't find by remotely viewing it, right? LOL



posted on Mar, 23 2011 @ 05:34 PM
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Originally posted by TheRedneck
You're right; none of that water is going into the reactor vessel. I think they mean the reactor building.
I would be amazed if anyone has seen the vessel itself... not to mention worried...
TheRedneck


I can totally see the media getting the RPV mixed-up with the outer containment structure, but all the industry-specific sources? (like NISA?)

According to that NISA PDF ..
  • Reactor #1:
    Current Conditions:Seawater is being injected to the core.
    (in big letters, in a box in the lower-right).
  • Reactor #2:
    Current Conditions:Seawater is being injected to the core.
    (in big letters, in a box in the lower-right).
  • Reactor #3:
    Current Conditions:Water spary to Spent Fuel Pool, and seawater is injection to the reactor core.
    (in big letters, in a box in the lower-right).
  • Reactor #4:
    Current Conditions: No fuel in the RPV. Water was evaluated to remain in the Pool (by TEPCO).
    (in big letters, in a box in the lower-right).
  • Reactor #5:
    Current Conditions: Cold shutdown at 14:30 March 20th.
    (in big letters, in a box in the upper-right).
  • Reactor #6:
    Current Conditions: Cold shutdown at 19:27 March 20th.
    (in big letters, in a box in the upper-right).


... like you weren't "worried" already?

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posted on Mar, 23 2011 @ 05:35 PM
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Does anyone have any info on this so called safe spot these workers are being evacuated to when radiation lvls are on the rise?
I have seen reports of a "bunker" on site but from what I have found seems very small.."living room size".

they are upwards of 300+ workers on site..where are they going?

And has anyone seen much of any workers that have been rotated out?

seems like they just keep adding to the crew and no one leaves...



posted on Mar, 23 2011 @ 05:36 PM
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CIA? How did you even know about this then? SECURITY!



TheRedneck



posted on Mar, 23 2011 @ 05:53 PM
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I'm starting to get really scared now. I'm serious.

I don't know about you, but I've been suffering from a little bit of depression ever since the tsunami. I think a lot of people are. But news of the neutron beams, the radioactive iodine in the water, and the high level of radiation around the plant has made me very uneasy today.

I have a feeling of impending doom, like this may be the beginning of The End.



posted on Mar, 23 2011 @ 05:54 PM
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Not sure if anyone posted about the robots thing already (mod's feel free to delete if this is a duplicate)

So I think it's good that other nations are sending and offering robotics that they think might be able to help even if they know that they are equipped to always handle the radiation but are still willing to let them try and use the machines to help. At the same time I'm a bit shocked that they turned away a set of robots specially made for nuclear accidents...why?

www.newscientist.c... om/blogs/onepercent/2011/03/more-robots-to-be-sent-in-to-t.html?DCMP=OTC-rss&nsref=online-news



On Saturday the French group INTRA (Groupe d'INTervention Robotique sur Accidents, Robotic Intervention in Accidents) was preparing to send a team to Japan on a giant Antonov transport plane. INTRA maintains a fleet of specialised robots for use in nuclear accidents. These include the six-ton ERASE which has a powerful hydraulic manipulator, and the smaller EROS for indoor operations. A radio relay robot, ERELT, allows the machines to be controlled from several kilometres away.

"Just before loading the aircraft, we received the message that Japan declared "they don't need INTRA robots in the current situation", Michel Chevallier, INTRA's Director General, told New Scientist. "Our robots are now back in our headquarters."



posted on Mar, 23 2011 @ 05:56 PM
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I have a feeling of impending doom, like this may be the beginning of The End.


Oh that started a long time ago.. This is more like the beginning of the middle of the end, (or new beginning, however you wanna look at it).

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posted on Mar, 23 2011 @ 05:57 PM
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Originally posted by windwaker
I'm starting to get really scared now. I'm serious.

I don't know about you, but I've been suffering from a little bit of depression ever since the tsunami. I think a lot of people are. But news of the neutron beams, the radioactive iodine in the water, and the high level of radiation around the plant has made me very uneasy today.

I have a feeling of impending doom, like this may be the beginning of The End.



Aw, /hug. I'm sure I have been having similar feelings. I feel very sad for the people and they're isn't anything that can be done except to evacuate them and that is becoming more and more .... unlikely. What is going to happen to all those people? If it was someone who was close to me I'd be near frantic right now to try to get them out. I wish they could just evacuate them.... for gods sake how can the world just sit by and let this happen?

Roll up some tanker ships to the beaches and start loading people on, come on! They gotta DO something!
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posted on Mar, 23 2011 @ 06:06 PM
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The rods might be hot, but they could also just be reddish in color and covered with debris from the blast or corrosion. Now the glowy spot.... might be something getting hot, but it could also be light reflections off something shiny.

Just hard to tell from that picture...

TheRedneck




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